So....why????

[Barbella]

On Tuesday, President Obama will announce his plan to increase everyone’s power bill. Or, as he puts it, “a national plan to reduce carbon pollution, prepare our country for the impacts of climate change and lead global efforts to fight it.”
If you accept the science of global warming, then you accept the fact that the president’s unilateral action on climate change will have absolutely no effect in terms of adjusting the global thermostat to a temperature Obama finds desirable. The rest of the developing world, anchored by India and China, are building carbon-burning factories, power plants and even whole new cities that will overwhelm any new rules the president may impose on Americans and our struggling economy.
Other recent events confirm the president’s isolation and his lack of advisers who will challenge his biases, but even in this extreme isolation he must know his actions will have no effect on the Earth’s climate. So why is he taking this step — especially now, when our economy is so fragile? Driving up the cost of energy will, at the very least, add stress to U.S. households and further erode U.S. manufacturing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...the-president-plans-to-raise-your-power-bill/

 

[Barbella]

And here, of course, is the answer....

The president is ideologically motivated when it comes to global warming. He believes American lifestyles are unnecessarily wasteful and that we should temper our ambitions and adopt a lifestyle more to his liking. Essentially, it would suit him if we all lived in a college town and rode a bicycle.

Also, I believe part of the president’s motivation for his pointless act is punitive. Obama wants to punish America for its wasteful past. But of course, the rules don’t apply to him and his family. A life of large homes, private jets, big cars and cash payments from the oil and gas industry await him in his private life. Just ask former vice president Al Gore. Voters notice that Democrats have a blind spot to the hypocrisy that surrounds global-warming politics.

 

[GordonGecko]

And here, of course, is the answer....

The president is ideologically motivated when it comes to global warming.

Who'd you vote for for President last November, Barb?



By Ros Krasny
MANCHESTER, New Hampshire | Fri Jun 3, 2011 12:52pm EDT
MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (Reuters) - Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney broke with Republican orthodoxy on Friday by saying he believes that humans are responsible, at least to some extent, for climate change.

"I believe the world is getting warmer, and I believe that humans have contributed to that," he told a crowd of about 200 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire.
"It's important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may be significant contributors."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/03/us-campaign-romney-idUSTRE7525GM20110603

 

[Barbella]

Who'd you vote for for President last November, Barb?



By Ros Krasny
MANCHESTER, New Hampshire | Fri Jun 3, 2011 12:52pm EDT
MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (Reuters) - Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney broke with Republican orthodoxy on Friday by saying he believes that humans are responsible, at least to some extent, for climate change.

"I believe the world is getting warmer, and I believe that humans have contributed to that," he told a crowd of about 200 at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire.
"It's important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may be significant contributors."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/03/us-campaign-romney-idUSTRE7525GM20110603

 

[jammer]

GG, Barbie is now not only writing a TP, but providing her own answer to her own questions, so she does not need us to reply. Her self populated circle jerk doesn't need any help.

 

[Barbella]

Is Romney President? Damn....does he KNOW?????

 

[Barbella]

GG, Barbie is now not only writing a TP, but providing her own answer to her own questions, so she does not need us to reply. Her self populated circle jerk doesn't need any help.

You got that right. The kind of "help" you could provide is the kind of "help" I'll NEVER need.

 

[GordonGecko]

GG, Barbie is now not only writing a TP, but providing her own answer to her own questions, so she does not need us to reply. Her self populated circle jerk doesn't need any help.

True.....plus she's attacking...her OWN vote for President last November. Given she voted for a guy who was "ideologically motivated when it came to global warming".

 

[GordonGecko]

Is Romney President? Damn....does he KNOW?????

You voted for him, didn't you?

So, tell us Barbella, why did you vote for a man for President who was "ideologically motivated when it comes to global warming"????

 

[Jen]

On Tuesday, President Obama will announce his plan to increase everyone’s power bill. Or, as he puts it, “a national plan to reduce carbon pollution, prepare our country for the impacts of climate change and lead global efforts to fight it.”
If you accept the science of global warming, then you accept the fact that the president’s unilateral action on climate change will have absolutely no effect in terms of adjusting the global thermostat to a temperature Obama finds desirable. The rest of the developing world, anchored by India and China, are building carbon-burning factories, power plants and even whole new cities that will overwhelm any new rules the president may impose on Americans and our struggling economy.
Other recent events confirm the president’s isolation and his lack of advisers who will challenge his biases, but even in this extreme isolation he must know his actions will have no effect on the Earth’s climate. So why is he taking this step — especially now, when our economy is so fragile? Driving up the cost of energy will, at the very least, add stress to U.S. households and further erode U.S. manufacturing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...the-president-plans-to-raise-your-power-bill/

He is trying to break us. How dare we live better than the people in third world countries [he believes]!! And there is no one who is able or willing to stop him. The Republicans were absolutely stupid in this last election and this is what they/ we get for our stupidity. I am angry. But there is nothing [apparently] that anyone is willing or able to do about it.

 

[marvin martian]

You voted for him, didn't you?

So did you. What's your point?

 

[GordonGecko]

He is trying to break us. How dare we live better than the people in third world countries [he believes]!! And there is no one who is able or willing to stop him. The Republicans were absolutely stupid in this last election and this is what they/ we get for our stupidity. I am angry. But there is nothing [apparently] that anyone is willing or able to do about it.

But when ROMNEY said he believed global warming was real and man-made and it was important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may be significant contributors.....he WASN'T trying to "break us"...

right?

 

[Arkady]

On Tuesday, President Obama will announce his plan to increase everyone’s power bill. Or, as he puts it, “a national plan to reduce carbon pollution, prepare our country for the impacts of climate change and lead global efforts to fight it.”
If you accept the science of global warming, then you accept the fact that the president’s unilateral action on climate change will have absolutely no effect in terms of adjusting the global thermostat to a temperature Obama finds desirable. The rest of the developing world, anchored by India and China, are building carbon-burning factories, power plants and even whole new cities that will overwhelm any new rules the president may impose on Americans and our struggling economy.
Other recent events confirm the president’s isolation and his lack of advisers who will challenge his biases, but even in this extreme isolation he must know his actions will have no effect on the Earth’s climate. So why is he taking this step — especially now, when our economy is so fragile? Driving up the cost of energy will, at the very least, add stress to U.S. households and further erode U.S. manufacturing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...the-president-plans-to-raise-your-power-bill/

You're misinformed if you think unilateral action by the US can't make a difference. The US is the second-leading emitter of greenhouse gases in the world, and far and away a bigger polluter, per capita, than China, which is the only country ahead of us on a gross basis. No other country is as well-positioned as the US to have a big unilateral impact on global warming without causing widespread suffering.

Granted, eventually a solution will need to encompass China and India. But we're talking about a serious crisis -- we can't wait until we have a 100% solution before we start implementing changes. And the technologies the US and Europe pioneer as they get their greenhouse emissions under control will make it cheaper and easier for India and China to follow suit (by, for example, driving down the costs of alternative energy sources). With the US joining Europe's efforts, this will also make it easier for the two to pressure other countries to join in, as well (eventually linking low-tariff trade access to responsible environmental stewardship).

So, the question isn't why Obama is taking this step, but why it took him so long, and why the step is so timid.

Just on a side note, I find it a continual source of amusement that right wingers call the Washington Post part of the "liberal media," when it constantly hosts right-wing propaganda of this sort.

 

[GordonGecko]

So did you. What's your point?

No, I voted for President Obama, marv. I can say that openly and publicly.

You're scared to DEATH of admitting who you voted for. Atleast Barbella's got more cojones than that.

 

[marvin martian]

No, I voted for President Obama, marv. I can say that openly and publicly.

You're scared to DEATH of admitting who you voted for. Atleast Barbella's got more cojones than that.

But you didn't, you voted for Romney and you're embarrassed to admit, for some reason.

 

[Barbella]

He is trying to break us. How dare we live better than the people in third world countries [he believes]!! And there is no one who is able or willing to stop him. The Republicans were absolutely stupid in this last election and this is what they/ we get for our stupidity. I am angry. But there is nothing [apparently] that anyone is willing or able to do about it.

Yep. He'll "humble" us. We just simply had it "too good".

By "we" I mean "we peons" of course. The "elites" such as the Obamas will have it better than ever.....at our expense.

 

[Barbella]

Just on a side note, I find it a continual source of amusement that right wingers call the Washington Post part of the "liberal media," when it constantly hosts right-wing propaganda of this sort.[/quote]

And I question why YOU call it "right-wing propaganda"......

 

[GordonGecko]

But you didn't, you voted for Romney and you're embarrassed to admit, for some reason.

Marv, I voted for President Obama.

I've said it twice now. Yet you WILL NOT say who you voted for last November.

Whatcha scared of???

 

[GordonGecko]

Yep. He'll "humble" us. We just simply had it "too good".

By "we" I mean "we peons" of course. The "elites" such as the Obamas will have it better than ever.....at our expense.

And again....you voted for Mitt Romney...the "man of the little guy"???

ROFLMAO

 

[marvin martian]

Marv, I voted for President Obama.

I've said it twice now.

But you're lying, both times. I KNOW you voted for Romney, why can't you fess up?