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Speaking Dummy Natively

Arkady

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As I posted previously, and as has been more recently confirmed by others, Trump is in the midst of a serious cognitive decline, similar to what we saw late in the Reagan presidency, when he was on his way to an Alzheimer's diagnosis:

http://neurocritic.blogspot.com/2017/02/using-discourse-analysis-to-assess.html
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trum...0-years-scarborough-returns-with-a-vengeance/

Trump reminds me very much of my grandmother, in the last couple years before she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. She leaned heavily on vague filler words and favored repetitive uses of a small collection of simple adjectives. That was enough to communicate her overall feelings on a subject (e.g., you'd never fail to grasp whether she liked or disliked a particular politician), but not the reasons for her feelings.

As with Trump, my grandmother's decline was most noticeable not in terms of the absolute level of discourse (even some smart people have trouble ordering their thoughts into language on the fly), but rather in terms of the decline over time. My grandmother's active vocabulary shrunk dramatically, and the complexity of the thoughts she would attempt to communicate fell to the level you'd expect of a young child, after a lifetime of being a relatively sophisticated speaker. Take a look at an earlier post of mine to see an example of what I'm talking about when it comes to Trump:

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/whats-wrong-with-trump.92274/

As I pointed out, in a short passage of just 360 words, Trump stumbled through the same vague expression of emotion eight separate times with only slight variations:

I don't like the term
I never liked the term
I don't need terms like that
I don't like the term
I don't like the term
I never liked it
I never liked the expression
But I never liked that term​

When you go back to transcripts of Trump interviews in the 1980s and 1990s, you just don't see that kind of simple-minded repetition of emotional phrases. At this point, I don't think there's serious doubt that Trump's mind has declined alarmingly. But what I'd like to add to the discussion is the observation that this may actually have helped him, politically.

Back in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s Trump's mind was still clicking on all cylinders. I'm not saying he was particularly smart, but he was in good working condition. To extend the metaphor, he was a well-tuned 140 horsepower four cylinder -- nothing exciting, but it'll get where it's headed. At the time he had political ambitions, but they never caught fire with the public. Then his brain declined, he enrolled as a Republican, and his political efforts finally started paying off. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think the mental decline gave him the ability to speak "dummy" natively, and that's an invaluable tool for reaching a certain portion of the electorate.

Trump's voters were mostly older, rural, and under-educated. It's easy to alienate such people if you make them feel bad about themselves by talking over their heads, or putting demands on their intellects that they're not accustomed to accommodating. For the kind of voter who has spent his whole life in a small town surrounded almost entirely by people who share his narrow background, with little exposure to the wider world nor any advanced education, it's easy to fall into a deep mental rut. People in such ruts are going to resent being expected to climb out of them to follow a political argument. But late-stage Trump makes no such demands on listeners. He doesn't speak in complicated arguments drawing on knowledge and expecting logical reasoning. He speaks in simple cliches and vague and endlessly repeated emotional outbursts.

Take the text I linked to above as an example. If you didn't get what he was trying to communicate (that he doesn't like the term "American exceptionalism"), the first time he told you, don't worry. He'd go on to tell you the same thing seven more times in the next few seconds, with minor variations. So, feel free to remain half asleep on the couch -- you'll get all there is to get out of his words without any effort.

It's late-stage Trump who finally took off, politically, because he's the one who could communicate on the level of tens of millions of under-educated Americans with aging brains. Donald Trump in his 40s, 50s, or early 60s would have alienated them even with his little 140 hp brain, but Donald Trump in his 70s is speaking their language.
 
As I posted previously, and as has been more recently confirmed by others, Trump is in the midst of a serious cognitive decline, similar to what we saw late in the Reagan presidency, when he was on his way to an Alzheimer's diagnosis:

http://neurocritic.blogspot.com/2017/02/using-discourse-analysis-to-assess.html
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trum...0-years-scarborough-returns-with-a-vengeance/

Trump reminds me very much of my grandmother, in the last couple years before she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. She leaned heavily on vague filler words and favored repetitive uses of a small collection of simple adjectives. That was enough to communicate her overall feelings on a subject (e.g., you'd never fail to grasp whether she liked or disliked a particular politician), but not the reasons for her feelings.

As with Trump, my grandmother's decline was most noticeable not in terms of the absolute level of discourse (even some smart people have trouble ordering their thoughts into language on the fly), but rather in terms of the decline over time. My grandmother's active vocabulary shrunk dramatically, and the complexity of the thoughts she would attempt to communicate fell to the level you'd expect of a young child, after a lifetime of being a relatively sophisticated speaker. Take a look at an earlier post of mine to see an example of what I'm talking about when it comes to Trump:

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/whats-wrong-with-trump.92274/

As I pointed out, in a short passage of just 360 words, Trump stumbled through the same vague expression of emotion eight separate times with only slight variations:

I don't like the term
I never liked the term
I don't need terms like that
I don't like the term
I don't like the term
I never liked it
I never liked the expression
But I never liked that term​

When you go back to transcripts of Trump interviews in the 1980s and 1990s, you just don't see that kind of simple-minded repetition of emotional phrases. At this point, I don't think there's serious doubt that Trump's mind has declined alarmingly. But what I'd like to add to the discussion is the observation that this may actually have helped him, politically.

Back in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s Trump's mind was still clicking on all cylinders. I'm not saying he was particularly smart, but he was in good working condition. To extend the metaphor, he was a well-tuned 140 horsepower four cylinder -- nothing exciting, but it'll get where it's headed. At the time he had political ambitions, but they never caught fire with the public. Then his brain declined, he enrolled as a Republican, and his political efforts finally started paying off. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think the mental decline gave him the ability to speak "dummy" natively, and that's an invaluable tool for reaching a certain portion of the electorate.

Trump's voters were mostly older, rural, and under-educated. It's easy to alienate such people if you make them feel bad about themselves by talking over their heads, or putting demands on their intellects that they're not accustomed to accommodating. For the kind of voter who has spent his whole life in a small town surrounded almost entirely by people who share his narrow background, with little exposure to the wider world nor any advanced education, it's easy to fall into a deep mental rut. People in such ruts are going to resent being expected to climb out of them to follow a political argument. But late-stage Trump makes no such demands on listeners. He doesn't speak in complicated arguments drawing on knowledge and expecting logical reasoning. He speaks in simple cliches and vague and endlessly repeated emotional outbursts.

Take the text I linked to above as an example. If you didn't get what he was trying to communicate (that he doesn't like the term "American exceptionalism"), the first time he told you, don't worry. He'd go on to tell you the same thing seven more times in the next few seconds, with minor variations. So, feel free to remain half asleep on the couch -- you'll get all there is to get out of his words without any effort.

It's late-stage Trump who finally took off, politically, because he's the one who could communicate on the level of tens of millions of under-educated Americans with aging brains. Donald Trump in his 40s, 50s, or early 60s would have alienated them even with his little 140 hp brain, but Donald Trump in his 70s is speaking their language.

Absolutely pathetic.
 
Another example of Trump's decline, imo, is his failure to identify well known phrases as if they hadn't existed for years. Has Trump actually never heard the phrase "priming the pump"? Did he truly believe he just invented the phrase? That's downright weird.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...onomics-to-the-economist-hilarity-ensues.html


He also seems inappropriate to me. To wit: A comparison with Obama from their visits to Yad Vashem...

Trump:

"It is a great honor to be here with all of my friends — so amazing and will never forget!"

Obama:

I am grateful to Yad Vashem and all of those responsible for this remarkable institution. At a time of great peril and promise, war and strife, we are blessed to have such a powerful reminder of man's potential for great evil, but also our capacity to rise up from tragedy and remake our world. Let our children come here, and know this history, so that they can add their voices to proclaim "never again." And may we remember those who perished, not only as victims, but also as individuals who hoped and loved and dreamed like us, and who have become symbols of the human spirit.


http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a9915177/trump-obama-yad-vashem-notes/
 
You could be on to something... a big change in Trump's mental state/vocabulary that hardly happens overnight. There could also be another explanation. He takes Propecia(Finasteride), according to his doctor... known to have possible side effects.

https://www.politicaljack.com/threa...ciated-with-mental-confusion-impotence.99988/
Should the Leader of the Free World Be Taking Propecia?
http://www.mensjournal.com/health-f...ium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange_article
Interesting. With a 70 year old, it's going to be tough to distinguish between drug-induced decline and natural decline.
 
Absolutely pathetic.
Yes, he certainly is. But the point I'm making is that being pathetic is probably part of his appeal with certain kinds of people. His pathetic inability to arrange a complicated thought into words makes him more appealing, not less so, to the "easy listening" crowd. He's the "soft jazz" of political speakers.
 
Another example of Trump's decline, imo, is his failure to identify well known phrases as if they hadn't existed for years. Has Trump actually never heard the phrase "priming the pump"? Did he truly believe he just invented the phrase? That's downright weird.

Yes, that was a bizarre one. It's such a commonplace term, when discussing economics, and has been used so prominently since the days of the New Deal, that either he was only pretending he thought he came up with it, in order to convince the very dumbest of the nation's imbeciles that he's something special, or something has gone seriously wrong with his brain.

To wit: A comparison with Obama from their visits to Yad Vashem

Yet, to my point, that could actually help him. I'm sure if you leafed through the guest book of almost any such attraction, you'd find a whole lot more entries that look like Trump's than Obama's. Most people are simple-minded. Trump speaks their language.
 
Yes, he certainly is. But the point I'm making is that being pathetic is probably part of his appeal with certain kinds of people. His pathetic inability to arrange a complicated thought into words makes him more appealing, not less so, to the "easy listening" crowd. He's the "soft jazz" of political speakers.

As opposed to you who is the "See Spot Run" of posters on this board. Trump won so he must be destroyed, can't beat him at the ballot box soooooo undermine his Presidency as much as possible are the fascist left's marching orders. Hey at least you got a guy in the White House because he can't shut up to often make it easy for you and your moon bat brethren.

However you need new tricks. Question his cognitive ability.......old Democratic trick of 08 when every other post was about whether or not McCain had Alzheimer's......apparently Fascist can't learn new tricks.......

Good luck anyway.
 
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As opposed to you who is the "See Spot Run" of posters on this board. Trump won so he must be destroyed, can't beat him at the ballot box soooooo undermine his Presidency as much as possible are the fascist left's marching orders. Hey at least you got a guy in the White House because he can't shut up to often make it easy for you and your moon bat brethren.

However you need new tricks. Question his cognitive ability.......old Democratic trick of 08 when every other post was about whether or not McCain had Alzheimer's......apparently Fascist can't learn new tricks.......

Good luck anyway.
Here's a simple experiment you can perform yourself, if you don't believe me. Pull a transcript of some extensive extemporaneous comments by Trump from the 1990s or early 2000s and today -- something other than where he's just reading someone else's words off a teleprompter. For example, you could pull interview transcripts. Then plug them into a text analyzer. I did this with several transcripts and the results were consistent -- there was a multi-grade-level decline in reading level, and an increase in the use of crutch words and phrases. You don't have to take my word for it. The raw evidence is out there. Do your own analysis. And keep in mind, this isn't a "Democratic trick." Those who have noted the decline include Joe Scarborough, a Republican and a former right-wing member of Congress.

Of course, that's uncomfortable territory for those who never much liked Trump back when he spoke in complete sentences, now that those people find themselves liking the blithering imbecile Trump has become. That says a lot about the state of their own minds, and they're not eager to face it.
 
Here's a simple experiment you can perform yourself, if you don't believe me. Pull a transcript of some extensive extemporaneous comments by Trump from the 1990s or early 2000s and today -- something other than where he's just reading someone else's words off a teleprompter. For example, you could pull interview transcripts. Then plug them into a text analyzer. I did this with several transcripts and the results were consistent -- there was a multi-grade-level decline in reading level, and an increase in the use of crutch words and phrases. You don't have to take my word for it. The raw evidence is out there. Do your own analysis. And keep in mind, this isn't a "Democratic trick." Those who have noted the decline include Joe Scarborough, a Republican and a former right-wing member of Congress.

Of course, that's uncomfortable territory for those who never much liked Trump back when he spoke in complete sentences, now that those people find themselves liking the blithering imbecile Trump has become. That says a lot about the state of their own minds, and they're not eager to face it.


Going forward you and yours need to learn a simple lesson.... "If everyone is Hitler nobody is Hitler"..........understand?

You guys said all the same things about Trump that you said about Bush, Mitt, about McCain.........people stopped paying attention and Trump (I never thought it was possible) won going away with the Electoral College.......

and what have you learned......nothing........just Q up the chorus of the same boring predictable Dem talking points from the same dead play book............ the same ones that once famously declared "Mitt Romney if elected will put black people back in chains" ..........

Yawn.... you need better talking points.
 
QUOTE="Arkady, post: 1872648, member: 9327"]Here's a simple experiment you can perform yourself, if you don't believe me. Pull a transcript of some extensive extemporaneous comments by Trump from the 1990s or early 2000s and today -- something other than where he's just reading someone else's words off a teleprompter. For example, you could pull interview transcripts. Then plug them into a text analyzer. I did this with several transcripts and the results were consistent -- there was a multi-grade-level decline in reading level, and an increase in the use of crutch words and phrases. You don't have to take my word for it. The raw evidence is out there. Do your own analysis. And keep in mind, this isn't a "Democratic trick." Those who have noted the decline include Joe Scarborough, a Republican and a former right-wing member of Congress.

Of course, that's uncomfortable territory for those who never much liked Trump back when he spoke in complete sentences, now that those people find themselves liking the blithering imbecile Trump has become. That says a lot about the state of their own minds, and they're not eager to face it.[/QUOTE]

Lololol!
 
So, not only did he beat the entire republican apparatus..then the democratic apparatus...
he did so while in a state of progressive cognitive decline?


shit, how incapable is our body politic..?
 
Going forward you and yours need to learn a simple lesson.... "If everyone is Hitler nobody is Hitler"..........understand?

Try to stay on topic. This isn't accusing Trump of being Hitler. It's saying that his mental faculties have declined considerably. Do the analysis I suggested yourself, if you don't believe me. You don't need to take my word on it, because the evidence is freely available.
 
Try to stay on topic. This isn't accusing Trump of being Hitler. It's saying that his mental faculties have declined considerably. Do the analysis I suggested yourself, if you don't believe me. You don't need to take my word on it, because the evidence is freely available.

Point missed spectacularly.
 
A little over 60 million voters are idiots. My point is that an idiot essentially has "home field advantage" when pitching to that crowd.

He convinced his base the govt was the enemy -- they bought into it. What a patriot, he is... :rolleyes:
 
As opposed to you who is the "See Spot Run" of posters on this board. Trump won so he must be destroyed, can't beat him at the ballot box soooooo undermine his Presidency as much as possible are the fascist left's marching orders. Hey at least you got a guy in the White House because he can't shut up to often make it easy for you and your moon bat brethren.

However you need new tricks. Question his cognitive ability.......old Democratic trick of 08 when every other post was about whether or not McCain had Alzheimer's......apparently Fascist can't learn new tricks.......

Good luck anyway.

He's under orders.
 
As I posted previously, and as has been more recently confirmed by others, Trump is in the midst of a serious cognitive decline, similar to what we saw late in the Reagan presidency, when he was on his way to an Alzheimer's diagnosis:

http://neurocritic.blogspot.com/2017/02/using-discourse-analysis-to-assess.html
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trum...0-years-scarborough-returns-with-a-vengeance/

Trump reminds me very much of my grandmother, in the last couple years before she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. She leaned heavily on vague filler words and favored repetitive uses of a small collection of simple adjectives. That was enough to communicate her overall feelings on a subject (e.g., you'd never fail to grasp whether she liked or disliked a particular politician), but not the reasons for her feelings.

As with Trump, my grandmother's decline was most noticeable not in terms of the absolute level of discourse (even some smart people have trouble ordering their thoughts into language on the fly), but rather in terms of the decline over time. My grandmother's active vocabulary shrunk dramatically, and the complexity of the thoughts she would attempt to communicate fell to the level you'd expect of a young child, after a lifetime of being a relatively sophisticated speaker. Take a look at an earlier post of mine to see an example of what I'm talking about when it comes to Trump:

https://www.politicaljack.com/threads/whats-wrong-with-trump.92274/

As I pointed out, in a short passage of just 360 words, Trump stumbled through the same vague expression of emotion eight separate times with only slight variations:

I don't like the term
I never liked the term
I don't need terms like that
I don't like the term
I don't like the term
I never liked it
I never liked the expression
But I never liked that term​

When you go back to transcripts of Trump interviews in the 1980s and 1990s, you just don't see that kind of simple-minded repetition of emotional phrases. At this point, I don't think there's serious doubt that Trump's mind has declined alarmingly. But what I'd like to add to the discussion is the observation that this may actually have helped him, politically.

Back in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s Trump's mind was still clicking on all cylinders. I'm not saying he was particularly smart, but he was in good working condition. To extend the metaphor, he was a well-tuned 140 horsepower four cylinder -- nothing exciting, but it'll get where it's headed. At the time he had political ambitions, but they never caught fire with the public. Then his brain declined, he enrolled as a Republican, and his political efforts finally started paying off. I don't think that's a coincidence. I think the mental decline gave him the ability to speak "dummy" natively, and that's an invaluable tool for reaching a certain portion of the electorate.

Trump's voters were mostly older, rural, and under-educated. It's easy to alienate such people if you make them feel bad about themselves by talking over their heads, or putting demands on their intellects that they're not accustomed to accommodating. For the kind of voter who has spent his whole life in a small town surrounded almost entirely by people who share his narrow background, with little exposure to the wider world nor any advanced education, it's easy to fall into a deep mental rut. People in such ruts are going to resent being expected to climb out of them to follow a political argument. But late-stage Trump makes no such demands on listeners. He doesn't speak in complicated arguments drawing on knowledge and expecting logical reasoning. He speaks in simple cliches and vague and endlessly repeated emotional outbursts.

Take the text I linked to above as an example. If you didn't get what he was trying to communicate (that he doesn't like the term "American exceptionalism"), the first time he told you, don't worry. He'd go on to tell you the same thing seven more times in the next few seconds, with minor variations. So, feel free to remain half asleep on the couch -- you'll get all there is to get out of his words without any effort.

It's late-stage Trump who finally took off, politically, because he's the one who could communicate on the level of tens of millions of under-educated Americans with aging brains. Donald Trump in his 40s, 50s, or early 60s would have alienated them even with his little 140 hp brain, but Donald Trump in his 70s is speaking their language.
Interesting that Reagan and now according to you Trump as cognitively impaired persons are more viable leaders than fully cognitively operative Democrats. ha ha

It seems values are better than regressive liberal brains. ha ha ha
 
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