Syria: WH needs to get its message straight

[Jen]

In an opinion piece, Dana Perino says this:

In my opinion, Mr. Obama is presenting his case incorrectly. He has the order and the emphasis wrong when laying out his arguments in favor of a strike. He’s been putting too much stress on the limited point, that the intervention will be limited, targeted and over before you know it.

Instead, he should first argue that a strike is necessary. Then he should tell us why he thinks we will succeed. And only then should he get to the point that a strike is not going to become a long-term or costly endeavor.

The more the president keeps jumping to, and spending too much time on, the limited aspect of the strike, the more he’s taking for granted that he’s already won the argument on the first two points. And clearly he has not.

Obama's work is cut out for him to sell a war to a war-weary country. But at least Dana Perino is trying to help him out a bit here. He does seem rather stuck on promising that the strike will be limited and quick. Most of us know what apparently Obama doesn't know (and of course he wouldn't lie to us)...........that once that strike has been done, any of many things could happen to keep us in a war longer than he has promised that we will be in this one.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013...-it-will-never/?intcmp=HPBucket#ixzz2eFT1vvb6

 

[UnleashedInTheEast]

I think the problem here, as usual, is Obama's ego. While he has many loyal followers, most people are not like PJ libs. Most people expect him to make his case. Obama, like his followers, thinks he is supreme and can skip the steps a rational personal person like Ms. Perino suggests.

 

[Jen]

I think the problem here, as usual, is Obama's ego. While he has many loyal followers, most people are not like PJ libs. Most people expect him to make his case. Obama, like his followers, thinks he is supreme and can skip the steps a rational personal person like Ms. Perino suggests.

President Obama thinks he can schmooze through and use his obvious charisma to get whatever he wants, but he is in a situation now where that is simply not going to be enough. Winging it as he usually does won't work.

 

[Queen Titania]

In an opinion piece, Dana Perino says this:



Obama's work is cut out for him to sell a war to a war-weary country. But at least Dana Perino is trying to help him out a bit here. He does seem rather stuck on promising that the strike will be limited and quick. Most of us know what apparently Obama doesn't know (and of course he wouldn't lie to us)...........that once that strike has been done, any of many things could happen to keep us in a war longer than he has promised that we will be in this one.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013...-it-will-never/?intcmp=HPBucket#ixzz2eFT1vvb6

You say you are War weary Jen ....................... how many bombs have been dropped on the USA? How many children droned in their beds after a tiny lifetime of terror? How many women raped men shot ........................Nah you are not War weary, might be weary but ..................

 

[Jen]

You say you are War weary Jen ....................... how many bombs have been dropped on the USA? How many children droned in their beds after a tiny lifetime of terror? How many women raped men shot ........................Nah you are not War weary, might be weary but ..................

I didn't say anything about myself, Queen. I said we are a "war-weary country" We have been in war -- as a country -- since 2001. I didn't know that "war-weary country" could be that easily misunderstood.

 

[Queen Titania]

I didn't say anything about myself, Queen. I said we are a "war-weary country" We have been in war -- as a country -- since 2001. I didn't know that "war-weary country" could be that easily misunderstood.

But you are not, you don't know War ............... .

 

[UnleashedInTheEast]

You say you are War weary Jen ....................... how many bombs have been dropped on the USA? How many children droned in their beds after a tiny lifetime of terror? How many women raped men shot ........................Nah you are not War weary, might be weary but ..................

I can only speak for myself, but George W. Bush was the last straw for me. I supported Iraq and Afghanistan, but had no idea we would drag it out for ten years. In my opinion, these little skirmishes are bullshit. If we are going to use our military it should be for an imminent national threat. It should be swift, severe, fast- and effective enough that the next considering [Unwelcome language removed] with us pisses his pants at the thought.

Syria? Whackos killing whackos- [Unwelcome language removed] 'em. But no,obama and his cree have investments to look after.

 

[Queen Titania]

I can only speak for myself, but George W. Bush was the last straw for me. I supported Iraq and Afghanistan, but had no idea we would drag it out for ten years. In my opinion, these little skirmishes are bullshit. If we are going to use our military it should be for an imminent national threat. It should be swift, severe, fast- and effective enough that the next considering [Unwelcome language removed] with us pisses his pants at the thought.

Syria? Whackos killing whackos- **** 'em. But no,obama and his cree have investments to look after.

Large Armies are not built for protection, they are built for attack.

 

[Jen]

But you are not, you don't know War ............... .

Never said I was/ did.

 

[Queen Titania]

Never said I was/ did.

As a country Jen !!!!

 

[UnleashedInTheEast]

Large Armies are not built for protection, they are built for attack.

Indeed, and we should scale ours back. Enough to kick the crap out of those who might [Unwelcome language removed] with us. Bring the vast majority of troops home. South Korea? Sorry, time to either suck it up and stand on their own or start paying up for our services.

 

[Jen]

As a country Jen !!!!

See ya later, Queeny.

 

[Queen Titania]

Indeed, and we should scale ours back. Enough to kick the crap out of those who might **** with us. Bring the vast majority of troops home. South Korea? Sorry, time to either suck it up and stand on their own or start paying up for our services.

Obama and co have it down to a tee now, they just drop bombs on innocents and and infrastructures, unleash wild fundi Jihadis on the peoples, let ;em sort themselves out as worst they can and mean while Land, Oil, Gas, Gold Copper, rare minerals grab grab grab and pay mercinaries to guard instilations and so ons ..... prob of dead US soldiers over money in the pocket cool ...............

 

[UnleashedInTheEast]

Obama and co have it down to a tee now, they just drop bombs on innocents and and infrastructures, unleash wild fundi Jihadis on the peoples, let ;em sort themselves out as worst they can and mean while Land, Oil, Gas, Gold Copper, rare minerals grab grab grab and pay mercinaries to guard instilations and so ons ..... prob of dead US soldiers over money in the pocket cool ...............

Honestly... Even though it is Obama and I despise him, I wish I could argue with you.

Sadly, he's not even good at grabbing the loot, given how much he has conceded easily- acquired assets to China. Perhaps them being communists is creating a brotherly consideration thingy.

Or maybe it is just more exciting with lots of bombs and killing.

 

[Queen Titania]

Honestly... Even though it is Obama and I despise him, I wish I could argue with you.

Sadly, he's not even good at grabbing the loot, given how much he has conceded easily- acquired assets to China. Perhaps them being communists is creating a brotherly consideration thingy.

Or maybe it is just more exciting with lots of bombs and killing.

Oh God Empire used to be so much simpler now it is so insidious and so secretive an twisted and yet once you have it sussed you know which side of the them and us you are on