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greenridgeman said:
jesus corrected the real problem.

This world is temporary, just a test.

Now, if you believe you are just a mass of protoplasm that rots, jesus is not of much use to you.

But, to answer your question, no, the problems of this world would exist without me, jesus came to save souls of individuals, not to make the world a utopia.
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great answer, greenie!!!!!
 
fxstc said:
Lets see how it works against the Pats this time around.
I am picking the Pats by 2 touchdowns.
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Bet. It's probaby a lead-pipe cinch. So were the steelers. I don't bet on football but if I was to bet it would be with my billfold in mind not my personal feelings.
 
Doc said:
great answer, greenie!!!!!
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Hmm then why do you not pray to have your thoughts and faith posted on here? why do you engage in positive empiricism in 99%+ of your life if life actually is a "test" and not "real"? Why not just give into the "test"?
 
There's a little thing called "free will"...without which, there would be no point to faith and nothing to be saved from, since everyone would be like slaves or automatons. Jesus wouldn't interfere with our free will any more than God would.

Evil has existed from Day One and it will continue to exist until the end of the last day.
 
doesnt seem obvious to me. why would he choose that moment to thank him out of the 24 hours in a day?
 
Because he's thankful for his gifts at that particular moment. Why all the speculation? Who cares what he does? At least he's thankful for something. There's nothing worse than someone who stands for nothing. We all have dif opinions and dif faiths. We respect the crazy ass Muslims letting them bow to Mecca in prison why freak about a Christian thanking the lord anytime he feels the need? If you ask me he's a good example to the youth in this country. Don't be afraid to stand for what you stand for no matter the criticism you may face. Follow ur heart.
 
Tebow Rox!!! He has strength and conviction in the lord. If you have ever paid attention the bible
isn't exactly a horrible moral guide. So u may not believe but do u believe in kindness, integrity, courage, honesty? What's wrong with him supporting the word?? Nothing, he could be setting an example for devil worshipping to our youth. Be thankful at least the core issues he's promoting are healthy for society. There can't be too much kindness in this world.
 
nuttin wrong in supportin those things. but only phony showboats feel the need to do it during the game where everyone watching paid to see football.
 
gabriel said:
nuttin wrong in supportin those things. but only phony showboats feel the need to do it during the game where everyone watching paid to see football.
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Sorry Gab. Promoting the word is a christians job and never denying your lord is paramount. It's his beliefs and he's in a position to promote that so I disagree it's phony I say it's more like he's promoting his lord and as a christian that is a wonderful way to show your love of god. To deny Jesus is to deny me. Whatever. It's unfair of your to criticize when perhaps you don't understand the main goal of Christians and he's in a unique position to promote his lord. Just cuz you may not get it doesn't make it fake or perverted. In fact history show that heathens are more admired these days then god-fearing Christians. So, why showboat supporting Jesus when you can showboat heathenism of which so many Americans luv to luv? Also what's the difference of doing a jig when you make a good play and bowing? Ya there paying but there's always a certain amount of showboating it's part of the game.
 
i dont give a crap what he or you might think his job is. at that moment his job is to provide the entertainment the fans have paid for! if they want to hear his gobbledygook, they can go to a tent revival. they didnt, they went to a football game!
 
Originally Posted by greenridgeman
jesus corrected the real problem.

This world is temporary, just a test.

Now, if you believe you are just a mass of protoplasm that rots, jesus is not of much use to you.

But, to answer your question, no, the problems of this world would exist without me, jesus came to save souls of individuals, not to make the world a utopia.


Doc said:
great answer, greenie!!!!!
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You may like that answer, but it is diametrically opposed to what the Bible teaches about Jesus. Returning the world to a state of Utopia is precisely the mission of the Christian Messiah. He may be a couple of thousand years late in returning, but that's no reason to doubt His promise, is it?

Seems that many of Christianity's biggest supporters these days know hardly anything about Christianity. Go figure...

Guess it's easier to follow a religion if you just make it all up as you go along to suit your specific tastes.
 
I just had to post here to say I agree with Gramps and also see Gabriel's point of view.

I had thought why would God care about a football game and still feel that way but at that moment in overtime with seconds left, I think he felt, it might be a good time there was a man who was not embarrassed to show him some respect and to let people know that.

I was brought up Catholic and since feel betrayed and left the church but it was coming slowly for a long time. I believe in God more than ever though and now that the moment is past, I still side with Gramps and see how Gabriels's point of view might be correct.

How do we know, we can only feel what was is in our hearts, I'll tell you that moment for me was a wonderful thing.
 
Lapcat said:
There's a little thing called "free will"...without which, there would be no point to faith and nothing to be saved from, since everyone would be like slaves or automatons. Jesus wouldn't interfere with our free will any more than God would.

Evil has existed from Day One and it will continue to exist until the end of the last day.
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Interesting.
Jesus did a lot of interfering when he walked this earth.
Why would he not "interfere" from a spiritual prospective?
 
degsme said:
Hmm then why do you not pray to have your thoughts and faith posted on here? why do you engage in positive empiricism in 99%+ of your life if life actually is a "test" and not "real"? Why not just give into the "test"?
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Umm, well, first off, I will speak about my religion in the religion section, although, for the most part, I find myself arguing with the Religious Ignorance of Liberals, who, while being "NON-BELIEVERS," by some wierd quirk of fate, are more knowledgeable about CHRISTIAN FAITH than actual CHRISTIANS are. (Although, admitedly, Liberals tend to honestly think that THEY know everything about everything....)

The rest of your tripe, is nothing I have ever even put forth.

IF that is what you have taken from your discussions with me, well, alls I can say is "you got it wrong..."
 
NightSwimmer said:
Originally Posted by greenridgeman
jesus corrected the real problem.

This world is temporary, just a test.

Now, if you believe you are just a mass of protoplasm that rots, jesus is not of much use to you.

But, to answer your question, no, the problems of this world would exist without me, jesus came to save souls of individuals, not to make the world a utopia.




You may like that answer, but it is diametrically opposed to what the Bible teaches about Jesus. Returning the world to a state of Utopia is precisely the mission of the Christian Messiah. He may be a couple of thousand years late in returning, but that's no reason to doubt His promise, is it?

Seems that many of Christianity's biggest supporters these days know hardly anything about Christianity. Go figure...

Guess it's easier to follow a religion if you just make it all up as you go along to suit your specific tastes.
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Thanks for making my case.

(You do not know all that you THINK you know about OTHER PEOPLE'S FAITH.)
 
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