The 2nd Amendment is Outdated

[ObamacareForever]

Your piddly assault rifle isn't going to a stop a tyrannical government when they can just drone strike you from the government of their base.
And if you tried you would a terrorist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/28/supreme-court-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Yeah, and freedom is over rated, amirite?

 

[reason10]

Your piddly assault rifle isn't going to a stop a tyrannical government when they can just drone strike you from the government of their base.
And if you tried you would a terrorist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/28/supreme-court-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

Maybe the First Amendment is outdated. Maybe your piddly right to FREE SPEECH is creating riots.
Maybe the Fifth Amendment is outdated. After all, criminals kill. Why give them due process and just let them out to kill again.
Maybe the Fourth Amendment is outdated. After all, the drugs or the gun are IN THAT HOUSE. Taking the time to get a warrant means they can be disposed of. Kicking down that door would save lives.
Maybe the Sixth Amendment is outdated. Maybe a public trial gets in the way of putting away the scumbags who prey on society. Why should criminals be allowed to call witnesses, since everyone they know is a liar.

We can do this all day. The AR 15 is not an assault rifle, simply because there is NO SUCH THING as an assault rifle. The AR 15 is not a military rifle. It only LOOKS military.

If you don't LIKE the way it looks, you have the FREEDOM not to buy one. But you're NOT entitled to forcing your idiotic fears on those who want to own one. It's none of your business.

And remember, the person who commits a crime with a firearm IS BREAKING THE LAW.

There are no such things as law abiding criminals. The states with the strictest gun control laws in America have the highest rate of gun related murders.
You've LOST this dumbass argument.

 

[Dawg]

Your piddly assault rifle isn't going to a stop a tyrannical government when they can just drone strike you from the government of their base.
And if you tried you would a terrorist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/28/supreme-court-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

No such a thing as an Assault Rifle for citizens

War On Drugs way out dated and Drugs kill more than guns and traffic accidents put together

Drug Overdoses Are Killing More Americans Than Guns, Traffic Accidents

Over 100-thousand people died in the U.S. from drug overdoses in the 12 months between June 2020 to May 2021, according to the latest data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That figure is more than COVID, and more than twice the number of those killed by guns and traffic...

www.voanews.com

Two Latino women caught this week with 500,000 Fentanyl pills

You can always move to Cambodia to the condo you posted a picture of you bought!

 

[God of War]

Your piddly assault rifle isn't going to a stop a tyrannical government when they can just drone strike you from the government of their base.
And if you tried you would a terrorist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/28/supreme-court-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

1) The kids in the military might push their unarmed parents and family around if ordered to. Quite a different thing to shoot at them because they are armed.

2) Drones have to land and take off. We know where they land and take off from.

 

[Dawg]

Yet, 2nd Amendment saves lives

Woman with Pistol Stops Man Firing at Graduation Party Crowd with AR-15

An alleged attacker with an AR-15 was shot dead Wednesday night by a woman who was carrying a pistol for self-defense.

www.breitbart.com

 

[EatTheRich]

Your piddly assault rifle isn't going to a stop a tyrannical government when they can just drone strike you from the government of their base.
And if you tried you would a terrorist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/28/supreme-court-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

It’s not gonna stop the entire armed forces. But it might hold back a rogue cop or right-wing vigilante from committing some atrocity. Besides, the 2A protects not just so-called assault rifles, but also less-scary-looking rifles, pistols, knives, brass knuckles, shotguns, rocket launchers, grenades, etc. It’s never been about an either-or of “guns make us free or we are disarmed slaves” … it’s always been that the better-armed the oppressed classes, the more they have been able to maintain their freedom in the constant push-pull struggle against the exploiting classes.

Agreed that the 2A needs to be updated for the changing times. Suggested replacement text (draft): “No person, aged 18 years or older, residing within the United States, shall be required to surrender firearms or weapons capable of causing comparable harm, unless such sentence be imposed directly by a jury of that person’s peers upon conviction of a statutory felony by due process in a lawfully constituted tribunal; nor shall any such person be penalized for the possession or lawful use of weapons of this sort. No amendment to this Constitution, or other law, purporting to repeal or modify this article shall have force of law.”

 

[God of War]

It’s not gonna stop the entire armed forces. But it might hold back a rogue cop or right-wing vigilante from committing some atrocity. Besides, the 2A protects not just so-called assault rifles, but also less-scary-looking rifles, pistols, knives, brass knuckles, shotguns, rocket launchers, grenades, etc. It’s never been about an either-or of “guns make us free or we are disarmed slaves” … it’s always been that the better-armed the oppressed classes, the more they have been able to maintain their freedom in the constant push-pull struggle against the exploiting classes.

Agreed that the 2A needs to be updated for the changing times. Suggested replacement text (draft): “No person, aged 18 years or older, residing within the United States, shall be required to surrender firearms or weapons capable of causing comparable harm, unless such sentence be imposed directly by a jury of that person’s peers upon conviction of a statutory felony by due process in a lawfully constituted tribunal; nor shall any such person be penalized for the possession or lawful use of weapons of this sort. No amendment to this Constitution, or other law, purporting to repeal or modify this article shall have force of law.”

Of course it would stop the armed forces. It would be a function of scale. Big enough and the armed forces become moot. It is a function of how Christian the armed forces are. It is why the leftist government has purged the ranks and encourages moral deviancy. So that it would require more to accomplish what it would take to submit the military to the will of the people from whom they are drawn. Who feeds and sustains them as the men and women that they are.

 

[EatTheRich]

Of course it would stop the armed forces. It would be a function of scale. Big enough and the armed forces become moot. It is a function of how Christian the armed forces are. It is why the leftist government has purged the ranks and encourages moral deviancy. So that it would a require more to accomplish what it would take to submit the military to the will of the people from whom they are drawn. Who feeds and sustains them as the men and women that they are.

It’s a function of how much special privilege the members of the military have, and how pushed to the wall the working-class communities most of them come from are. The best and brightest have always sided with the people, whether that meant fragging officers in Vietnam or disarming police in revolutionary Petrograd. It’s a matter of maintaining their connection with the people, which sometimes means winning skirmishes against reactionary units, and giving them hope for success.

Uh … “the leftist government has purged the ranks and encourages moral deviancy”? The capitalist government, especially the right-wing elements, encourage moral deviancy a la Abu Ghraib because it maintains their power. The spontaneous resistance of soldiers to that is one of the scariest things imaginable for that government. And while left-wing Christianity has often inspired soldiers to side with the oppressed against naked unjust power, there is also the strain of right-wing Christianity that has ever given its hand to the cause of oppression, as well as the many soldiers who aren’t Christian and without whose support no military unit could function effectively for good or evil.

 

[God of War]

It’s a function of how much special privilege the members of the military have, and how pushed to the wall the working-class communities most of them come from are. The best and brightest have always sided with the people, whether that meant fragging officers in Vietnam or disarming police in revolutionary Petrograd. It’s a matter of maintaining their connection with the people, which sometimes means winning skirmishes against reactionary units, and giving them hope for success.

Uh … “the leftist government has purged the ranks and encourages moral deviancy”? The capitalist government, especially the right-wing elements, encourage moral deviancy a la Abu Ghraib because it maintains their power. The spontaneous resistance of soldiers to that is one of the scariest things imaginable for that government. And while left-wing Christianity has often inspired soldiers to side with the oppressed against naked unjust power, there is also the strain of right-wing Christianity that has ever given its hand to the cause of oppression, as well as the many soldiers who aren’t Christian and without whose support no military unit could function effectively for good or evil.

We agree on nothing for the most part but we believe in the 2nd Amendment.

Do you believe freedom of speech is absolute?

P.S. As you know I believe Bush is a war criminal who even today should be held responsible for the torture done at his behest and urging.

 

[protectionist]

The 2nd Amendment has never been more relevant and necessary, than it is today.

 

[Boca]

Your piddly assault rifle isn't going to a stop a tyrannical government when they can just drone strike you from the government of their base.
And if you tried you would a terrorist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/28/supreme-court-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

It’s time to repeal the Second Amendment?’”

Then what happens?

 

[reason10]

We agree on nothing for the most part but we believe in the 2nd Amendment.

Do you believe freedom of speech is absolute?

P.S. As you know I believe Bush is a war criminal who even today should be held responsible for the torture done at his behest and urging.

The Trump faction definitely faults Bush43 for even going into that war in Iraq. And Trump represented an original way to deal with foreign policy. Pull American troops back, charge countries for protection, and negotiate with the animals to let up on the shooting.

It worked so well that there was peace in the Middle East. It took a stolen election for wars to kick back up to their former glory.

 

[RickWA]

Your piddly assault rifle isn't going to a stop a tyrannical government when they can just drone strike you from the government of their base.
And if you tried you would a terrorist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/28/supreme-court-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

Let’s face it…”the Constitution is just a piece of paper”… its provisions and terms mere fads. Simple, fleeting snapshots in time. What is true and just is that contemporary governance be able to implement the policies and regulations it chooses free of any archaic charter. No foundational parameters are needed.

Great point.

 

[ObamacareForever]

Let’s face it…”the Constitution is just a piece of paper”… its provisions and terms mere fads. Simple, fleeting snapshots in time. What is true and just is that contemporary governance be able to implement the policies and regulations it chooses free of any archaic charter. No foundational parameters are needed.

Great point.

It's not like the 2nd Amendment is the only outdated portion.
The 3/5 clause being a prime example.

Also the 3rd amendment is also not needed.

 

[God of War]

It's not like the 2nd Amendment is the only outdated portion.
The 3/5 clause being a prime example.

I don't know... they both seem to still have some merit when those 3/5ths keep doing violent acts and are let out with impunity.

Also the 3rd amendment is also not needed.

Wait till you have a government required Alexa in every room of your home that blows up if you wrong think. ha ha

 

[God of War]

Let’s face it…”the Constitution is just a piece of paper”… its provisions and terms mere fads. Simple, fleeting snapshots in time. What is true and just is that contemporary governance be able to implement the policies and regulations it chooses free of any archaic charter. No foundational parameters are needed.

Great point.

They certainly act that way. They put rule of man above the rule of law at their every convenience. Disturbing dystopian stuff really. Reminds me of lynch mobs.

 

[RickWA]

It's not like the 2nd Amendment is the only outdated portion.
The 3/5 clause being a prime example.

Also the 3rd amendment is also not needed.

I’ve seen the light. Torch it all, and execute all governance to day-to-day majority rule.

 

[Zam-Zam]

Your piddly assault rifle isn't going to a stop a tyrannical government when they can just drone strike you from the government of their base.
And if you tried you would a terrorist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/28/supreme-court-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/

We're keeping the Bill of Rights.

How you , or the WAPo feel about that is your/their business, but it stays. For the rest of your life, and your kids' lives, and you kids' kids' lives.

That's what I predict.