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The Day of the Lord

Days

Commentator
If you read the prophets of the Old Testament, you keep seeing this same vision, predicting these events, throughout the entire 1000 years of writings. The prophets all differed according to their times and the concerns of those times, but they agreed on one item; the Day of the Lord was coming!

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Genesis 1:5

So what was that? The evening is the sun going down, the evening watch was 6-9pm, then you have the night watch 9-12pm, then you have the midnight watch 12pm-3am, then you have the morning watch 3-6am, the morning is when the sun comes up.

The day of the Lord begins with the setting sun. This was the end of the Age of Law, which Jesus ended when he nailed the ordinances to the cross. All through the Age of Law, the prophets kept the testimony of the Lord shining bright; the presence of the Lord was upon the prophets and concealed in the holy of holies, hiding in the Ark of the testament; finally these two were combined with Jesus, who was both the embodiment of God and the messiah; the anointed presence of his power. The Jews in Judah should have recognized Jesus from the scriptures, he was a continuation of the testimony of the Law, fulfilling it to the letter and shining it to the Gentiles. Jesus was the sunset of that day and age. But his appearing was also the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

Then came the night; the darkness; the Church Age. Just as the prophets testified against the priests and kings of the old testament, Jesus kept the faithful of the flock upon the watch tower of the church and they testified against the beast in Rome; that most the world recognized as his church, but Jesus called it Babylon and a whore and antiChrist. Before the dawn of the reformation, Jesus gave us a morning star, and his ministry led to the dawn of the new day...

John Wycliffe (1330-1384), called the Morning Star of the Reformation, spent most of his life teaching at Oxford University and was recognized by John of Guant (The Duke of Lancaster) as extraordinarily gifted in theology. He translated the Latin Vulgate Bible into English and placed it in the hands of the people. (Link)

Okay, so see this vision the same way the prophets delivered it to us; the entire Church Age (which runs from Jesus 1st coming to Jesus 2nd coming) is the time of his anointing; the personal work of his ministry; that anointing was the work of the prophets all through the days of the law under Moses, but now in these last days, it is all the work of the resurrected messiah; it is his anointing resting on the entire body of Christ; hence, the entire Age is all one work; this is his time; this is the day of his anointing; the Day of the Lord.
 
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Days

Commentator
So, let's look back at the construction of the Day of the Lord as revealed by the Apocalypse of John, and let's align the time periods with the evening watch, night watch, midnight watch and morning watch... I'll put the watches in red to the right of the scrolls/letters.

Okay, so see the dispensation with me. A letter is written, which means an ambassador (angel) is sent out, the performance of the letter builds the church in that letter. In heaven there's the testimony of the holy spirit before the throne, the lamp of fire, which is the angel of the letter (the author and ambassador is the holy spirit), and there's also the church that is built up, the lampstand of testimony, which is the performance of the holy spirit in the saints. Since we are practically to the end of this prophecy/vision, we can map out the time line....

A door is opened and John is caught up into heaven, he is shown - in a vision - what will happen next on earth. Specifically, he is shown what God is going to do on earth, so he is shown the intentions of the holy spirit for the church Age. He is shown the building of the church - which is already in progress in 96 AD - followed by the Day of the Lord, the central theme of prophecy in the old testament. It is a progression, the same as a sun rising in the sky, first comes the night, then the new day, the 7 letters are the night, the seven seals are the new day.

This is pretty much how the years panned out...


first coming ........ 27-30 ............................... sunset

1st Letter ............. 30-96 ............................... evening watch (dusk)
2nd Letter ........... 96-225 ............................. night watch
3rd Letter ............ 225-600 .......................... night watch
4th Letter ............ 600-1390 ........................ midnight watch
5th Letter ............ 1390-1500 ....................... morning watch
6th Letter ............ 1500-1611 ........................ morning watch
7th Letter ............ 1611-1850 ........................ morning watch

1st Seal ................ 1850-1900 ....................... dawn
2nd Seal .............. 1900-1950 ....................... dawn
3rd Seal ............... 1950-2000 ...................... dawn
4th Seal ............... 2000-2016 ...................... dawn
5th Seal ............... 2016-2028 ...................... dawn
6th Seal ............... 2028 ............................... sunrise
7th Seal ................ 2028-2032 .................... 2nd coming

As revealed in the prophets; the Day of the Lord is the entire Church age, which is simply the evening, night, and morning; with the presence of the Lord depicted as the shining sun. Notice the 6th seal is the sign of the son of man; which is the tip of the sun rising above the horizon, while the 3 1/2 year ministry of the first coming is depicted as the setting sun and the 3 1/2 year ministry of the 2nd coming is depicted as the rising sun.
 
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Days

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What will that 2nd coming look like here.........to us?
Well, first notice that I had a razor focus on the 3 1/2 year ministry... which is just the beginning of the 2nd coming. That should look very much like the first coming; the anointing of the God head resting upon a man born in the flesh... actually two men. But don't expect the same works as the first coming; Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead and gave sight to the blind (but never made the deaf hear) - Jesus preached the good news of salvation - the first coming revealed the grace of God upon all mankind... while the 2nd coming is in judgment of mankind and reveals the anger of God upon all of man's disobedience to the grace of God. If you ask me, the 2nd coming makes no sense in terms of revealing Jesus Christ, because it is a return to old testament works. But I guess that's because the 2nd coming is a visitation upon all the flesh that has rejected the first coming. So the 2nd coming ministry looks like old testament plagues and death and blistering anger and condemnation. It is easy to see why the flesh of the nations that is following the Beast and facing this anger from God, testified by these two messiahs, learn to hate the two witnesses.

There's a double dose of plagues for the Beast, after the antiChrist kills the 2 witnesses, they resurrect and ascend to heaven, from which another 3 1/2 years of plagues are poured out upon the flesh following the Beast. Finally, after that 2nd ministry from heaven, then the saints return with Christ to physically overthrow the government of the Beast... a government already set up in Israel today. That government will be located in Jerusalem, so watch for Israel to move their capital to Jerusalem, because it will happen.
 
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Jen

Trump 2020
Well, first notice that I had a razor focus on the 3 1/2 year ministry... which is just the beginning of the 2nd coming. That should look very much like the first coming; the anointing of the God head resting upon a man born in the flesh... actually two men. But don't expect the same works as the first coming; Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead and gave sight to the blind (but never made the deaf hear) - Jesus preached the good news of salvation - the first coming revealed the grace of God upon all mankind... while the 2nd coming is in judgment of mankind and reveals the anger of God upon all of man's disobedience to the grace of God. If you ask me, the 2nd coming makes no sense in terms of revealing Jesus Christ, because it is a return to old testament works. But I guess that's because the 2nd coming is a visitation upon all the flesh that has rejected the first coming. So the 2nd coming ministry looks like old testament plagues and death and blistering anger and condemnation. It is easy to see why the flesh of the nations that is following the Beast and facing this anger from God, testified by these two messiahs, learn to hate the two witnesses.

There's a double dose of plagues for the Beast, after the antiChrist kills the 2 witnesses, they resurrect and ascend to heaven, from which another 3 1/2 years of plagues are poured out upon the flesh following the Beast. Finally after that 2nd ministry from heaven, then the saints return with Christ to physically overthrow the government of the Beast... a government already set up in Israel today. That government will be located in Jerusalem, so watch for Israel to move their capital to Jerusalem, because it will happen.
I"ll probably be dead by then.............so I'll have a safer vantage point.
 

Days

Commentator
I"ll probably be dead by then.............so I'll have a safer vantage point.
heh, If you dig deeper into the anointing, it begins in chapter 3 of Zechariah, with an early anointing upon the witness for the Son. His ministry extends from the 3rd seal on... and never really ends. Then, at the end of Zechariah chapter 4 we see the anointing of both witnesses; that's where the 3 1/2 year ministry of the 2nd coming begins. All four witnesses (2 for Jesus and 2 for Satan) are walking around on the planet right now... and have been for most of your life, so you are by no means safe!

Look at the dawn of the new day; more and more light is pouring into the heavens as the sun gets closer and closer - the anointing of the high priest upon the witness for the Son (In Zechariah chapter 3) pours more light into the dawn at that moment when the feeling goes from light in the east to light in the whole sky. In the apocalypse, there is this angel rising in the east that lights the incense altar and casts the prayers of the saints as judgment upon the earth... the early part of that ministry is as a star rising in the east, the strengthening of the dawn light. We have all been part of that ministry, and the dawn is so strong now; the whole earth is filled with the light of the returning Christ; everyone knows it is coming.
 
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Days

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heh, If you dig deeper into the anointing, it begins in chapter 3 of Zechariah, with an early anointing upon the witness for the Son. His ministry extends from the 3rd seal on... and never really ends. Then, at the end of Zechariah chapter 4 we see the anointing of both witnesses; that's where the 3 1/2 year ministry of the 2nd coming begins. All four witnesses (2 for Jesus and 2 for Satan) are walking around on the planet right now... and have been for most of your life, so you are by no means safe!

Look at the dawn of the new day; more and more light is pouring into the heavens as the sun gets closer and closer - the anointing of the high priest upon the witness for the Son (In Zechariah chapter 3) pours more light into the dawn at that moment when the feeling goes from light in the east to light in the whole sky. In the apocalypse, there is this angel rising in the east that lights the incense altar and casts the prayers of the saints as judgment upon the earth... the early part of that ministry is as a star rising in the east, the strengthening of the dawn light. We have all been part of that ministry, and the dawn is so strong now; the whole earth is filled with the light of the returning Christ; everyone knows it is coming.
So, if you stop to think about it, we have the presence of the Lord's anointing at work upon us already. That clothing of the high priesthood anointing happened Jan 1st, 1987... since that time, the heavenly priesthood of Jesus has been hard at work down here on earth, it's like an early return, minus the kingship. That's what psalm 87 was talking about when it said the most high himself would establish this current work; the manchild (baby boy) that gets produced is the direct product of this early ministry. This is the parousia of the Lord; his appearing, his presence; it is his spirit come forth from behind the veil, the daystar rising in our hearts; this is what gets unveiled.

So, outwardly, it is the dawning of a new day, but in our hearts it is an unveiling; the apocalypse of his anointing; the ministry of the high priest in the new Jerusalem, and we are the gates, the pearls, the doorway into the city. Jesus builds up 12, they each build up 12, and they become captains of a thousand... it is a dispensation, a calling to build the city, the city doesn't just appear from heaven, we have to build it; it is the ministry of his appearing. The man child is already raptured with building the new jerusalem... we are caught up in this ministry.

The mainstream religious corporations teach the rapture as if it was an event for the flesh; as if our bodies will float away or something ridiculous like that. Flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom of God, it is our spirit that is caught up to the throne in heaven; and guess what? ... we are already raptured with our ministry to the body of Christ, we are already seated in heavenly places with Christ.

So, here in the 5th seal, we see 144,000 virgins from the 12 tribes of Israel being sealed with the spirit; actually, that is simply a Christian participation in the apocalypse ministry of our Lord. The Lord is come already, in spirit, the harvest is truly great, there's a lot of work to do, some few brothers and sisters are being chosen to build this manchild through the dispensation of his appearing. Lift up your heads and be lifted up! This work is at hand, don't wait for the 7th trumpet, by then this work will be over, we are called to be raptured with the work of his coming right now. Can I get a ram's horn? Blow the warning in Zion, wake up the sleeping lions, the day of the Lord is at hand, a day of grief and sorrow, a day of cloudiness and half light, a day of trouble and trial, but a day of great expectations, so let your spirit in you rise up! The Lord is here. Be ye ready, for he is come to judge the earth and to deliver his chosen.
 
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Days

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feed back from my better half...

The military watches were posted to watch for the enemy while the main army slept. David wrote in psalms "mine eyes prevented the morning" in the morning watch; meaning he got up before the dawn, just as he might have done for a morning watch. The morning star is the planet Venus, and it will appear in the morning sky around 2 AM-ish, so you see in the 4th letter (to Thyatira) that he promises the faithful to give them the morning star; that was why I stretched the 4th letter to 1390, to be sure it included Wycliffe. The whole idea was to give the vision context; so the reader can see why it was always referred to as "the day of the Lord" ... the entire construction of the church is one big dispensation (pouring out of the spirit)... God planted this seed in Mary and this entire church Age is what it produced; it all came from the one seed; it is all one big tree of life; when Jesus was hanging on the cross, he was shown what the release of the spirit would produce; he was given a vision of the entire church it would assemble; so he knew he wasn't dying in vain.

Yes, Jesus made the deaf to hear, but what I was thinking of was the Sanhedrin, the chiefs of the priests, the council, the elders of his generation who were entrusted with keeping the flame, Solomon lit, burning on the altar (I know, the Lord lit the altar with fire from heaven but it was Solomon's prayer, eh? And it was long gone by the time Jesus came... but you get the idea) ... when Jesus said, "hear O' Israel... the Lord thy God is one Lord" he wasn't just quoting scripture, he was asking those chief priests to hear what he was preaching. But he never opened their ears, they never received his words, they rejected him and his words and they were the ones who arranged for his crucifixion. So, that's what I was thinking when I said, he never made the deaf to hear; because those were the deaf that needed to hear. There are none so deaf as those who refuse to hear...
 
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Days

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more feed back from my better half...

I explained that this was the apology (in the making) God told me to write, and she asked, "what's an apology?" And I explained, it's like a dissertation, it's a theme paper of sorts written on a Christian theme... nothing is clicking... so she asks, "What's the difference between an apology, an epistle, a letter, a gospel, or a revelation?" And I answer, "Nothing, they are all inspiration."

We all partake of the same anointing, there's no difference between the fellowship between the Apostles and any other fellowship that took place in the body of Christ. There's no difference between the Christ anointing that rested on Jesus and the Christian anointing that rests on every member of Christ. If someone says the gifts of the holy spirit are measured to each member of the Body, while the fullness of the Holy Spirit rested on Christ... how can you measure God? Can five gallons of God perform more miracles than one quart? Is the holy spirit sevenfold what it was in Jesus day? Or is the holy spirit just doing seven times as much work? Does God get tired? Does God need to rest one day of every week?

Is this post I am making right now - I am dead tired and just want to go to sleep, but God is telling me to do this first - so it is another letter to my pen pals, right? - is this any different than any letter Paul wrote that Pamphilius ended up choosing to be part of the cannon? Do you think Paul wasn't tired or hungry or cold? Was Paul more filled with the holy spirit? Or was Paul's marching orders (commission) purer? ... from a higher command? Or is all fellowship the same... is all ministry in the body, the same spirit?

I know from experience what the Lord wants me to write, I know when something is inspired, I know when I am being told what to write versus giving my own opinion on a matter; but these things are what normally come upon any member of the body that is working in the ministry. My wife and myself have never had a job that paid us for working the ministry, but we have been active ministers the whole 25 years we've been together... the point being, it is perfectly normal to be writing an apology, an epistle, a letter, a gospel, or a revelation; this is what we do, we employ the gifts given us in the body, we live in the spirit, we are empowered by the spirit, we do the works of the spirit. Christian living hasn't changed any in the past 1985 years, we are still passing on the same breath that Jesus breathed on the Apostles after his resurrection, and we still labor under the same anointing that rested upon the Apostles at Pentecost.
 
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Days

Commentator
Cherubs: Wheels, rims of eyes, and flaming swords


Cherubim are throughout the prophets, yet not really explained; the Bible acts like you know what Cherubs are all about… see, over there? Cherub. Be very afraid. Think: enforcement of God’s will; think government. Think: God is doing something, carrying out his will. When God is doing something, watch out, don’t get in front of where’s he is driving his army, don’t stand in between God and what he wants to do… “Get out of the way, Moses, I’m going to kill ‘em all, I’ll just grow another nation out of your seed” … now, that’s a very dangerous moment to speak up and oppose what God is doing. (hint: if you aren’t Moses, just stand clear).


Peter stood there, “No, no, no, don’t let them crucify you Lord” (think man, this is going to hurt something awful) … and Jesus mowed him over, “Move out of my path Satan, I’m coming through”. When you are facing the will of the Father, that’s almost never going to change, God thinks out all his actions in advance, so when it comes time to carry hidden desires out, that’s when the cherubim show up… time to stand clear.


I’m sure someone has gone looking for the cherub with the flaming sword and an entrance into Eden. Have you ever considered that the snake in the tree was just as much a cherub as the one with the flaming sword turning in every direction? This is the will of God. God had already created mankind and that species of man was “very good” … and not at all evil. Next, God creates a different species of man, and this man is both good and evil. He starts out good, then God inserts the nature of knowing both good and evil … what happened there? Was that bite from the snake the desire of God? Is the flaming sword and cherub, God’s way of saying he’s not repenting of this path for mankind? Did God repent later and flood the whole earth? Was the rainbow God’s way of saying he wouldn’t lose his temper again? And how did that work out? Isn’t the 2nd coming prophecy full to the brim with God’s anger at the nations and judgment upon the disobedient? And here we go with the cherubs again.


The Spirit of the cherubs is in their wheels. Whoa, these angels have wheels? No feet? Just wheels? If you have run with the footmen and they have tired you, what will you do in the day of horsemen? And if the days of global war and tribulation are too much for you; what are you going to do when the cherub show up? Cherub run on wheels. And they have a wheel within a wheel; I designed hoist gearing like that, that inner wheel is spinning real fast, and that outer wheel is moving nice and slow but it is not going to be stopped… when the cherub are moving, their wings are flapping, imagine four giant helicopter blades, imagine the noise, imagine the wind, imagine the heat, and that inner wheel is spinning and no doubt smoke is rising and the eyes are set on rings up high and are like laser beams of light piercing all creation headed off in every direction… God’s will is like that. So, when God says, he has thought about repenting of carrying out the plagues (in John’s apocalypse - everything was laid down first by the prophets of old) – and I have talked at length to Jesus about this – and God says he has decided he isn’t going to repent, he is going to carry it all out… look, this is no laughing matter. This vision comes right from the crystal sea throne in the clouds and there are 4 cherubs holding up God’s intentions… that’s God’s way of saying he is bound and determined to see this through. So, I asked him years ago, “1/3 of mankind dies? In one stinking plague? Isn’t that a tad rash?” … “ I mean, really! One out 3 humans on the earth dies??” And he said simply, “Day, they all are going to die, eventually, everyone who is born, dies.” I guess you might call that a heavenly perspective. After that, it’s just a matter of how you want them to go. When you get right down to it… what difference does it make? Mankind makes a big deal of death, as if it is something awful and it shouldn’t happen… but it happens anyway, sooner or later.
 

Jen

Trump 2020
So, if you stop to think about it, we have the presence of the Lord's anointing at work upon us already. That clothing of the high priesthood anointing happened Jan 1st, 1987... since that time, the heavenly priesthood of Jesus has been hard at work down here on earth, it's like an early return, minus the kingship. That's what psalm 87 was talking about when it said the most high himself would establish this current work; the manchild (baby boy) that gets produced is the direct product of this early ministry. This is the parousia of the Lord; his appearing, his presence; it is his spirit come forth from behind the veil, the daystar rising in our hearts; this is what gets unveiled.

So, outwardly, it is the dawning of a new day, but in our hearts it is an unveiling; the apocalypse of his anointing; the ministry of the high priest in the new Jerusalem, and we are the gates, the pearls, the doorway into the city. Jesus builds up 12, they each build up 12, and they become captains of a thousand... it is a dispensation, a calling to build the city, the city doesn't just appear from heaven, we have to build it; it is the ministry of his appearing. The man child is already raptured with building the new jerusalem... we are caught up in this ministry.

The mainstream religious corporations teach the rapture as if it was an event for the flesh; as if our bodies will float away or something ridiculous like that. Flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom of God, it is our spirit that is caught up to the throne in heaven; and guess what? ... we are already raptured with our ministry to the body of Christ, we are already seated in heavenly places with Christ.

So, here in the 5th seal, we see 144,000 virgins from the 12 tribes of Israel being sealed with the spirit; actually, that is simply a Christian participation in the apocalypse ministry of our Lord. The Lord is come already, in spirit, the harvest is truly great, there's a lot of work to do, some few brothers and sisters are being chosen to build this manchild through the dispensation of his appearing. Lift up your heads and be lifted up! This work is at hand, don't wait for the 7th trumpet, by then this work will be over, we are called to be raptured with the work of his coming right now. Can I get a ram's horn? Blow the warning in Zion, wake up the sleeping lions, the day of the Lord is at hand, a day of grief and sorrow, a day of cloudiness and half light, a day of trouble and trial, but a day of great expectations, so let your spirit in you rise up! The Lord is here. Be ye ready, for he is come to judge the earth and to deliver his chosen.
Well (and this is just me complaining) I feel like this is hell and I'm living out the tribulation.
I agree with you about the rapture.
 

Jen

Trump 2020
more feed back from my better half...

I explained that this was the apology (in the making) God told me to write, and she asked, "what's an apology?" And I explained, it's like a dissertation, it's a theme paper of sorts written on a Christian theme... nothing is clicking... so she asks, "What's the difference between an apology, an epistle, a letter, a gospel, or a revelation?" And I answer, "Nothing, they are all inspiration."

We all partake of the same anointing, there's no difference between the fellowship between the Apostles and any other fellowship that took place in the body of Christ. There's no difference between the Christ anointing that rested on Jesus and the Christian anointing that rests on every member of Christ. If someone says the gifts of the holy spirit are measured to each member of the Body, while the fullness of the Holy Spirit rested on Christ... how can you measure God? Can five gallons of God perform more miracles than one quart? Is the holy spirit sevenfold what it was in Jesus day? Or is the holy spirit just doing seven times as much work? Does God get tired? Does God need to rest one day of every week?

Is this post I am making right now - I am dead tired and just want to go to sleep, but God is telling me to do this first - so it is another letter to my pen pals, right? - is this any different than any letter Paul wrote that Pamphilius ended up choosing to be part of the cannon? Do you think Paul wasn't tired or hungry or cold? Was Paul more filled with the holy spirit? Or was Paul's marching orders (commission) purer? ... from a higher command? Or is all fellowship the same... is all ministry in the body, the same spirit?

I know from experience what the Lord wants me to write, I know when something is inspired, I know when I am being told what to write versus giving my own opinion on a matter; but these things are what normally come upon any member of the body that is working in the ministry. My wife and myself have never had a job that paid us for working the ministry, but we have been active ministers the whole 25 years we've been together... the point being, it is perfectly normal to be writing an apology, an epistle, a letter, a gospel, or a revelation; this is what we do, we employ the gifts given us in the body, we live in the spirit, we are empowered by the spirit, we do the works of the spirit. Christian living hasn't changed any in the past 1985 years, we are still passing on the same breath that Jesus breathed on the Apostles after his resurrection, and we still labor under the same anointing that rested upon the Apostles at Pentecost.
I know what you mean here.
I can tell the difference between my inspired writing and my own - as I'm writing it.
Either way, everything I write reeks of frustration. I can't get away from the frustration, despair, and realization that even those with ears will not hear.
 

Jen

Trump 2020
Cherubs: Wheels, rims of eyes, and flaming swords


Cherubim are throughout the prophets, yet not really explained; the Bible acts like you know what Cherubs are all about… see, over there? Cherub. Be very afraid. Think: enforcement of God’s will; think government. Think: God is doing something, carrying out his will. When God is doing something, watch out, don’t get in front of where’s he is driving his army, don’t stand in between God and what he wants to do… “Get out of the way, Moses, I’m going to kill ‘em all, I’ll just grow another nation out of your seed” … now, that’s a very dangerous moment to speak up and oppose what God is doing. (hint: if you aren’t Moses, just stand clear).


Peter stood there, “No, no, no, don’t let them crucify you Lord” (think man, this is going to hurt something awful) … and Jesus mowed him over, “Move out of my path Satan, I’m coming through”. When you are facing the will of the Father, that’s almost never going to change, God thinks out all his actions in advance, so when it comes time to carry hidden desires out, that’s when the cherubim show up… time to stand clear.


I’m sure someone has gone looking for the cherub with the flaming sword and an entrance into Eden. Have you ever considered that the snake in the tree was just as much a cherub as the one with the flaming sword turning in every direction? This is the will of God. God had already created mankind and that species of man was “very good” … and not at all evil. Next, God creates a different species of man, and this man is both good and evil. He starts out good, then God inserts the nature of knowing both good and evil … what happened there? Was that bite from the snake the desire of God? Is the flaming sword and cherub, God’s way of saying he’s not repenting of this path for mankind? Did God repent later and flood the whole earth? Was the rainbow God’s way of saying he wouldn’t lose his temper again? And how did that work out? Isn’t the 2nd coming prophecy full to the brim with God’s anger at the nations and judgment upon the disobedient? And here we go with the cherubs again.


The Spirit of the cherubs is in their wheels. Whoa, these angels have wheels? No feet? Just wheels? If you have run with the footmen and they have tired you, what will you do in the day of horsemen? And if the days of global war and tribulation are too much for you; what are you going to do when the cherub show up? Cherub run on wheels. And they have a wheel within a wheel; I designed hoist gearing like that, that inner wheel is spinning real fast, and that outer wheel is moving nice and slow but it is not going to be stopped… when the cherub are moving, their wings are flapping, imagine four giant helicopter blades, imagine the noise, imagine the wind, imagine the heat, and that inner wheel is spinning and no doubt smoke is rising and the eyes are set on rings up high and are like laser beams of light piercing all creation headed off in every direction… God’s will is like that. So, when God says, he has thought about repenting of carrying out the plagues (in John’s apocalypse - everything was laid down first by the prophets of old) – and I have talked at length to Jesus about this – and God says he has decided he isn’t going to repent, he is going to carry it all out… look, this is no laughing matter. This vision comes right from the crystal sea throne in the clouds and there are 4 cherubs holding up God’s intentions… that’s God’s way of saying he is bound and determined to see this through. So, I asked him years ago, “1/3 of mankind dies? In one stinking plague? Isn’t that a tad rash?” … “ I mean, really! One out 3 humans on the earth dies??” And he said simply, “Day, they all are going to die, eventually, everyone who is born, dies.” I guess you might call that a heavenly perspective. After that, it’s just a matter of how you want them to go. When you get right down to it… what difference does it make? Mankind makes a big deal of death, as if it is something awful and it shouldn’t happen… but it happens anyway, sooner or later.
Keep writing, Days.
I will read whether anyone else does or not.
 

Days

Commentator
Well (and this is just me complaining) I feel like this is hell and I'm living out the tribulation.
I agree with you about the rapture.
I know what you mean here.
I can tell the difference between my inspired writing and my own - as I'm writing it.
Either way, everything I write reeks of frustration. I can't get away from the frustration, despair, and realization that even those with ears will not hear.
Keep writing, Days.
I will read whether anyone else does or not.
It was the same anointing that was telling me what to write, totally focused on the material, nothing about me, if you look at my first apology - I never even signed it - but as I was finishing it, the spirit told me to get personal, spill some guts, give yourself away. I understood why he wanted that. John does the same thing at the end of his gospel. For this apology, it was totally different, it was as if the holy spirit was leaking the apology right from the gitgo, and I didn't even realize it. I made the conscious decision to use this format; literally toss it up in posts, make it a work interacting with the body... the last one was somewhat, but then it was my wife and a brother editing the opening, I wrote that one in a word document and transferred it online... this one has a whole lot less control, this one is being written online and transferred to a word doc. I'm pretty sure I lose the copyright doing it this way, but I doubt that is going to much matter, no one is going to chase after me for making copies of my own writing (I hope not!). But I totally get your frustration, I have 3 decades of the same, God has a way of stopping all the flow on all our good ideas, so when he finally opens up the lockes and the water comes rushing in, there's no bloody doubt that he is doing it. That was a big reason for doing it this way, I wanted everyone to share in the experience, not so much to have the experience as simply to see it happening as it is happening, to realize that the holy spirit works this way, because today, no one believes the holy spirit works any more, everyone thinks God did something miraculous 2000 years ago and that was the end of it; local churches try to repeat the mistakes of the first church... instead of building on top of it.

I had a crown put in last Saturday, I've been sick all week and what a headache - the old noggin felt like shattered glass - and I've been working night and day, which was weird for a summer week, we should be slow - so what does God do? He chooses moments when my brain is pure mush, not a single neuron firing in a single brain cell, and he tells me; start writing. He did this last time also, seize that moment when I have zero inspiration and no desire for the work whatsoever, first he has to get past me, keep my hand from ruining the painting, I'm a talented writer, I am prone to jumping in there; I understand that, believe me, no one wants Damian to stay out of it more than Damian, so when I only have 4 hours of sleep before the morning limo run, and feeling like death by a wood chipper - recrushed 3 times - and the holy spirit says, go write a post before you fall asleep; I understand why he is doing that.

My fear in sharing it this way, making it so personal, is that people will misunderstand, read the letter from Paul and miss the holy spirit. I'll betcha, if we had all the other letters Paul wrote in his lifetime, I'll bet we would immediately notice the difference when the inspiration was strong; Paul noticed it, and trust me, wow, do I notice it, no one knows better than me how much God is writing this, how strong the presence is, how strong the winds are that are blowing in my ship sails, there is a reason the gospels and epistles were all written when the Apostles were much older; it takes decades of discipline to allow yourself into the writing without taking over; tell the story but stay out of the telling of it, do the work but not be in control of it... I am just reaching this point in my Christian walk, I was saved 36 years ago and have preached all over this nation, I trained for ministry 32 years ago and I can tell you, ministry is non-stop 24/7, it tires you out, ministry is the hardest work I do, maybe not for money, but we work for the Lord, ministry is not for money anyway, not the real work, and we have reached the point where we don't remember 1/10th all the work, who cares? ... work never ends, we live and breathe to do the work, when Paul was in the cell he asked Timothy to bring his cloak (he was cold) and the parchments - but especially the parchments - because you realize that it takes a helluva lot of experience and work before you get to the point where the holy spirit can use you to write with, where you can be poured out, where you can be tapped for all that service you gave.

Jen, I told my wife I am like the elephants, I need to be prodded, I need to be poked with those pricks, who is going to do that for you? No one in the world, that's for sure. I was praying that you or Emily would give this thread some input, it was a HUGE encouragement for me, and also the holy spirit was telling me to write about this aspect, this is a type of rapture that goes unnoticed, but this is the type of rapture that gives us scripture, gives us written fellowship, I have no use for Christian books written by authors, sold in the marketplace, full of somebody's genius, passion, and let's face it; flesh. If somebody put it up for sale; it was their flesh. I can not fathom anyone who knows the holy spirit well enough, to be used to write scripture, turning around and selling it for money. I guess the one prophet; Balaam was it? ... did that. I'm pretty sure that was the last time God put up with that, and Balaam had a donkey start talking to him, and hurt him too, so God let him know he wasn't pleased with it. It is the Lord's work, it isn't for our profit, it is for the body. Every day, my wife gets up and does the Lord's work, and a fresh work of art is produced, and she e-mails it out, as we live and breathe. Young Christians all want to toss a mountain into the sea, what for? They want the power, they want to do great things... the holy spirit wants us to minister to the saints, to forget about ourselves and take care of the members of the body... eventually, you get poured out, maybe some day, you really need to toss a mountain into the sea, but if it happens, it will just be because God is trying to make a believer out of some hard heart, not to show off how great we are. The work of the holy spirit is for the body, when I was young, the holy spirit thrust me into the preaching, you preach the word, not yourself, no one is going to be saved by you talking about yourself, now I am old, and my bones are brittle, there is a lot of pain, the idea of leaving this world sounds better every day, but before I go, God is telling me to do this, I'm not sure what else he has in mind, but it is an outpouring, he is tapping all those years in the ministry, and he does that with the saints, he is doing it with you also, don't be frustrated, it never happens the way we think it should happen.
 
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Jen

Trump 2020
It was the same anointing that was telling me what to write, totally focused on the material, nothing about me, if you look at my first apology - I never even signed it - but as I was finishing it, the spirit told me to get personal, spill some guts, give yourself away. I understood why he wanted that. John does the same thing at the end of his gospel. For this apology, it was totally different, it was as if the holy spirit was leaking the apology right from the gitgo, and I didn't even realize it. I made the conscious decision to use this format; literally toss it up in posts, make it a work interacting with the body... the last one was somewhat, but then it was my wife and a brother editing the opening, I wrote that one in a word document and transferred it online... this one has a whole lot less control, this one is being written online and transferred to a word doc. I'm pretty sure I lose the copyright doing it this way, but I doubt that is going to much matter, no one is going to chase after me for making copies of my own writing (I hope not!). But I totally get your frustration, I have 3 decades of the same, God has a way of stopping all the flow on all our good ideas, so when he finally opens up the lockes and the water comes rushing in, there's no bloody doubt that he is doing it. That was a big reason for doing it this way, I wanted everyone to share in the experience, not so much to have the experience as simply to see it happening as it is happening, to realize that the holy spirit works this way, because today, no one believes the holy spirit works any more, everyone thinks God did something miraculous 2000 years ago and that was the end of it; local churches try to repeat the mistakes of the first church... instead of building on top of it.

I had a crown put in last Saturday, I've been sick all week and what a headache - the old noggin felt like shattered glass - and I've been working night and day, which was weird for a summer week, we should be slow - so what does God do? He chooses moments when my brain is pure mush, not a single neuron firing in a single brain cell, and he tells me; start writing. He did this last time also, seize that moment when I have zero inspiration and no desire for the work whatsoever, first he has to get past me, keep my hand from ruining the painting, I'm a talented writer, I am prone to jumping in there; I understand that, believe me, no one wants Damian to stay out of it more than Damian, so when I only have 4 hours of sleep before the morning limo run, and feeling like death by a wood chipper - recrushed 3 times - and the holy spirit says, go write a post before you fall asleep; I understand why he is doing that.

My fear in sharing it this way, making it so personal, is that people will misunderstand, read the letter from Paul and miss the holy spirit. I'll betcha, if we had all the other letters Paul wrote in his lifetime, I'll bet we would immediately notice the difference when the inspiration was strong; Paul noticed it, and trust me, wow, do I notice it, no one knows better than me how much God is writing this, how strong the presence is, how strong the winds are that are blowing in my ship sails, there is a reason the gospels and epistles were all written when the Apostles were much older; it takes decades of discipline to allow yourself into the writing without taking over; tell the story but stay out of the telling of it, do the work but not be in control of it... I am just reaching this point in my Christian walk, I was saved 36 years ago and have preached all over this nation, I trained for ministry 32 years ago and I can tell you, ministry is non-stop 24/7, it tires you out, ministry is the hardest work I do, maybe not for money, but we work for the Lord, ministry is not for money anyway, not the real work, and we have reached the point where we don't remember 1/10th all the work, who cares? ... work never ends, we live and breathe to do the work, when Paul was in the cell he asked Timothy to bring his cloak (he was cold) and the parchments - but especially the parchments - because you realize that it takes a helluva lot of experience and work before you get to the point where the holy spirit can use you to write with, where you can be poured out, where you can be tapped for all that service you gave.

Jen, I told my wife I am like the elephants, I need to be prodded, I need to be poked with those pricks, who is going to do that for you? No one in the world, that's for sure. I was praying that you or Emily would give this thread some input, it was a HUGE encouragement for me, and also the holy spirit was telling me to write about this aspect, this is a type of rapture that goes unnoticed, but this is the type of rapture that gives us scripture, gives us written fellowship, I have no use for Christian books written by authors, sold in the marketplace, full of somebody's genius, passion, and let's face it; flesh. If somebody put it up for sale; it was their flesh. I can not fathom anyone who knows the holy spirit well enough, to be used to write scripture, turning around and selling it for money. I guess the one prophet; Balaam was it? ... did that. I'm pretty sure that was the last time God put up with that, and Balaam had a donkey start talking to him, and hurt him too, so God let him know he wasn't pleased with it. It is the Lord's work, it isn't for our profit, it is for the body. Every day, my wife gets up and does the Lord's work, and a fresh work of art is produced, and she e-mails it out, as we live and breathe. Young Christians all want to toss a mountain into the sea, what for? They want the power, they want to do great things... the holy spirit wants us to minister to the saints, to forget about ourselves and take care of the members of the body... eventually, you get poured out, maybe some day, you really need to toss a mountain into the sea, but if it happens, it will just be because God is trying to make a believer out of some hard heart, not to show off how great we are. The work of the holy spirit is for the body, when I was young, the holy spirit thrust me into the preaching, you preach the word, not yourself, no one is going to be saved by you talking about yourself, now I am old, and my bones are brittle, there is a lot of pain, the idea of leaving this world sounds better every day, but before I go, God is telling me to do this, I'm not sure what else he has in mind, but it is an outpouring, he is tapping all those years in the ministry, and he does that with the saints, he is doing it with you also, don't be frustrated, it never happens the way we think it should happen.
Some random thoughts that came to mind:
- If someone sells their "inspired" writing, it (to me anyway) ruins it. Soils it. If I am ever so fortunate as to receive inspiration I would never want to be paid for it.

- My being inspired is tiny as far as I know... and afterwards I usually convince myself that I made up the idea that it may have been inspired. Even if I can see the difference, I know I'm too insignificant for that.

- Him choosing the moments when your brain is pure mush makes a lot of sense. I am sure that my mind fights its way into any possible inspired moment (without intending to, but doing it nonetheless).

Keep writing.
It's important.
 

Days

Commentator
Some random thoughts that came to mind:
- If someone sells their "inspired" writing, it (to me anyway) ruins it. Soils it. If I am ever so fortunate as to receive inspiration I would never want to be paid for it.

- My being inspired is tiny as far as I know... and afterwards I usually convince myself that I made up the idea that it may have been inspired. Even if I can see the difference, I know I'm too insignificant for that.

- Him choosing the moments when your brain is pure mush makes a lot of sense. I am sure that my mind fights its way into any possible inspired moment (without intending to, but doing it nonetheless).

Keep writing.
It's important.
Our carnal mind reasons that it must be strong and fresh and full of passion to write for the Lord. Kind of like Gideon bringing 30,000 to battle. We can do the Lord's work out of our own strength; heck, we don't even need the Lord to show up for the battle, we'vc got enough strength to win on our own. And our wallets need to be stuffed to keep up the good work; so won't you send money to support our ministry? And we price our books reasonable so even the poor in Christ can afford to support our ministry, right?

It doesn't just taint the work of the holy spirit; it completely obliterates any presence of God whatsoever. Jesus flat out hates it, and won't go anywhere near it.
 

Jen

Trump 2020
Our carnal mind reasons that it must be strong and fresh and full of passion to write for the Lord. Kind of like Gideon bringing 30,000 to battle. We can do the Lord's work out of our own strength; heck, we don't even need the Lord to show up for the battle, we'vc got enough strength to win on our own. And our wallets need to be stuffed to keep up the good work; so won't you send money to support our ministry? And we price our books reasonable so even the poor in Christ can afford to support our ministry, right?

It doesn't just taint the work of the holy spirit; it completely obliterates any presence of God whatsoever. Jesus flat out hates it, and won't go anywhere near it.
I don't have the best mind in the world.........but I'm open to being used by Him.
 

Emily

NSDAP Kanzler
Cherubs: Wheels, rims of eyes, and flaming swords
Fascinating take! Just outstanding!

I can't get away from the frustration, despair, and realization that even those with ears will not hear.
Some of us are listening. More than you might think. You don't realize how liked and respected and appreciated you are around here, do you?

I will read whether anyone else does or not.
I try to read everything Days posts. Whether or not I have a reply, I probably read it, and would bet a lot of people did.

I know I'm too insignificant for that.
Please never think you're insignificant. Not in the eyes of God or man.
 

Jen

Trump 2020
Fascinating take! Just outstanding!


Some of us are listening. More than you might think. You don't realize how liked and respected and appreciated you are around here, do you?


I try to read everything Days posts. Whether or not I have a reply, I probably read it, and would bet a lot of people did.


Please never think you're insignificant. Not in the eyes of God or man.
Thank you, Emily.
I read both you and Days.............and I read Lance's posts. I wish he would write again.
 
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