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the genesis of civilization

you can't possibly date a magnetic shift, but if there is rock with magnetic north and rock with magnetic south,
you can't possibly date a magnetic shift, but if there is rock with magnetic north and rock with magnetic south, then, what the geologists do is date the rock... but the rock was already there, dating the rock does not tell you when the magnetic pole shifted in the rock.

this understanding of the flood is not going to take hold in my lifetime, I know that. It might enter popular opinion, it seems to be doing that, but the scientific community doesn't embrace paradigm shifts to their whole understanding of natural history.

Tourists visiting megalithic sites are still being told they were built with slave labor during the bronze Age (4000-5000 years ago). If they are staring at the Great Pyramid, the guide explains that Pharaoh Kufu cut 3 million stones by hand with bronze chisels and miraculously placed them perfectly together to create the pyramid. Wait, they are laser cut stones, and there are ten million of them, it took seven million to fill the (8) 2000 foot deep tunnels (under all the pyramids and the sphinx), which are topped by a foundation, then on top of that, 3 million laser cut stones were lifted into place. And the guides know that, but everyone just does their job to collect their paychecks, that's how the system stays bone dead stupid.
 
you can't possibly date a magnetic shift, but if there is rock with magnetic north and rock with magnetic south, then, what the geologists do is date the rock... but the rock was already there, dating the rock does not tell you when the magnetic pole shifted in the rock.

this understanding of the flood is not going to take hold in my lifetime, I know that. It might enter popular opinion, it seems to be doing that, but the scientific community doesn't embrace paradigm shifts to their whole understanding of natural history.

Tourists visiting megalithic sites are still being told they were built with slave labor during the bronze Age (4000-5000 years ago). If they are staring at the Great Pyramid, the guide explains that Pharaoh Kufu cut 3 million stones by hand with bronze chisels and miraculously placed them perfectly together to create the pyramid. Wait, they are laser cut stones, and there are ten million of them, it took seven million to fill the (8) 2000 foot deep tunnels (under all the pyramids and the sphinx), which are topped by a foundation, then on top of that, 3 million laser cut stones were lifted into place. And the guides know that, but everyone just does their job to collect their paychecks, that's how the system stays bone dead stupid.
I hate writing, I know what I'm thinking, I'm just not capable of writing it precise enough, so that you end up reading the same thing I am thinking.

So, here's the deal with the Giza plateau, each one of the pyramids and the Sphinx have (8) footers under them and then a foundation, all the footers are 2000 feet deep, built with cut stone. Each one of the pyramids and the Sphinx has (I'm guessing) roughly seven million cut stones under them.

Kufu never said he built any of it, Kufu dug out the Sphinx. So the Sphinx was already there, so were the pyramids, it is one huge complex, built at the same time, figure about 40 million laser cut stones, weighing anywhere from a couple tons to over 100 tons each. The first thing they did was drill all the footers, then filled them with cut stone, then the foundation complex, which is another 100 foot deep network that runs through all of Giza, and now you can build the pyramids and the statue of Anubis that later gets carved into a Sphinx (way before Kufu). And it has a purpose, it was built before the cataclysm and the flood, to endure those tests and then provide the frequency of life that heals dna. Now for the fun part, the age of enlightenment knew all this, and they purposely went about stealing the crystals out of all the pyramids on the planet so they could sell us snake oil to heal all the sickness that they created. Today, we call snake oil "pharmaceuticals".
 
So, let's look at the other branch of Noah's family that descended from Japheth and settled in Asia. This is where we find Tartaria. Tartaria was the real builders of the great wall of China, the wall faces inward (toward china) - it was built to keep the Chinese out of Tartaria. Don't think of Tartaria as a nation, it was more properly, an empire... and the "Kahn" was the emperor.

This guy does the history for you...

 
Now, I have a question for anyone who supposes him/herself to be a Christian. Is God on anyone's side, amongst the nations? We say, "God bless America" but does God do that? All the nations are beasts, does God bless the beasts and the children? Because if it is so, I have never seen it in the scriptures.

The idea that the whole earth came from Noah's three children is awful simple. Maybe some unlearned fishermen believed that 2000 years ago, but we know it isn't the case. The planet is full of so many varied races of man, and even if you go back before the flood, there's like 9 different major dna strands, and if you really want to understand where the very ancient evidence lies... look in the coal mines. Why coal? Because, what is coal? The vegetation from millions of years did not become oil, it became coal, that's why coal is so plentiful. So, look in the coal mines, because that's where you are going to find the very ancient record of the living.

So, much of what we call science is really politics. And so much of what we call faith is really politics. And so much of what we call history - almost all of it - is really politics. Likewise, almost all of our education is a political agenda.

Griffins were half eagle, half lion. Look at the front of the beast, that's an eagle, look at the back, that's a lion with a very pointed tail. The fiercest predator on land and the fiercest predator in the air, combined into one beast, one empire. From the land of the pyramids. They built structures that dug deep into the earth and rose high into the sky. Atmospheric electricity.

So, when did they do this? 1700's? 1600's? 1500's? 1400's? 1300's? 1200's? 1100's? 1000's? 900's? 800's? 700's? 600's? 500's? 400"s 300's? 200's? 100's? All of the above?

The biggest empire on earth, the only actual global empire we know of after the flood, and the German bankers attempted to erase it from history. Why? politics. What are politics? Lawyers, guns, and money.
 
Okay, I've thought about this quite a bit. It is like a puzzle that I haven't solved. No one has, but puzzles don't bother you, the same way, they bother me. call it, my OCD. Good Lord, watch this video, listen to his argument, and stop the video and stare at those pictures, I have been watching it that way, it took me a long time to finish, now I want to tell you what I think. I'm doing this first, then posting the video, so you can see these things, and this is the world you live in, this is what's out there, not what you've been told is out there.

I'm not arguing with the erasure of Tartaria, the western world has always done that, we erase whatever land we conquer. That's a mentality. conquering and entitlement. "I claim this land for the queen of Spain" ... I came, I saw, I claimed it for my people. Did you know the largest silver strike in history - the Comstock load - was named for a guy who was prospecting nearby and decided to tell these guys who actually found the silver that he and his partner had already made a stake on this mine. The guy was lying, but they gave him a full stake in the mine and named it after him. That was the mindset of the era... go make your fortune, grab what you can... claim you found it, or you built it, claim it for Spain, or France, or England, maybe you have to take New Amsterdam from the Dutch and rename it New York; never mind it was New Amsterdam for 100 years, now it is New York. There was a salt trader on this side of the Ural mountains, and one of the cities on the river he traded with was "Siberia". 150 years later, they renamed the city and then used Siberia to name the area we know it as, today. Then the historians claimed that the guy who was trading salt on this side of the Ural Mountains - historians credited him with conquering Siberia, which was now the name for the land on the other side of the Ural Mountains; that way, the salt trader became the foundation for the claim to the land, for Russia, the Rus, an European people that never crossed the Ural Mountains, before their great great grandchildren claimed they did.

So, Tartaria was there, and the tsunami happened in Lisbon, Portugal. I get all that. But there's two things that still do not add up.

One; the buildings are just as over advanced for Tartaria as they were for the rest of the planet. The people making these videos are saying they had the technology in Tartaria but it was erased... or maybe all these cities not located in Tartaria, like Cleveland and Chicago, maybe they inherited these buildings from something a lot further back than Tartaria.

Two: what global flood? A tsunami in Lisbon, Portugal is not a global flood. These cities were filled with mud, all over the planet. This guy places that event where it needs to be if Tartaria built those cities; so, I'm asking, what global flood in 1755?

All these western powers claimed the land, rejected whatever was there before. This researcher is claiming what was there before all belonged to Tartaria. Well, it all belonged to something global, but it doesn't add up to Tartaria. And I find it rather strange that all the architecture looks like the ancient global civilization of Atlantis ... that the Greeks claim was them. The Greeks didn't know those type buildings were also in Cleveland and Chicago, they still don't know...

 
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why in Illinois? Because the old pre-cataclysm Arctic ice cap rimmed north along the Atlantic coast.
 
You have to love how the coal mines continuously turn out man made objects from deep in the ground and no one in the media covers any of it. Hundreds of objects and even megalithic stone walls, and you never hear a peep. They found a beautifully finished stone wall, two miles deep in a Pennsylvania mine, something like 200 million years old. But hey, why report on it? Nothing to see there, but now if you wanted to hear some politics, now that is non-stop, right?

someone started doing shorts on the coal mines...

 
Here's something you might find interesting, Days.
thanks Addy, seen it.

I like these videos that stick to the record; it doesn't matter what idea the video is pushing if it covers the record, it is worth a watch. Here's one that covers all the ancient sources for the thread subject...

 
Let's add this video and then combine ideas...


So, if there is one over-riding theme for the "foundation of the world" it would have to be that mankind was given the fruit of the knowledge necessary to build civilization, by the gods.

The bigger picture is that there was cataclysmic destruction, a great flood, planetary climate change, more floods, and finally renewal that relied heavily upon angelic assistance, and that assistance wasn't geared toward religious morality as much as simply bringing back civilization.

If an Almighty God repented of making mankind, is that the same type of repentance that a man might make when being baptized? Maybe, but maybe not; after following Jesus for 44 years, my best guess is it would be considerably different. Also, the super ancient ideas that were translated, not only across languages and cultures, but across so much time, and that time can erase meaning or hide it from our eyes... but if we combine those ideas, the seven sages, the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, the handbags of the gods, the assistance of the gods that rebuilt civilizations on earth, the understanding of how things worked here on earth... it begins to make sense.

Humans can not survive on their own, we build upon each others input, we live in communities, we function as parts of the whole. We need civilization. It is mankind's method of survival. Civilization is the clothing that equips us for survival on planet earth. It was and is, a gift from the gods... and those gods might be our ancestors; still caring for their offspring after thousands, maybe millions of years.
 
Let's add this video and then combine ideas...


So, if there is one over-riding theme for the "foundation of the world" it would have to be that mankind was given the fruit of the knowledge necessary to build civilization, by the gods.

The bigger picture is that there was cataclysmic destruction, a great flood, planetary climate change, more floods, and finally renewal that relied heavily upon angelic assistance, and that assistance wasn't geared toward religious morality as much as simply bringing back civilization.

If an Almighty God repented of making mankind, is that the same type of repentance that a man might make when being baptized? Maybe, but maybe not; after following Jesus for 44 years, my best guess is it would be considerably different. Also, the super ancient ideas that were translated, not only across languages and cultures, but across so much time, and that time can erase meaning or hide it from our eyes... but if we combine those ideas, the seven sages, the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, the handbags of the gods, the assistance of the gods that rebuilt civilizations on earth, the understanding of how things worked here on earth... it begins to make sense.

Humans can not survive on their own, we build upon each others input, we live in communities, we function as parts of the whole. We need civilization. It is mankind's method of survival. Civilization is the clothing that equips us for survival on planet earth. It was and is, a gift from the gods... and those gods might be our ancestors; still caring for their offspring after thousands, maybe millions of years.
So, look at the closing chapters of the Apocalypse of John;
the saints return with God Almighty to the earth,
it is a resurrection from the dead,
and what is their primary purpose?
the healing of the nations.
fix civilization

... Isn't that the same thing the gods did after the flood?
 
Okay, this is a good one on the witness as it lived and breathed...


I want you to think about this. Who wrote Genesis? The early part. No one knows, it was myth handed down for millennia. Even those earliest writings in cuneiform, from Sumeria and the region, even those were myths, handed down for millenia. No one was standing next to God taking dictation when he said, "Let there be light". It is a myth, okay? The book of Ezra was written by Ezra, the book of Nehemiah was written by Nehemiah, the books of the prophets were written by the prophets, although the prophets will speak about things that happened thousands if not millions of years before they were born. But the books were eyewitness accounts, we know who wrote them. We know who Isiah was, same for Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Daniel, Zechariah, Jonah, Zechariah, Haggai, these were all real people that lived and wrote their books. That's what makes them eyewitness accounts. But those first chapters of Genesis, that was myth, no one knows where that came from, it no doubt contained material from Sumerian writings, didn't Abraham come from Sumeria?

Okay, what about the book of Enoch? It was basically another prophet writing about stuff that happened thousands of years before he was born. We don't know who the prophet was, it was some old Testament Jew, we know that much, the book was written in Aramaic, which was the language that Jesus spoke. So, that set it apart from the Mesoretic scrolls, the old testament was written in Hebrew and Chaldean, not Aramaic.

So, treat it like prophecy. We (Christians) are not under the law, we are not supposed to give a damn whether the angels sinned or not, that whole realm of good and evil belonged to old testament mentality, and even though it is prevalent in the New Testament, I make it a habit to ignore it, I am not subject to the law of Moses or any of that type thinking, I follow Christ. Talk about a paradox, St Paul was a Jew amongst Jews, keeping the law, to his death, that's just who he was. And when he tried to order the churches to follow the law instead of the Holy Spirit, the churches chose to follow the Holy Spirit instead, and turned from the guy who saved them and baptized them.

But I digress. I want to mention something about this idea that 200 angels came down from heaven and set foot on Mount Hermon. First of all, if the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is the framework of civilization, then it seems to have been forbidden knowledge that was intended for mankind, all the same. IOW, it was like learning the trade of electricity; handle with caution. I find it curious that angels would be chained in the earth (I think that's a metaphor, for locating the prophecy) but here is some food for thought; let me check it first in Google maps... okay, Baalbak temple foundation with the largest cut stones in history, is located about 40 miles north of Mt Hermon. maybe a first project? At any rate, I see these events as the beginning of returning civilization to the earth, after the flood.
 
Okay, this is a good one on the witness as it lived and breathed...


I want you to think about this. Who wrote Genesis? The early part. No one knows, it was myth handed down for millennia. Even those earliest writings in cuneiform, from Sumeria and the region, even those were myths, handed down for millenia. No one was standing next to God taking dictation when he said, "Let there be light". It is a myth, okay? The book of Ezra was written by Ezra, the book of Nehemiah was written by Nehemiah, the books of the prophets were written by the prophets, although the prophets will speak about things that happened thousands if not millions of years before they were born. But the books were eyewitness accounts, we know who wrote them. We know who Isiah was, same for Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Amos, Daniel, Zechariah, Jonah, Zechariah, Haggai, these were all real people that lived and wrote their books. That's what makes them eyewitness accounts. But those first chapters of Genesis, that was myth, no one knows where that came from, it no doubt contained material from Sumerian writings, didn't Abraham come from Sumeria?

Okay, what about the book of Enoch? It was basically another prophet writing about stuff that happened thousands of years before he was born. We don't know who the prophet was, it was some old Testament Jew, we know that much, the book was written in Aramaic, which was the language that Jesus spoke. So, that set it apart from the Mesoretic scrolls, the old testament was written in Hebrew and Chaldean, not Aramaic.

So, treat it like prophecy. We (Christians) are not under the law, we are not supposed to give a damn whether the angels sinned or not, that whole realm of good and evil belonged to old testament mentality, and even though it is prevalent in the New Testament, I make it a habit to ignore it, I am not subject to the law of Moses or any of that type thinking, I follow Christ. Talk about a paradox, St Paul was a Jew amongst Jews, keeping the law, to his death, that's just who he was. And when he tried to order the churches to follow the law instead of the Holy Spirit, the churches chose to follow the Holy Spirit instead, and turned from the guy who saved them and baptized them.

But I digress. I want to mention something about this idea that 200 angels came down from heaven and set foot on Mount Hermon. First of all, if the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil is the framework of civilization, then it seems to have been forbidden knowledge that was intended for mankind, all the same. IOW, it was like learning the trade of electricity; handle with caution. I find it curious that angels would be chained in the earth (I think that's a metaphor, for locating the prophecy) but here is some food for thought; let me check it first in Google maps... okay, Baalbak temple foundation with the largest cut stones in history, is located about 40 miles north of Mt Hermon. maybe a first project? At any rate, I see these events as the beginning of returning civilization to the earth, after the flood.
Alright, so now it gets fun. Let's just piece together everything and let the chips fall where they lay...

After the flood, angels descended upon Mt Hermon. They moved north and west and built Baalbak. Then they moved between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, building the earliest cities of post flood civilization. Finally they get to Ur, a port city on the north of the Persian Gulf. When they finish Ur, they return to heaven, after they leave, the mini-empire of Ur collapses and from that collapse, Abraham takes what is left of the survivors in Ur and migrates to the fertile crescent.

Didn't see that coming? that was the record.

Now, let's look at these four angels bound in the river Euphrates. The first is released and we get the liberation of the Kurds in northern Iraq. The 2nd angel is released and we get another war and the liberation of the Kurds in northern Syria. The 3rd was just released and we get another war that should result in the liberation of the Kurds in northern Iran. And the fourth angel to be released will be in the head waters of the Euphrates and should result in the liberation of the Kurds in eastern Turkey. And then comes the end of the world, which is just to say, the end of this civilization built by "fallen" angels, and the whole mess is handed over to the saints returning with Jesus in the first resurrection.

gotta love prophecy that is bound in the earth with a timer, set to be released.

When the seventh angel sounds his trumpet (Revelation 11:15), loud voices in heaven declare that "the kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever"
 
After the flood, angels descended upon Mt Hermon
These angels came down and taught mankind forbidden knowledge.
Weren't these the same fallen angels making a pact on Mount Hermon -- to take wives here on earth and then their wives bore giants with them?
These giants were said to have a hunger that couldn't be satisfied. They devoured everything, eventually eating humans.
I believe the giants were called Nephilans. I will have to look it up. Their evil spirits are said to said to be still trying to inhabit humans.
Enoch is an interesting book, although the storyline has no way of being authenticated. The Ethiopians still abide by it.
His name is actually mentioned in the bible. He walked with God and then was no more.
He went to heaven without dying.
 
These angels came down and taught mankind forbidden knowledge.
Weren't these the same fallen angels making a pact on Mount Hermon -- to take wives here on earth and then their wives bore giants with them?
These giants were said to have a hunger that couldn't be satisfied. They devoured everything, eventually eating humans.
I believe the giants were called Nephilans. I will have to look it up. Their evil spirits are said to said to be still trying to inhabit humans.
Enoch is an interesting book, although the storyline has no way of being authenticated. The Ethiopians still abide by it.
His name is actually mentioned in the bible. He walked with God and then was no more.
He went to heaven without dying.
You got it all correct. Okay, let's do this.
prophecy
... is like poetry.
first of all, the 7th from Adam, did not write the book of Enoch, the prophecy was written somewhere around the time of Isaiah, so these names are used over and over, if someone today is named Joshua, do you confuse him with Jesus Christ? same name.
Step with me into the spirit world. Every time it happened to me, time stopped, when I came back, it was the exact same moment I left, not one tenth of a second later, but the exact same time, every time.
Let me tell you how completely crazy this realm is. Isaiah was in the spirit and he saw lucifer, son of the morning, fall from heaven. Jesus of Nazareth, the same guy that liked to walk on water during storms at sea, who in the spirit in John's vision of the appearing said he was the bright and morning star (same as saying the son of the morning) Jesus said he saw lucifer fall from heaven, and John was 96 years old and saw his vision of the coming of the Lord, and in the 5th seal (we are in the 5th seal right now) he saw lucifer fall from heaven, Genesis says God took his own glory, the anointed cherub that covered the throne with a rainbow of shekinah light, and tossed it down to the earth... so for the past 20 thousand years or so, it is recorded over and over on earth and the prophets keep seeing this falling star, this light bearer, the armor bearer for God Almighty, his own personal shekinah glory, his light burning in the throne room, and we keep seeing it cast down to earth, and none of us know what the heck that means, let alone how time works in heaven and how something that happened in heaven keeps happening over and over on earth and yet only the prophets can see it.

What do you think it means? No one ascends to heaven except the son of man who came down from heaven. This glory is cast down and it rises back up... over and over. It isn't political science, it is something that happened in heaven, something God is doing, and it plays out on earth; over and over, maybe for tens of millions of years. Every Epoch of time, we do the same play.

watch this. there's a moment in time. Only God knows when the 7th trumpet blows. But it blows in heaven, not on earth. No one here (not even me) is going to hear it. It is the ticking of the clock. These days are winding down to their end and suddenly, in an instant, at the precise moment in our time, this resurrection in heaven is going to happen, and we get caught up in it, does that mean people will go flying up into the air? People won't even know it happened. The saints won't know. Some of us - those of us that can see in the spirit - we will see it, but 99.999999% of the saints won't even know what happened to them.
But whoever is included, has passed from a carnal body to a spirit body, which means they is dead, they just don't know it, as far as their understanding goes, they will get to be a thousand years old and start wondering why they haven't died yet.
 
So, Moses is walking with God, just like Abraham did, a friend of the most high God, and they both had scribes recording their lives, and their genealogy. And they both have this bed time story from before the flood... neither knows where it came from. But they pass it on, because that's what bedtime stories are for. Like the story of India, or the Iliad, or that crazy religion in ancient Egypt. So, mankind knows he has history, and history is written by the victors. Do you know who built the great wall of china? The Tartars. It was built to keep the uncivilized Chinese from migrating into Great Tartaria - border control - the wall faces China, to hold them back. Obviously the story got flipped by the Chinese.

Close your eyes, go to sleep, and I will tell you a story. God made man in his own image, after his own likeness, man was very good. But then, God decided to change man, add more of his own darker side, cast down his crown, cast his glory into the same earth that was man, and then man had to endure the ultimate test of life... hormones. just kidding.
 
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