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The Nuclear Option!

Alinvegas

Alinvegas

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Now the dems are responsible for dropping the first and second Nuclear Bombs and using the Nuclear option in the Senate. All after this:

“Mr. President, I rise today to urge my colleagues to think about the implications of what has been called the nuclear option and what effect that might have on this Chamber and on this country, I urge all of us to think not just about winning every debate but about protecting free and democratic debate.”:Barack Inontnobama, 2005
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This is the single most significant vote any one of us will cast in my 32 years in the Senate. I suspect the Senator would agree with that. We should make no mistake. This nuclear option is ultimately an example of the arrogance of power. It is a fundamental power grab by the majority party, propelled by its extreme right and designed to change the reading of the Constitution, particularly as it relates to individual rights and property rights. It is nothing more or nothing less.: Joe Bite Me Biden, 2005
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“And I just had to hope that maybe between now and the time we have this vote there would be enough Senators who will say: Mr. President, no. We are sorry, we cannot go there, We are going to remember our Founders. We are going to remember what made this country great. We are going to maintain the integrity of the U.S. Senate.”: Hilliry Hilly Ankles Kankles Clinton, 2005
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“The filibuster is not a scheme and it certainly isn't new. The filibuster is far from a procedural gimmick,
It's part of the fabric of this institution we call the Senate. It was well-known in colonial legislatures before we became a country, and it's an integral part of our country's 214-year history. The first filibuster in the United States Congress happened in 1790. It was used by lawmakers from Virginia and South Carolina who were trying to prevent Philadelphia from hosting the first Congress. Since then, the filibuster has been employed hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times. It's been employed on legislative matters, it's been employed on procedural matters relating to the president's nominations for Cabinet and sub-Cabinet posts, and it's been used on judges for all those years. One scholar estimates that 20 percent of the judges nominated by presidents have fallen by the wayside, most of them as a result of filibusters. Senators have used the filibuster to stand up to popular presidents, to block legislation, and, yes, even, as I've stated, to stall executive nominees. The roots of the filibuster are found in the Constitution and in our own rules.": Harry Dusty Harry Reid D-Searchlight, 2005
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...can you say - republican overuse of filibuster? Come on, I know you can...
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Figjam said:
...can you say - republican overuse of filibuster? Come on, I know you can...
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Dems never worry about the consequences of their actions. The republicans will take back the presidency and the senate again, some day, and the dems will be made to pay. The dems are always screaming that the republicans are the party of no, when they themselves have done the very same thing. I believe when harry and his gang deny stalling the senate they are in effect, lying.
 
Alinvegas said:
Dems never worry about the consequences of their actions. The republicans will take back the presidency and the senate again, some day, and the dems will be made to pay. The dems are always screaming that the republicans are the party of no, when they themselves have done the very same thing. I believe when harry and his gang deny stalling the senate they are in effect, lying.
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...Al, it is a growing trend across politics - no one is concerned with tomorrow - only the here and now - this is not a democrat trait - in fact it is a cultural trait that exists in business today causing us to be where we are - executives only concerned with the annual bonus and not the long-term growth of the company...
 
Figjam said:
...Al, it is a growing trend across politics - no one is concerned with tomorrow - only the here and now - this is not a democrat trait - in fact it is a cultural trait that exists in business today causing us to be where we are - executives only concerned with the annual bonus and not the long-term growth of the company...
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Then let's change it. Let's start voting indi and get rid of the bums.
 
Alinvegas said:
Then let's change it. Let's start voting indi and get rid of the bums.
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...you probably won't believe this but I almost always vote anti-incumbent - though I did vote for Obama because I thought Romney was more of a zero that him. If the republicans went with someone like John Huntsman - I would have voted for him. I even would have voted for McCain up to the day he selected the village idiot as his running mate - after that I was done with him...
 
Figjam said:
...you probably won't believe this but I almost always vote anti-incumbent - though I did vote for Obama because I thought Romney was more of a zero that him. If the republicans went with someone like John Huntsman - I would have voted for him. I even would have voted for McCain up to the day he selected the village idiot as his running mate - after that I was done with him...
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I didn't support either one of them in the primarys. but I held my nose both times in the general
 
Alinvegas said:
Now the dems are responsible for dropping the first and second Nuclear Bombs and using the Nuclear option in the Senate. All after this:
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No one believes they will be the majority in government forever and that they will whine like stuck pigs when the Republicans own government and they have to live by the rules they imposed.

But think about this. Obama is going to stack the courts with the most liberal judges possible. Sure, Obama's agendas for the rest of his Presidency are shot. He is definitely a lame duck now. But those judges appointed will be there for many many years.

With the run-around Congress to make laws by executive action and all of the flouting of the Constitution, and the stories starting to come out about illegal things done to get Obama the election in 2012, I am coming to the conclusion that either things will be done so that Democrats always win every election or that Obama will get a third term.

And since the GOP is in enough disarray that people will sit at home and not vote against tyranny because their GOP candidate isn't quite conservative enough for them, it practically places our country into the hands of tyrannical despots.

I believe we have lost our Constitutional Republic and are about to lose anything that was ever democratic about our nation. It's gone and we allowed it.
 
Alinvegas said:
Dems never seem to worry about consequences...
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Mr. Al,

Dems know exactly what they are doing. They know they are sunk in 2014, and possibly 2016, so they are going to try to ram through as many socialist judges as possible.

Similar to 2009, they knew their majority was not going to last, so instead of fixing the econony before dealing with health care, they rammed through the POC that is Obamacare.
 
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