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The only appropriate reaction to terrorism, IMO...

freyasman

freyasman

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Is to go on living your life. Go to work, go to the concerts, take your kids, (or grandkids) to the park or the zoo..... just go on living your life. If you're worried about safety, learn to take care of yourself. There are a lot of us out here who will teach you how. But don't stay behind locked doors, and live in fear.
As to what the government should do? Well, aren't we the voters the ones who have been letting these [Unwelcome language removed] ass-clowns piss off, and fvck over just about every other country and culture in the world for as long as I can remember? Maybe we should take some responsibility for that, and vote these [Unwelcome language removed] low-lifes out, and maybe start paying attention to the way our country behaves in regard to the entire rest of the world. It's called being a good neighbor.:cool:
For all the folks who have been saying we should stop allowing any immigrants in here, maybe you should go look to your own family histories.... I bet it wasn't all that long ago that your people got off a boat from somewhere. We are a nation of immigrant; it's what we are..... it's one of the best things about our great nation, and I don't think that should change.
For all the folks who think we should engage in more military action, let me point out that most everyone on this board is my age (mid-40s), or older..... those wars will be fought by our children, our grandchildren, and if it lasts long enough, their children. Let me tell you something about war, for those of you who have never spent any time at the sharp end of one..... war kills "you". Go talk to any family members or spouses of combat vets, and you'll hear the same thing over and over. "S/he's not the same person I married."; "I don't even know him anymore!"; "He didn't used to be like this....".
The "you" that goes to war, is not the "you" that comes back; that which makes you "you", always dies in a war.... no one gets out alive. And quite often, the who, (or sometimes "what") that does come back, is a damn sight worse than whatever the hell it was they went over there to fight. After my first deployment, when my wife came to pick me up, she walked right past me..... didn't recognize me at all. And how can you blame her? The guy she was looking for was dead and gone. Somebody else was living in my skin.
Is this what you want for your offspring? For your children and grandchildren?

Ya'll think about it.
 
freyasman said:
Is to go on living your life. Go to work, go to the concerts, take your kids, (or grandkids) to the park or the zoo..... just go on living your life. If you're worried about safety, learn to take care of yourself. There are a lot of us out here who will teach you how. But don't stay behind locked doors, and live in fear.
As to what the government should do? Well, aren't we the voters the ones who have been letting these [Unwelcome language removed] ass-clowns piss off, and fvck over just about every other country and culture in the world for as long as I can remember? Maybe we should take some responsibility for that, and vote these [Unwelcome language removed] low-lifes out, and maybe start paying attention to the way our country behaves in regard to the entire rest of the world. It's called being a good neighbor.:cool:
For all the folks who have been saying we should stop allowing any immigrants in here, maybe you should go look to your own family histories.... I bet it wasn't all that long ago that your people got off a boat from somewhere. We are a nation of immigrant; it's what we are..... it's one of the best things about our great nation, and I don't think that should change.
For all the folks who think we should engage in more military action, let me point out that most everyone on this board is my age (mid-40s), or older..... those wars will be fought by our children, our grandchildren, and if it lasts long enough, their children. Let me tell you something about war, for those of you who have never spent any time at the sharp end of one..... war kills "you". Go talk to any family members or spouses of combat vets, and you'll hear the same thing over and over. "S/he's not the same person I married."; "I don't even know him anymore!"; "He didn't used to be like this....".
The "you" that goes to war, is not the "you" that comes back; that which makes you "you", always dies in a war.... no one gets out alive. And quite often, the who, (or sometimes "what") that does come back, is a damn sight worse than whatever the hell it was they went over there to fight. After my first deployment, when my wife came to pick me up, she walked right past me..... didn't recognize me at all. And how can you blame her? The guy she was looking for was dead and gone. Somebody else was living in my skin.
Is this what you want for your offspring? For your children and grandchildren?

Ya'll think about it.
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In regards to immigration you don't know enough about Islam.
 
resident_evil said:
Muslim Opinion Polls A "Tiny Minority of Extremists"?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm
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Whether people really died in Paris or not, there is no question that it was an inside job - French and British and Israeli and US secret services - as was the so called 7/7 attack here. 'They' are moving on their agenda through the use of fear - Frey is right, the only way to beat them is to be happy and un-fearful, from the ground level up.

Since the 1970s they have been building up muslim and other communities within all western nations - to undermine our working classes so pull our foundations out from under our feet, taking out the money which bowls around within our respective societies and kept us able to stay 'sovereign nations' - splitting strong communities built up by the working people, our rocks, etc - by going by procedures rather than quality and so on so that excellence is not possible only mediocrity is --- now we all have indigenous peoples pitted, through fear, against imposed immigrant and migrant peoples also living in fear --- it is a wicked situation we are all in, manipulated into being by an Insidious hand.

Where is the England I grew up in? gone. Where is my London? gone Where are the characters? non existent --- We can all say the same thing --- all we can do is stay solid and not fall into their trap of fear and distrust, guide our children through this Inquisition.
 
Queen Titania said:
Whether people really died in Paris or not, there is no question that it was an inside job - French and British and Israeli and US secret services - as was the so called 7/7 attack here. 'They' are moving on their agenda through the use of fear - Frey is right, the only way to beat them is to be happy and un-fearful, from the ground level up.

Since the 1970s they have been building up muslim and other communities within all western nations - to undermine our working classes so pull our foundations out from under our feet, taking out the money which bowls around within our respective societies and kept us able to stay 'sovereign nations' - splitting strong communities built up by the working people, our rocks, etc - by going by procedures rather than quality and so on so that excellence is not possible only mediocrity is --- now we all have indigenous peoples pitted, through fear, against imposed immigrant and migrant peoples also living in fear --- it is a wicked situation we are all in, manipulated into being by an Insidious hand.

Where is the England I grew up in? gone. Where is my London? gone Where are the characters? non existent --- We can all say the same thing --- all we can do is stay solid and not fall into their trap of fear and distrust, guide our children through this Inquisition.
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Sounds like you want more immigration?
 
freyasman said:
Is to go on living your life. Go to work, go to the concerts, take your kids, (or grandkids) to the park or the zoo..... just go on living your life.
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Statistically, terrorism represents a barely detectable blip in mortality. How many people have been killed by terrorists ever? Even the biggest attack in history killed only about 3,000 people. That barely registers among the deadliest man-made disasters. Compare that to smog in London which killed 12,000 in 1952. Or how about the Banqiao Dam break, in '75, which killed 171,000 people?

If a person wants to reduce avoidable risks, there are various places it makes sense to make an extra effort. For example, wear your seat-belt and observe traffic rules. Keep your weight down, reduce red meat consumption, use recreational substances like alcohol only moderately, don't smoke, increase your activity level, keep an eye out for unusual growths, be extra careful about washing your hands in flu season, get out of abusive relationships immediately, make sure you're properly vaccinated, be aware of severe weather warnings and take reasonable precautions, etc. Those things all have a big impact on significant statistical risks. Hiding out from terrorists doesn't. Worrying about terrorism isn't as bad as worrying about, say, getting hit by a meteorite. It's more like worrying about being struck by lightning. Globally, lightning kills 6,000 and 24,000 people per year, which is probably more than die from terrorism, depending on what you count as terrorism.
 
Arkady said:
Statistically, terrorism represents a barely detectable blip in mortality. How many people have been killed by terrorists ever? Even the biggest attack in history killed only about 3,000 people. That barely registers among the deadliest man-made disasters. Compare that to smog in London which killed 12,000 in 1952. Or how about the Banqiao Dam break, in '75, which killed 171,000 people?

If a person wants to reduce avoidable risks, there are various places it makes sense to make an extra effort. For example, wear your seat-belt and observe traffic rules. Keep your weight down, reduce red meat consumption, use recreational substances like alcohol only moderately, don't smoke, increase your activity level, keep an eye out for unusual growths, be extra careful about washing your hands in flu season, get out of abusive relationships immediately, make sure you're properly vaccinated, be aware of severe weather warnings and take reasonable precautions, etc. Those things all have a big impact on significant statistical risks. Hiding out from terrorists doesn't. Worrying about terrorism isn't as bad as worrying about, say, getting hit by a meteorite. It's more like worrying about being struck by lightning. Globally, lightning kills 6,000 and 24,000 people per year, which is probably more than die from terrorism, depending on what you count as terrorism.
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Nazis? Communists? They killed tens of millions of civilians purposefully and did so for terroristic reasons.

What do you think a Caliphate would accomplish in terroristic terms?
 
resident_evil said:
Nazis? Communists? They killed tens of millions of civilians purposefully and did so for terroristic reasons.
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Yes. As I said, it depends what you count as terrorism. For example, did the US bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or Dresden count as terrorism? How about the aerial campaign against North Vietnam? Were the beatings and murders of slaves in the antebellum South a form of terrorism? How about police shootings of unarmed suspects? With that kind of broad definition, terrorism is obviously a lot deadlier than if we just look at a narrower definition.

What do you think a Caliphate would accomplish in terroristic terms?
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I don't know what you're asking.
 
Hiroshima - not terrorism
Nagasaki - not terrorism
Dresden - not terrorism
N. Vietnam - not terrorism
Beatings of slaves - terrorism
Shooting of unarmed suspects - not terrorism

Hope that helps.

edit: The war on poverty - $22 Trillion in damages terrorism
 
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resident_evil said:
Sounds like you want more immigration?
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I don't I was always against it, Enoch Powell was my favorite politician of all time ---- re read what I said.

I was and am for free trade between countries, that way we would have no economic immigration, as it is the Great powers keep the third World down, through man made climate change or what ever ---- bombing and pillaging and plundering their resources. Funny how the most resource rich countries in the World suffer the greatest degree of poverty isn't it?

Re read my post --- I said we have been maneuvered into a place of fear --- they and we, but that we are stuck in the Lands we are in with this problem, by turning on each other we are just playing into their hands ---- that it is only from the ground level that any peaceful way of being is possible.

 
Queen Titania said:
I don't I was always against it, Enoch Powell was my favorite politician of all time ---- re read what I said.

I was and am for free trade between countries, that way we would have no economic immigration, as it is the Great powers keep the third World down, through man made climate change or what ever ---- bombing and pillaging and plundering their resources. Funny how the most resource rich countries in the World suffer the greatest degree of poverty isn't it?

Re read my post --- I said we have been maneuvered into a place of fear --- they and we, but that we are stuck in the Lands we are in with this problem, by turning on each other we are just playing into their hands ---- that it is only from the ground level that any peaceful way of being is possible.

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Well, certainly then you're for continuing lifelong welfare for Muslims?

Because I've said the West needs to stop importing Muslims. That the West needs to cut off the welfare to Muslims. And that they need to give a free ticket to Muslims who want to immigrate to a Muslim country. Where is it that we disagree?
 
The small group of extremists saying is pure Bull shit. If you read the Koran or the Hadith its obvious that's one sick religion, if you can even call it that.
 
resident_evil said:
Well, certainly then you're for continuing lifelong welfare for Muslims?

Because I've said the West needs to stop importing Muslims. That the West needs to cut off the welfare to Muslims. And that they need to give a free ticket to Muslims who want to immigrate to a Muslim country. Where is it that we disagree?
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Where did I say that?

You are talking about a symptom, it is the sickness that needs a cure not a plaster put over a symptom.

Yes immigration should stop but so should the west's interference in the countries that immigrants come from -- allowing the third world to find its own way.
 
Fast Eddy said:
The small group of extremists saying is pure Bull shit. If you read the Koran or the Hadith its obvious that's one sick religion, if you can even call it that.
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One has to read the book as a whole ---- as in, if this is allowed to happen this is what shall ensue --- as it has.
 
Queen Titania said:
Where did I say that?

You are talking about a symptom, it is the sickness that needs a cure not a plaster put over a symptom.

Yes immigration should stop but so should the west's interference in the countries that immigrants come from -- allowing the third world to find its own way.
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The Caliphate IS their own way.
 
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