The sixteen sweetest reasons to get covered

[Bo-4]

More clever marketing from Team O as they pass 5 million signups (not counting Medicaid and kids on parents plans) and push for their goal of 6 with two weeks to go.

Tie it into college hoops? Brilliant!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...h-hoops-to-increase-obamacare-enrollment.html

 

[trapdoor]

Yep -- 5 million signups; 4 million paid up (at least 20 percent have yet to pay or receive insurance); 7 million needed to make the system viable.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/03/17/enrollment_in_obamacare_reaches_5_million.html

 

[Bo-4]

Yep -- 5 million signups; 4 million paid up (at least 20 percent have yet to pay or receive insurance); 7 million needed to make the system viable.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/03/17/enrollment_in_obamacare_reaches_5_million.html

There will be lots fewer than 20% who end up not paying. Sorry trap, but all thing considered (the botched rollout with literally two month delay) getting to where they are right now is nothing short of spectacular.

Live with it.. it's here to stay

 

[trapdoor]

There will be lots fewer than 20% who end up not paying. Sorry trap, but all thing considered (the botched rollout with literally two month delay) getting to where they are right now is nothing short of spectacular.

Live with it.. it's here to stay

Based on what? Further, we don't yet have demographics on those who have signed up. Even if they reach the goal of 7 million (unlikely) the system will not work if all or most of those 7 million are people with chronic illnesses.

 

[Bo-4]

Based on what? Further, we don't yet have demographics on those who have signed up. Even if they reach the goal of 7 million (unlikely) the system will not work if all or most of those 7 million are people with chronic illnesses.

Again, you're stuck. Just learn to live with it and make constructive suggestions as we go. Nobody considers 24/7 gloom and doom to be constructive.

 

[trapdoor]

Again, you're stuck. Just learn to live with it and make constructive suggestions as we go. Nobody considers 24/7 gloom and doom to be constructive.

There is nothing I can do to "be constructive" about government meddling in health care where it doesn't belong.

 

[Bo-4]

There is nothing I can do to "be constructive" about government meddling in health care where it doesn't belong.

You were content with the most expensive health care system in the world while we carried a number 27 overall ranking?

That's sad.

 

[trapdoor]

You were content with the most expensive health care system in the world while we carried a number 27 overall ranking?

That's sad.

I was content with the BEST health care for 80 percent of the population. I also understand supply and demand. Where demand goes up, and supply remains constant or near constant, prices rise.

What the ACA does is increase demand. It does nothing on the supply side, so however expensive health care was before, prices will rise in the face of the added demand.

 

[Sgt Staples]

More clever marketing from Team O as they pass 5 million signups (not counting Medicaid and kids on parents plans) and push for their goal of 6 with two weeks to go.

Tie it into college hoops? Brilliant!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...h-hoops-to-increase-obamacare-enrollment.html

I've got news for you, Obamacare is dead, it just doesn't know it yet.

Obama cancelled the mandate which was the main financing means for Obamacare, until after 2016. There is no way that the health insurance companies that are taking part in both the state and federal exchanges can continue to operate, as they were promised that everyone would have to have health insurance, and that extra enrollment would cover the expenses of the mandated forced additional coverage.

They will be forced to drop out of Obamacare and the whole thing will collapse after about a year.

And that's a good thing. All but a million of the people that signed up for Obamacare had health insurance before Obamacare, meaning we changed the whole damn health care insurance system, cause much misery for people to cover 0.3% of the population.

Christ, what a boondoggle.

 

[Bo-4]

I was content with the BEST health care for 80 percent of the population. I also understand supply and demand. Where demand goes up, and supply remains constant or near constant, prices rise.

What the ACA does is increase demand. It does nothing on the supply side, so however expensive health care was before, prices will rise in the face of the added demand.

Health care costs are down substantially over the past three years. Is all that due to Obamacare? Nope, but some of it is.

Your claim of continued increases holds no water.

 

[Bo-4]

I've got news for you, Obamacare is dead, it just doesn't know it yet.

Good luck with that Sarge!

 

[trapdoor]

Health care costs are down substantially over the past three years. Is all that due to Obamacare? Nope, but some of it is.

Your claim of continued increases holds no water.

That's an outright lie. Insurance premiums have RISEN over the last three years, reflecting the higher costs.

Further, the overall cost of the program is also well above estimates, having originally been slated to cost $900 billion over 10 years, but now estimated by the CBO to cost $1.2 trillion over that same decade. Your claim of reduced costs holds no water.

 

[Sgt Staples]

Good luck with that Sarge!

It's a matter of math. Obama care doesn't do what it was intended to do, cover the uninsured.

The financing is gone, and 1 0ut of 3 Americans are saying they won't sign up. And most young folks are also staying away. Now there is no penalty.

Watch and see.

 

[Bo-4]

That's an outright lie. Insurance premiums have RISEN over the last three years, reflecting the higher costs.

Not true trap. Health care spending is DOWN, and premium costs while up, have SLOWED big time. They'll slow even more the less we have to subsidize the ER care of freeloaders.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/06/news/economy/health-care-spending/

 

[Bo-4]

It's a matter of math. Obama care doesn't do what it was intended to do, cover the uninsured.

The financing is gone, and 1 0ut of 3 Americans are saying they won't sign up. And most young folks are also staying away. Now there is no penalty.

Watch and see.

Kinda like we've been waiting for all your other predictions to come true?

Okay cool

 

[trapdoor]

Not true trap. Health care spending is DOWN, and premium costs while up, have SLOWED big time. They'll slow even more the less we have to subsidize the ER care of freeloaders.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/06/news/economy/health-care-spending/

Premium costs are rising, and they are rising to reflect the higher risk (which means higher costs) forced upon the insurance industry.

And unless there are offsetting enrollments, that's not going to change -- and we have no evidence of offsetting enrollments.

Bottom line, once upon a time there were no federal costs for this program. The projected federal cost of this program, when it debuted, was $900 billion over 10 years. Now it is $1.2 billion over 10 years -- money to come from the general fund that has run a deficit for many years.

If this is cost "control" it's a funny way to do it.

 

[Bo-4]

Premium costs are rising, and they are rising to reflect the higher risk (which means higher costs) forced upon the insurance industry.

And unless there are offsetting enrollments, that's not going to change -- and we have no evidence of offsetting enrollments.

Bottom line, once upon a time there were no federal costs for this program. The projected federal cost of this program, when it debuted, was $900 billion over 10 years. Now it is $1.2 billion over 10 years -- money to come from the general fund that has run a deficit for many years.

If this is cost "control" it's a funny way to do it.

Didn't care for my link huh? ;-)

Really you should read it.. it's fair and balanced.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/06/news/economy/health-care-spending/

 

[trapdoor]

Didn't care for my link huh? ;-)

Really you should read it.. it's fair and balanced.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/06/news/economy/health-care-spending/

No -- because it ignores the federal costs. I really don't care if the cost of getting a shot dropped from $20 to $19.50. That's meaningless if we are now paying for 50,000 additional shots.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

More clever marketing from Team O as they pass 5 million signups (not counting Medicaid and kids on parents plans) and push for their goal of 6 with two weeks to go.

Tie it into college hoops? Brilliant!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...h-hoops-to-increase-obamacare-enrollment.html

bet it will be as successful as Between Two Ferns.......which garnered 17 million views in the past week and a half.

 

[Bo-4]

No -- because it ignores the federal costs. I really don't care if the cost of getting a shot dropped from $20 to $19.50. That's meaningless if we are now paying for 50,000 additional shots.

A letter from my morning paper.. just for you! ;-)

After reading George Will's op-ed (Ukraine: Misreading Putin and History - Statesman, March 4) one can only conclude that conservatives can't help blame just about anything on Obamacare. In this case it is the invasion of the Crimea by Russia. Because Obama is just like Wilson-FDR-Carter-Clinton and all the "self determinationists" (who with a quick stoke of the pen he blames for Hitler). But of course Obama is even worse because of the ACA. It's a crazy pattern that never ends.

Bad winter connected to climate change? Be serious! It was obviously because of the Affordable Care Act. You got your elk tags but didn't see a single one good enough to take a clean shot? That's right, Obamacare. You made it all the way from the truck to the store and got all kinds of stuff and when you got to the checkout stand realized you left your wallet at home? Dang it! Obamacare strikes again! Perhaps some day we will draw together and stop listening to all these professional gas bags (left and right). In the meantime - drop a hammer on your toe? Forget to pay your electric bill? Must be that stinkin' Obamacare!

ANTHONY MCARTHUR, Boise

Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/03/18/3086399/letter-to-the-editor-obamacare.html#storylink=cpy