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The slippery slope, miscarriage is murder?

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Tenn House Bill 3517, amends the embryo law and could be mis-interpreted to mean that a miscarriage is murder.

http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/107/Bill/HB3517.pdf

"By any act made criminal" is the key statement in this amendment, the vote 80-18, the 18 obviously saw the flaw in the bill, but are politicians really intent on making a miscarriage for any reason, murder?

I would argue that this defies the laws of nature, and what would be the punishment?

If this is the intent of the law, then Tenn has bigger problems, well explained by the number of brain cells lacking in the heads of those legislators.

They oughta lay off the bourbon.

Regards
Pace
 
PACE said:
Tenn House Bill 3517, amends the embryo law and could be mis-interpreted to mean that a miscarriage is murder.

http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/107/Bill/HB3517.pdf

"By any act made criminal" is the key statement in this amendment, the vote 80-18, the 18 obviously saw the flaw in the bill, but are politicians really intent on making a miscarriage for any reason, murder?

I would argue that this defies the laws of nature, and what would be the punishment?

If this is the intent of the law, then Tenn has bigger problems, well explained by the number of brain cells lacking in the heads of those legislators.

They oughta lay off the bourbon.

Regards
Pace
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Hmmm...Then won't Tennessee have to charge God with murder?
 
No, now they will charging a protein with murder, the proteins contained in white blood cells that attack an "embryo" and try to discharge from a multi-celled organism as it is "foreign matter".

Next on trial, Cancer and diabetes, RJ Reynolds and McDonalds will be providing the defense funds!

Regards
Pace
 
Actually it's much better to slide in the other direction. If an eight month fetus is an acceptable kill then why not a three year old child?
 
Nah....let's slide in he other direction. If an 8 month old fetus is fair game then why not a three year old child? if it's not the heart beat that makes a person then why would it be a name, or a memory or even cognizance for that matter?
 
Obligatory response so poster feels validated, this is too nonsensical a post to respond to
 
justoffal said:
Nah....let's slide in he other direction. If an 8 month old fetus is fair game then why not a three year old child? if it's not the heart beat that makes a person then why would it be a name, or a memory or even cognizance for that matter?
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Still attempting to hijack the thread? Feel free to discuss the proposed law.
 
Ohhhh? Well...I don't think its wise to try and make that distinction since it is in its very essence the purest form of the argument. So lets just ask the question outright. What's the real difference between a fetus that is fully developed and a three year old child. Physically there isn't much....so what are the elements that bestow person-hood on that three year old?
 
justoffal said:
Ohhhh? Well...I don't think its wise to try and make that distinction since it is in its very essence the purest form of the argument. So lets just ask the question outright. What's the real difference between a fetus that is fully developed and a three year old child. Physically there isn't much....so what are the elements that bestow person-hood on that three year old?
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Miscarriage....Are you familiar with the word? It isn't a late term abortion...
 
How is this a Hijack? ( actually my computer froze up and I tried to delete the second one but no matter ) You claim that it is wrong for the state to see a miscarriage as a loss of life and I ask you once again what is the difference between that and Cayly Anthony's death? What is that mystical barrier that separates one from the other?
 
You don't get this, at six weeks, a fertilized egg is an "embryo", there's a reason for that, the body is trying to "repel" it, it's a foreign entity, the immune system is working double time to kill it, biology JO, biology.

And the endocrine system is fighting to save it, if the endocrine system works, it becomes a fetus, if the immune system works it becomes dead tissue.

Get it now?
 
justoffal said:
How is this a Hijack? ( actually my computer froze up and I tried to delete the second one but no matter ) You claim that it is wrong for the state to see a miscarriage as a loss of life and I ask you once again what is the difference between that and Cayly Anthony's death? What is that mystical barrier that separates one from the other?
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Really? Most miscarriages are spontaneous...which makes them an act of God.

There simply is no connection with late term abortions.
 
PACE said:
You don't get this, at six weeks, a fertilized egg is an "embryo", there's a reason for that, the body is trying to "repel" it, it's a foreign entity, the immune system is working double time to kill it, biology JO, biology.

And the endocrine system is fighting to save it, if the endocrine system works, it becomes a fetus, if the immune system works it becomes dead tissue.

Get it now?
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It appears basic biology is a missing part of his education.
 
Well let's say a mother gets into a bar brawl while she's got a six month fetus and it dies because of the brawl.
Is she completely innocent?
 
Cellular legislation, and these guys are all about smaller government, I can't wait for the legislation on Alzheimers. That ought to be a rich.

Regards
Pace
 
I am sure there is a point wherein the state is overbearing. However I also know of many pregnant women who act like they have no responsibility to the fetus whatsoever....drink, drug, and do other stupid things that affect the life of the fetus. So where exactly is the line here? Does the light of day suddenly bestow person-hood on us as if we are some form of mythical and legendary creature? C'mon.....are we not intelligent beings? Do we really think there is a substantial difference between a fully formed fetus and a three year old child or are we sun worshipers just the same?
 
You are not, nor are you equipped to determine what causes a miscarriage, drugs and alcohol can "Harm" a fetus, they do not necessarily abort a fetus, don't you know that?

Are you really going to try to defend this legislation? it's nothing more than a bit of political pandership to the extreme mentally ill.

There's nothing more despicable, than to legislate insanity; that's what this admendment does.

Regards
Pace
 
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