The two fields of thought.

[Gramps]

There are but two sides to the present standoff on the political scene. There are those who want the country to recover and would accept whatever leadership they believe can do it and there are those who hope that nothing good will occur between now the election to shift the thinking toward Obama. Now that is what it boils down to. Sad to say.

Whenever you want failure to intervene for selfish reasons which leave people hanging out to dry so that you can improve the chances of your theory to prevail then you probably deserve to get whatever rises to the top of the milk bucket after the milking is done. You are kidding yourself but you are not fooling me or any other thinker who can put two and two together and come up with four. This election to date is not about our welfare it is about class warfare. It's about pretenders hobbling the present administration to, in some cases, fail to deliver on programs that could contribute to a recovery. It is a deliberate stall to postpone recovery to, as was done during the hostage crisis with Iran, influence voters away from the ins to the wantabes.

The confused skirmishes I see taking place with the GOP selection process tell me that lots of the electorate are not happy with Mitt as the standard bearer but if those same disgruntled people then jump on his bandwagon after the others have all broken down that tells me it's not about who's best for the country but is about the party, the party, the party most of who have been on a binge to remove Obama from office before he even took the oath.

Gramps

 

[Doc]

JUST "two types" of people, Gramps?????

 

[MaryAnne]

JUST "two types" of people, Gramps?????

Basically,at this time there are only 2 types,Doc. Do you have any others?

We see little of those who just want the country to heal. Most of what we see are those who rant and rave.

 

[Gramps]

There are many types of individuals. There are rich men, poor men, beggarmen, theives, doctors, lawyers and industrial chiefs. My topic was mindset not flesh and blood. And I really believe that is the root to our problem more than anything else. Nothing would please me any more than to say I am wrong.

Gramps

 

[worldlymrb]

There are but two sides to the present standoff on the political scene. There are those who want the country to recover and would accept whatever leadership they believe can do it and there are those who hope that nothing good will occur between now the election to shift the thinking toward Obama. Now that is what it boils down to. Sad to say.

Whenever you want failure to intervene for selfish reasons which leave people hanging out to dry so that you can improve the chances of your theory to prevail then you probably deserve to get whatever rises to the top of the milk bucket after the milking is done. You are kidding yourself but you are not fooling me or any other thinker who can put two and two together and come up with four. This election to date is not about our welfare it is about class warfare. It's about pretenders hobbling the present administration to, in some cases, fail to deliver on programs that could contribute to a recovery. It is a deliberate stall to postpone recovery to, as was done during the hostage crisis with Iran, influence voters away from the ins to the wantabes.

The confused skirmishes I see taking place with the GOP selection process tell me that lots of the electorate are not happy with Mitt as the standard bearer but if those same disgruntled people then jump on his bandwagon after the others have all broken down that tells me it's not about who's best for the country but is about the party, the party, the party most of who have been on a binge to remove Obama from office before he even took the oath.

Gramps

Better question is WHY Obama is obliging those rooting for a shiiitttyyy economy?

 

[Gramps]

Because MA it comes down to the squeaking wheel gets the grease so those who sound off the loudest have the best chance to get attention. It's a grand plan when it works, not necessarily in the best interest of a vehicle that has four wheels, one of which you serviced while ignoring anyone of the other three that might need some grease as well.

Gramps

 

[ya-ta-hey]

There are but two sides to the present standoff on the political scene. There are those who want the country to recover and would accept whatever leadership they believe can do it and there are those who hope that nothing good will occur between now the election to shift the thinking toward Obama. Now that is what it boils down to. Sad to say.

Whenever you want failure to intervene for selfish reasons which leave people hanging out to dry so that you can improve the chances of your theory to prevail then you probably deserve to get whatever rises to the top of the milk bucket after the milking is done. You are kidding yourself but you are not fooling me or any other thinker who can put two and two together and come up with four. This election to date is not about our welfare it is about class warfare. It's about pretenders hobbling the present administration to, in some cases, fail to deliver on programs that could contribute to a recovery. It is a deliberate stall to postpone recovery to, as was done during the hostage crisis with Iran, influence voters away from the ins to the wantabes.

The confused skirmishes I see taking place with the GOP selection process tell me that lots of the electorate are not happy with Mitt as the standard bearer but if those same disgruntled people then jump on his bandwagon after the others have all broken down that tells me it's not about who's best for the country but is about the party, the party, the party most of who have been on a binge to remove Obama from office before he even took the oath.

Gramps

Mr. Gramps,

You are correct, there are self-rightous, sanctimonious liberals who think only they know the answers, and everybody else who know there are many fields of thought out there.

 

[Gramps]

You should have your keyboard checked. The "I's, "T's" and "Y's" are on the fritz.

Gramps

 

[Alinvegas]

We want it to heal. Lefty accuses us of wanting the country to fail so we can replace the Black President. Not so. It's his policies that we are against. Tell why you haven't voted for a republican president in your life.

 

[Boca]

Your premise is wrong

There are but two sides to the present standoff on the political scene. There are those who want the country to recover and would accept whatever leadership they believe can do it and there are those who hope that nothing good will occur between now the election to shift the thinking toward Obama.

Let me rephrase it for you pardner and you can take it from there.

There are but two sides to the present standoff on the political scene. There are those who want the country to recover, and there are those, who despite all the on-going evidence to the contrary, refuse to admit they made a mistake.

 

[MaryAnne]

You should have your keyboard checked. The "I's, "T's" and "Y's" are on the fritz.

Gramps

There may be snow on the roof, but underneath is working just fine!) Gotcha Wordly!

 

[Gramps]

I would have to lie to say I have never voted for a Republican for President. SO, THERE! And I never mentioned colors, you did. Nice to see you admit you're an "us", though. What policies were you against before he even took office because that is when the character war began? I wonder. Have you ever crossed party lines since you accuse me of never doing that? I'd like to know. BTW. How is your health? I hope it is excellent since you belong to the mindset wanting to repeal Obamacare. My bride of 56 years would not be alive today if not for Medicare because there is no way I could've paid the
$156,000 dollar tab that saving her life cost. I don't know how old you are but the odds are you have a lot to learn yet about survival. Good luck.

Gramps

 

[Gramps]

I never made a mistake in my life. I once thought I did but I was mistaken.

Gramps

 

[Jen]

It seems that whichever side doesn't have the control secretly (maybe even subconsciously) wants the side that has control to do badly. This is true not of just one side but of both. In GWB's second term, when the Democrats gained control of the House, Nancy Pelosi and her people said and did things that looked like they were trying to sabotage anything GW tried to do. They needed to make him look bad and they threw all of us under the bus to make it happen.

There is usually a little recessional dip at the end of any President's 8 year term. There was one at the end of Clinton's but the Bush administration didn't let it take hold. That sort of dip is expected as we end one administration and wait for a change. But to cause things to stall to make a President look bad is unconscionable.

Some of what is doing now may be to hobble the administration, but much of it is not that at all. The Democrats have not put out a budget for over 1000 days. When Obama took office in January 2009, Bush's budget (fiscal year 2010) was in effect. Government agencies and the President were bound by law to have the 2011 budget ready by the end of January (though when a president takes office that date is usually moved a bit). The Democrats held both the House and the Senate, yet, on October 1, 2010 when the fiscal 2011 year began, there was no budget. Republicans didn't stop it from being made. The Democrats simply didn't have one. A year rolled by, small "advances" were made to keep the government rolling. And on October 1, 2011 there was no 2012 budget ready either. The Republican House (that took effect in January of 2011) submitted a budget.................but Harry Reid and his Democratic Senate......tabled it.

Let's face it. Both parties are so "out to get" the other party and make the "other" group look bad that they are screwing us all up. We elect them to do a job but they are all marching to their own drummer and furthering their own agenda. It's pretty pathetic.

 

[MaryAnne]

Little recession????? You are kidding me!

 

[Jen]

That's what I called the recession at the end of Clinton's terms going into Bush's.........would you have called it something else?

Little recession????? You are kidding me!

 

[Gramps]

Thank you Jen for your honesty. I said sometime back that I have gained a lot of respect for some rightwingers on PJ;s since and came on board and you were one of those I had in mind. How nice to hear you agree about reaching some common ground because that is what it will take to wrestle this monster and pin him to the mat.

Gramps

 

[Boca]

Yeah, I know....me too

But don't take what I said personally. You are probably the most sensible and sincere fellow here. I was just thinkin' you needed a little calibration.

 

[Jen]

And I appreciate your intelligence and honesty, Gramps. It's good that we have different opinions. We both (and most of us here ) want the same thing...........good for our country and its people...... and maybe with all the different ways we think we should get that "good", the right combination of all the ideas will help us get what we want. I doubt if any of us are 100% correct, but all of us have a piece to the puzzle. The trick is to be able to work together.

Jen

Thank you Jen for your honesty. I said sometime back that I have gained a lot of respect for some rightwingers on PJ;s since and came on board and you were one of those I had in mind. How nice to hear you agree about reaching some common ground because that is what it will take to wrestle this monster and pin him to the mat.

Gramps

 

[MaryAnne]

That's what I called the recession at the end of Clinton's terms going into Bush's.........would you have called it something else?

What do you call the one at the end of the Bush Term? You seem to have skipped an administration there. I call that,"Selective memory."