This is why Zimmerman wasn't arrested that night

[Alinvegas]

But after the white guilt began to be slung around, the authorities figured they had to do something. Now they are looking stupid in court. In his own words at the scene:

Jurors today heard George Zimmerman’s account in his own words of his fatal confrontation with Trayvon Martin as prosecutors played a dramatic audio tape of Zimmerman being questioned by police shortly after the shooting.
Zimmerman is heard telling a police officer how he saw Martin walking through his Sanford, Fla. neighborhood on a dark, rainy Feb. 2012 night. As a neighborhood watchman he tried to follow him in his car because there had been a series of break-ins in the gated community.
Zimmerman said he lost sight of Martin, got out of his car to call police and was walking back to his vehicle when the 17-year-old attacked him.
“He jumped out of the bushes and he said ‘What the f..k is your problem, homie?’” Zimmerman said on the tape.
“And I got my cell phone out to call 911 this time, and I said ‘I don’t have a problem.’ And he goes, ‘No, now you have a problem,’ and he punched me in the nose.”
In court, jurors listened closely to the tape, while Zimmerman showed no emotion and Martin’s father closed his eyes from time to time.
Zimmerman told police he fell down to the ground after being punched repeatedly. “I tried to defend myself. He just started punching me in the face, and I started screaming for help. I couldn’t see. I couldn’t breathe.”
“He puts his hand on my nose and mouth, and he says ‘You are going to die tonight.’
He said “the suspect” was “mounted on top of me” and began to bang his head onto the ground.
“As he banged my head again, I just pulled out my firearm and shot him,” Zimmerman said.
He said Martin fell backward. “And he’s like ‘Alright, you got me, you got me.'”
Under questioning, Officer Doris Singleton, who conducted the audio interview, said Zimmerman appeared shocked when he learned Martin’s wound was fatal.
“He’s dead!?” she quoted him as saying.
“I thought you knew that,” she said she replied.
Zimmerman “kinda slung his head and shook it,” she said.
Jurors were also shown a second interview, this one videotaped by police a day after the slaying. In this version, Zimmerman re-enacted the confrontation and added that he pulled out his gun “after he hit my head against the concrete several times.”

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[fairsheet]

But after the white guilt began to be slung around, the authorities figured they had to do something. Now they are looking stupid in court. In his own words at the scene:
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You seem to be suggesting that the cops did it right the first time, when they bought Zimmy's story, hook, line, and sinker. I'd be interested in your opinion as to WHY they should've stuck with Zimmy's original story.

 

[Alinvegas]

You seem to be suggesting that the cops did it right the first time, when they bought Zimmy's story, hook, line, and sinker. I'd be interested in your opinion as to WHY they should've stuck with Zimmy's original story.

Other than because it's true, I can't think of a reason.

 

[fairsheet]

Other than because it's true, I can't think of a reason.

There ya go. If he said he didn't do it, he didn't do it. That's how people are when they're in the dock. Why would they lie?

 

[NinaS]

Other than because it's true, I can't think of a reason.

Watch the reenactment....he never said he "jumped out of the bushes". He said he turned around and he was right there. Zimmerman is changing his story faster than he changes his underwear. ALSO...I just saw this on TV. The policewoman who interrogated him said she told Zimmreman that they couldn't identify the victim. He said "What do you mean you haven't been able to identify him? She said...well we don't know who he is. Zimmerman said "He's dead?" Let's see how well that plays out. He was there when the police arrived...turned the BODY over and tried to give him CPR to no avail. He KNEW he placed that gun nozzle on his chest and pulled the trigger. He said he got on top of him at one time and spread his arms out from his body (guess that's what they told him to do in wanna=be cop school) That was a lie because the police said when they got there his arms were under him and both hands were clutching his chest. THAT is why the yellow coward will never testify. They'd tear him to pieces...or should, anyway.

Place it about 2:00...NOTHING was said about bushes and there weren't any bushes where Zimmerman said it happened. He said he DID NOT KNOW where he came from.

 

[Alinvegas]

Watch the reenactment....he never said he "jumped out of the bushes". He said he turned around and he was right there. Zimmerman is changing his story faster than he changes his underwear. ALSO...I just saw this on TV. The policewoman who interrogated him said she told Zimmreman that they couldn't identify the victim. He said "What do you mean you haven't been able to identify him? She said...well we don't know who he is. Zimmerman said "He's dead?" Let's see how well that plays out. He was there when the police arrived...turned the BODY over and tried to give him CPR to no avail. He KNEW he placed that gun nozzle on his chest and pulled the trigger. He said he got on top of him at one time and spread his arms out from his body (guess that's what they told him to do in wanna=be cop school) That was a lie because the police said when they got there his arms were under him and both hands were clutching his chest. THAT is why the yellow coward will never testify. They'd tear him to pieces...or should, anyway.

Place it about 2:00...NOTHING was said about bushes and there weren't any bushes where Zimmerman said it happened. He said he DID NOT KNOW where he came from.

Get your facts straight. Zimmerman hasn't changed anything, this story was being told by the officer at the scene, not Zimmerman.

 

[ITALIA]

Other than because it's true, I can't think of a reason.

As they tie the phone calls to his statements as to time line more may come to light but some things at least got my attention. Trayvon jumped out of the bushes. No bushes. Zimmerman says he was walking back to his car after going all the way through to the street looking for an address and street name Trayvon jumped him at the tee of the walkway. Trayvon's body was well into the area between the houses well away from the tee which to me indicates that Zimmerman had turned down the walkway between the houses looking for Trayvon. Also the position of Trayvon's arms not what Zimmerman said he did with the arms. Zimmerman saying he was saying things to who came out (Goode) that don't show on any 911 call. All that is heard is a yelp. I believe Zimmerman was looking/following Trayvon and he is smart enough that that would not be good for him so he is lying about just looking for an address or street name and going back to his car. There are only three streets in this complex and someone who is in charge of the neighbor watch doesn't know the names?

 

[Boca]

I'd be interested in your opinion as to WHY they should've stuck with Zimmy's original story.

Because there has not been a law enforcement official yet to testify that they had any reason to doubt anything he said in his original statement, including the Chief Investigator who has just finished testifying for the day.

Not to mention the original statement to police by a civilian eyewitness, a defense witness by the way who was called by the state, whose testimony supported the parts of Zimmerman's story he would have been able to observe. And the blood of course. Zimmerman's blood. That might have had something to do with it?

And, Zimmerman was only released after police consulted with the state's attorney.

All that is probably why.

 

[ITALIA]

Watch the reenactment....he never said he "jumped out of the bushes". He said he turned around and he was right there. Zimmerman is changing his story faster than he changes his underwear. ALSO...I just saw this on TV. The policewoman who interrogated him said she told Zimmreman that they couldn't identify the victim. He said "What do you mean you haven't been able to identify him? She said...well we don't know who he is. Zimmerman said "He's dead?" Let's see how well that plays out. He was there when the police arrived...turned the BODY over and tried to give him CPR to no avail. He KNEW he placed that gun nozzle on his chest and pulled the trigger. He said he got on top of him at one time and spread his arms out from his body (guess that's what they told him to do in wanna=be cop school) That was a lie because the police said when they got there his arms were under him and both hands were clutching his chest. THAT is why the yellow coward will never testify. They'd tear him to pieces...or should, anyway.

Place it about 2:00...NOTHING was said about bushes and there weren't any bushes where Zimmerman said it happened. He said he DID NOT KNOW where he came from.

I now have the bushes and "turned around and he was there" in that order straight in my mind. The next day on the walk through he then realized that the "jumping out of bushes" indicated he was walking down the path between the houses following Trayvon and not at the tee walking back to his truck. So he had to change that part of his story to put him back at the tee when meeting Trayvon.

 

[oicu812]

Get your facts straight. Zimmerman hasn't changed anything, this story was being told by the officer at the scene, not Zimmerman.

oops!

 

[Boca]

But after the white guilt began to be slung around, the authorities figured they had to do something.

Had nothing to do with white guilt Al.

It had to do with State Attorney Wolfinger on March 20th calling for a Grand Jury to be convened April 10th; the President of the United States playing the race card hours later by going on national television declaring Trayvon could have been his son; and Revrunds Sharpton and Jackson taking the prez's cue and showing up in Florida the next day March 21st (or maybe 22nd) to showcase some African-American muscle of what could be done.

There was always the possibility a Grand Jury wouldn't bring charges ( a good possibility if what we've heard so far is all the State has to offer), and to forego that possibility the prez and the revs went into curbside streetwise action. End result was they got what they wanted....continued racial divisiveness.

They are not dumb...well maybe Al and Jesse...but not the prez. Al and Jesse did their professional thing on cue from the prez and did the only thing they know how to do, packed up and went to Florida to put some implicit heat on officials. That being, "if you don't want broken store windows you better do something".

And it worked. Governor Scott didn't have to have his children kidnapped to get the picture. Burning cars and tear gas are not conducive to tourism.

So on April 10th, the day the Grand Jury was to convene, the case was taken away from them and Zimmerman was charged with 2nd degree murder by the new State's Attorney.

So they kicked the can down the road...problem is where is the can gonna get kicked when Zimmerman walks?

 

[NinaS]

Get your facts straight. Zimmerman hasn't changed anything, this story was being told by the officer at the scene, not Zimmerman.

You watching Fox? Of course he has changed things. He has omitted things said in the 911 tape...he has ADDED things said. He has changed his story numerous times in his effort to be the victim here. He said he was following him...then (probably after being told by his daddy or lawyers) he said he wasn't following him....yet he admits later he was. If he cant' get his own story straight...how in hell can anyone else? AND Zimmerman WAS telling his story in the reenactment. If it takes too much of your time or whatever to actually watch it, then too damn bad.

 

[NinaS]

As they tie the phone calls to his statements as to time line more may come to light but some things at least got my attention. Trayvon jumped out of the bushes. No bushes. Zimmerman says he was walking back to his car after going all the way through to the street looking for an address and street name Trayvon jumped him at the tee of the walkway. Trayvon's body was well into the area between the houses well away from the tee which to me indicates that Zimmerman had turned down the walkway between the houses looking for Trayvon. Also the position of Trayvon's arms not what Zimmerman said he did with the arms. Zimmerman saying he was saying things to who came out (Goode) that don't show on any 911 call. All that is heard is a yelp. I believe Zimmerman was looking/following Trayvon and he is smart enough that that would not be good for him so he is lying about just looking for an address or street name and going back to his car. There are only three streets in this complex and someone who is in charge of the neighbor watch doesn't know the names?

I'm pretty sure I read that he had lived there 8 yrs. And he has admitted more than once he was following him and then in the next breath denies it. He's covering his ass. And that's a lot of territory to cover.

 

[NinaS]

Had nothing to do with white guilt Al.

It had to do with State Attorney Wolfinger on March 20th calling for a Grand Jury to be convened April 10th; the President of the United States playing the race card hours later by going on national television declaring Trayvon could have been his son; and Revrunds Sharpton and Jackson taking the prez's cue and showing up in Florida the next day March 21st (or maybe 22nd) to showcase some African-American muscle of what could be done.

There was always the possibility a Grand Jury wouldn't bring charges ( a good possibility if what we've heard so far is all the State has to offer), and to forego that possibility the prez and the revs went into curbside streetwise action. End result was they got what they wanted....continued racial divisiveness.

They are not dumb...well maybe Al and Jesse...but not the prez. Al and Jesse did their professional thing on cue from the prez and did the only thing they know how to do, packed up and went to Florida to put some implicit heat on officials. That being, "if you don't want broken store windows you better do something".

And it worked. Governor Scott didn't have to have his children kidnapped to get the picture. Burning cars and tear gas are not conducive to tourism.

So on April 10th, the day the Grand Jury was to convene, the case was taken away from them and Zimmerman was charged with 2nd degree murder by the new State's Attorney.

So they kicked the can down the road...problem is where is the can gonna get kicked when Zimmerman walks?

Well, BOXA..I guess if Zimmerman hadn't tried to play cops and robbers none of this would be a problem. I don't think he should get 2nd degree murder but I'm concerned that if he walks he will AGAIN be able to carry a gun and whose life will be in jeopardy then? Every bit of this is his fault. I don't see how anyone can blame the kid. He wanted a drink...the 12 yr old wanted skittles. He walked a mile to get them. He was followed by a wanna-be who has been arrested 3 times previously (something cons here won't talk about) and thinks he is capable of policing others. I don't know or care who hit who first...who screamed. IF George Zimmerman had called the police since he felt OBLIGATED to do so when seeing a black kid walking in the neighborhood and let them do the pursuing and questioning...it would NOT have happened. George Zimmerman needs to do time for ending the life of an innocent kid and for making BAD judgements while carrying a deadly weapon. If he felt he was responsible enough to have concealed carry, he should have been responsible enough to follow the rules of the watch and not try to play cop....he was NOT a policeman. And what I mean by "innocent kid" is that his actions were innocent that evening...he obviously was not armed with any weapon and was headed back to the place he was staying. As far as his actions for getting suspended and whatever else...it has nothing to do with his dying that night.

 

[EatTheRich]

Because there has not been a law enforcement official yet to testify

Technically, a law enforcement official has not (yet) testified under oath that he doubted Zimmerman's statement, only affirmed it publicly.

 

[EatTheRich]

@NinaS: Exactly. What is creating racial divisiveness? The prosecution of Zimmerman? Or the killing of Martin?