Thoughts on the Garner case

[justoffal]

I haven't said too much ....mostly I have been reading and digesting the posts of others on this matter.

One thing that I have felt right along is disgust about the revenue issue involved here. He was selling ciagarettes to willing customers who didn't want to have to pay the city its usurious tax levy on that praticular personal vice. I get it....I feel the same way even though I don' t smoke. Now we all know that lefty is big on taxing things. Hell I'm waiting for the day they send a tax examiner out with a pecker checker to levy taxes on manhood. But I digress.

I could see the tackle and sidewalk wrestling if the guy was openly threatening someone else ( though he does have a long record of arrests ) or being a real menace....as it was he was only menacing the local tax hounds who were reticent to lose even a nickle of their blood money to an independent merchant.

Lefty Killed Garner by making too big a deal out of the sales tax on that item.

Deblasio Killed him by making it a priority to shut down illegal sales that didn't pay taxes to the sheriff of Nottingham's coffers.

Progressive Marxists killed Garner by making it a capital offense to hide even so much as a nickel from the glowering and gaping yaw of the wealth vampires.



JO

 

[Boltlady]

I haven't said too much ....mostly I have been reading and digesting the posts of others on this matter.

One thing that I have felt right along is disgust about the revenue issue involved here. He was selling ciagarettes to willing customers who didn't want to have to pay the city its usurious tax levy on that praticular personal vice. I get it....I feel the same way even though I don' t smoke. Now we all know that lefty is big on taxing things. Hell I'm waiting for the day they send a tax examiner out with a pecker checker to levy taxes on manhood. But I digress.

I could see the tackle and sidewalk wrestling if the guy was openly threatening someone else ( though he does have a long record of arrests ) or being a real menace....as it was he was only menacing the local tax hounds who were reticent to lose even a nickle of their blood money to an independent merchant.

Lefty Killed Garner by making too big a deal out of the sales tax on that item.

Deblasio Killed him by making it a priority to shut down illegal sales that didn't pay taxes to the sheriff of Nottingham's coffers.

Progressive Marxists killed Garner by making it a capital offense to hide even so much as a nickel from the glowering and gaping yaw of the wealth vampires.



JO

His actual sales may not have had anything to do with the taxes. A lot of people will often only have enough money on them for something immediate. Kind of like the folks who put $2 worth of gas in their car or even stretch to put $5 in. Unfortunately, I've been a smoker for over 60 years. I can tell you that there have been plenty of times when people have offered me a buck for one. Perhaps word had gone out that this guy was a good source for the one at a time and wallah, he was in business.

 

[justoffal]

His actual sales may not have had anything to do with the taxes. A lot of people will often only have enough money on them for something immediate. Kind of like the folks who put $2 worth of gas in their car or even stretch to put $5 in. Unfortunately, I've been a smoker for over 60 years. I can tell you that there have been plenty of times when people have offered me a buck for one. Perhaps word had gone out that this guy was a good source for the one at a time and wallah, he was in business.

The danger to him was not his choice of sidewalk entrepreneurship it was the fact that he was competing with the city and the state..... Myself I think his activity was pretty much harmless.......how much money is someone like this going to cost the city or state? Maybe 20 bucks a day in lost taxes???? If they weren't so focused on money and more focused on real human tragedy this would never have happened in the first place.

 

[Fast Eddy]

The guy committed a crime, but nothing worth dieing for. the Police need to lean how to properly use restraint against those not doing violent crimes. You can read daily about cops beating up old guys or teenagers. Somehow the thug cop needs to be restrained.
One a cop says your going to jail its stupid to fight, it has then just become a test of wills and the need to enforce what you said. There are a lot of lawyers that would like a crack at some of these thug cops.

 

[Jen]

Lefty Killed Garner by making too big a deal out of the sales tax on that item.

Deblasio Killed him by making it a priority to shut down illegal sales that didn't pay taxes to the sheriff of Nottingham's coffers.

Progressive Marxists killed Garner by making it a capital offense to hide even so much as a nickel from the glowering and gaping yaw of the wealth vampires.



JO

Exactly JO.
Leftist Progressives paved the way for Garner's death.

 

[BitterPill]

I haven't said too much ....mostly I have been reading and digesting the posts of others on this matter.

One thing that I have felt right along is disgust about the revenue issue involved here. He was selling ciagarettes to willing customers who didn't want to have to pay the city its usurious tax levy on that praticular personal vice. I get it....I feel the same way even though I don' t smoke. Now we all know that lefty is big on taxing things. Hell I'm waiting for the day they send a tax examiner out with a pecker checker to levy taxes on manhood. But I digress.

I could see the tackle and sidewalk wrestling if the guy was openly threatening someone else ( though he does have a long record of arrests ) or being a real menace....as it was he was only menacing the local tax hounds who were reticent to lose even a nickle of their blood money to an independent merchant.

Lefty Killed Garner by making too big a deal out of the sales tax on that item.

Deblasio Killed him by making it a priority to shut down illegal sales that didn't pay taxes to the sheriff of Nottingham's coffers.

Progressive Marxists killed Garner by making it a capital offense to hide even so much as a nickel from the glowering and gaping yaw of the wealth vampires.



JO

Your delusions seem particularly strong today, Offal.

 

[ya-ta-hey]

I haven't said too much ....mostly I have been reading and digesting the posts of others on this matter.

One thing that I have felt right along is disgust about the revenue issue involved here. He was selling ciagarettes to willing customers who didn't want to have to pay the city its usurious tax levy on that praticular personal vice. I get it....I feel the same way even though I don' t smoke. Now we all know that lefty is big on taxing things. Hell I'm waiting for the day they send a tax examiner out with a pecker checker to levy taxes on manhood. But I digress.

I could see the tackle and sidewalk wrestling if the guy was openly threatening someone else ( though he does have a long record of arrests ) or being a real menace....as it was he was only menacing the local tax hounds who were reticent to lose even a nickle of their blood money to an independent merchant.

Lefty Killed Garner by making too big a deal out of the sales tax on that item.

Deblasio Killed him by making it a priority to shut down illegal sales that didn't pay taxes to the sheriff of Nottingham's coffers.

Progressive Marxists killed Garner by making it a capital offense to hide even so much as a nickel from the glowering and gaping yaw of the wealth vampires.



JO

Mr. Offal,

Two things. First, he wasn't selling cigarettes to people who didn't want to pay taxes, he was selling loose cigarettes to people who didn't want to, or didn't have the money to buy a full pack. Taxes were still paid on the cigarettes he originally bought.

Second, he was not tackled and wrestled to the sidewalk because he was openly threating someone, he was tackled and wrestled to the sidewalk because he was resisting arrest and refused the officers directions to put his hands behind his back. I suppose you could say they were being too rough, but how else would they have arrested him when he didn't want to be arrested?