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MaryAnne

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Did this Governor sit on his own balls like McConnell?

Did this GoverAnalysis of Flawed Right to Work Legislation Shows Governor, Republican Legislators, Had Never Reviewed Language Prior to Signing it Into Law


http://www.senatedems.com/news/arti...eviewed-language-prior-to-signing-it-into-law

Lansing – Less than 24 hours after Governor Snyder signed his damaging “Right to Work” legislation into law, analysis shows that the flawed legislation may not even have the result the Governor claimed it would, raising serious questions about whether the Republican leadership even read the language of the bills before voting it through and signing it into law.

“It's become increasingly clear that the Governor presented the legislature with bills written by out-of-state extremists who had no understanding of Michigan's constitution or how our laws apply to Michigan workers,” said Senate Democratic Leader Gretchen Whitmer. “This is what happens when the Governor does an 11th hour about face in a lame duck session showing utter contempt for our people by cutting out all public input, scrutiny and debate. That isn't leadership, it's epic incompetence .”

Reports today show that HB 4003, which the Governor said would provide “Right to Work” type policies for public employees in Michigan, could not be implemented as intended as the Michigan Constitution gives clear authority to the Civil Service Commission over conditions of employment for the state's workforce. Experts have suggested today only a vote of the Civil Service Commission could enact Right to Work policies for state workers.

“The public was not given an opportunity to read these bills, legislators were not given an opportunity to read these bills, and we now know that the Governor himself either didn't read or didn't understand these bills himself,” said Senator Bert Johnson (D – Detroit). “This process has been a complete affront to Democracy from the start and was nothing more than a political gift to the Koch Brothers and ALEC who bought and paid for this legislation.”

A series of questions have been raised in recent days over the legality of the “Right to Work” legislation as well as the process in which it passed. A lawsuit has already been filed against the Michigan House of Representatives for violating the Open Meetings Act as these bills were passed while the public was illegally locked out of the State Capitol and additional legal challenges are expected in the coming days.
 
So eager to do the Koch's bidding....they didn't realize the law they were told to support wouldn't hold up in court.


Brilliant.

ROFLMAO :D
 
“This is what happens when the Governor does an 11th hour about face in a lame duck session showing utter contempt for our people by cutting out all public input, scrutiny and debate. That isn't leadership, it's epic incompetence .”

epic incompetence

poor repubs, not very clever at all.
 
“This is what happens when the Governor does an 11th hour about face in a lame duck session showing utter contempt for our people by cutting out all public input, scrutiny and debate. That isn't leadership, it's epic incompetence .”

epic incompetence

poor repubs, not very clever at all.

They thought by putting an appropriation in it the other side could not put in on the ballot. Instead it violates Michigan law!
 
Is this actually a liberal complaining that a law was passed prior to people- and the public- reading it??

Is the liberal robot mind fueled by hypocrisy?
 
Did this Governor sit on his own balls like McConnell?

Did this GoverAnalysis of Flawed Right to Work Legislation Shows Governor, Republican Legislators, Had Never Reviewed Language Prior to Signing it Into Law


http://www.senatedems.com/news/arti...eviewed-language-prior-to-signing-it-into-law

Lansing – Less than 24 hours after Governor Snyder signed his damaging “Right to Work” legislation into law, analysis shows that the flawed legislation may not even have the result the Governor claimed it would, raising serious questions about whether the Republican leadership even read the language of the bills before voting it through and signing it into law.

“It's become increasingly clear that the Governor presented the legislature with bills written by out-of-state extremists who had no understanding of Michigan's constitution or how our laws apply to Michigan workers,” said Senate Democratic Leader Gretchen Whitmer. “This is what happens when the Governor does an 11th hour about face in a lame duck session showing utter contempt for our people by cutting out all public input, scrutiny and debate. That isn't leadership, it's epic incompetence .”

Reports today show that HB 4003, which the Governor said would provide “Right to Work” type policies for public employees in Michigan, could not be implemented as intended as the Michigan Constitution gives clear authority to the Civil Service Commission over conditions of employment for the state's workforce. Experts have suggested today only a vote of the Civil Service Commission could enact Right to Work policies for state workers.

“The public was not given an opportunity to read these bills, legislators were not given an opportunity to read these bills, and we now know that the Governor himself either didn't read or didn't understand these bills himself,” said Senator Bert Johnson (D – Detroit). “This process has been a complete affront to Democracy from the start and was nothing more than a political gift to the Koch Brothers and ALEC who bought and paid for this legislation.”

A series of questions have been raised in recent days over the legality of the “Right to Work” legislation as well as the process in which it passed. A lawsuit has already been filed against the Michigan House of Representatives for violating the Open Meetings Act as these bills were passed while the public was illegally locked out of the State Capitol and additional legal challenges are expected in the coming days.

Maryanne,

I agree with this criticism. Would you agree the same standard could have applied to PPACA?
 
Maryanne,

I agree with this criticism. Would you agree the same standard could have applied to PPACA?
No,because the health Care bill was already working in Massachusetts and was written by the Heritage Foundation.The man who wrote the Mass.Law also wrote the Federal bill.

There is not the slighest resemblance to a bill written over night and passed by a lame duck Congress.

Next question?
 
No,because the health Care bill was already working in Massachusetts and was written by the Heritage Foundation.The man who wrote the Mass.Law also wrote the Federal bill.

There is not the slighest resemblance to a bill written over night and passed by a lame duck Congress.

Next question?


My point was about the principle that the public was not given an opportunity to read these bills, legislators were not given an opportunity to read these bills. You do not agree, ok.
 
No,because the health Care bill was already working in Massachusetts and was written by the Heritage Foundation.The man who wrote the Mass.Law also wrote the Federal bill.

There is not the slighest resemblance to a bill written over night and passed by a lame duck Congress.

Next question?


My point was about the principle that the public was not given an opportunity to read these bills, legislators were not given an opportunity to read these bills. You do not agree, ok. :)
 
My point was about the principle that the public was not given an opportunity to read these bills, legislators were not given an opportunity to read these bills. You do not agree, ok. :)

it's rightwing nonsense to claim that the PPACA wasn't read before it was voted on.

Reps and Senators don't need to actually read bills (have you ever tried to read one? they're incomprehensible to a lay person) as they have staff to do that and to brief them on what's in it.
 
My point was about the principle that the public was not given an opportunity to read these bills, legislators were not given an opportunity to read these bills. You do not agree, ok.

the Health Care bill was. Debated for weeks because Baucus and Grassley tied it up for so long.Finally they agreed Grassley came our and voted against the boll.That cost us the mandate for all.

BD ,you may not remember this I do,Iwatched it all onCSpan.
 
That would not even have been possible in this case. NO ONE read this entire bill before it was voted on.
 
That's right. Only the Civil Service Commission can make rules for state workers. That was why it was created in 1908. But state employees retirements are protected from taxation byt state constitution, and yet he succeeded in getting it taxed. Plus that doesn't help private sector employees.
 
Maryanne, the health care bill was online and people could read it anytime they chose. Legislator or voter had easy access to it for months.
 
Julie the bill was online for months before there was a vote on it. I believe Arkady read it, I read it, I'm sure Knot read it. This was during that time they were claiming it contained wording for death panels, and several other idiotic things.
 
My point was about the principle that the public was not given an opportunity to read these bills, legislators were not given an opportunity to read these bills. You do not agree, ok.

They were published in the Library of Congress prior to passage. I read them. Why didn't you?
 
Maryanne, the health care bill was online and people could read it anytime they chose. Legislator or voter had easy access to it for months.

Of course it was Wahbooz.BD did not even remember how long the bill took to pass.
Any one who watched it on CSPan hard the chance to read the bill and knew how long Baucus held the bill hostage to his own wants

BD, you are the kind of rightie the Dems need to get rid of with your long term memory loss.
 
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