Top 10 pearls of wisdom, borrowed from the"comments" section... give input or add some more.

[Dino]

(1) Isn't it weird that in America, our flag and our culture offend so many people, but our benefits don't?

(2) How can the federal government ask U.S. citizens to pay back student loans, when illegal aliens are receiving a free education?

(3) Only in America are legal citizens labeled "racists" and "Nazis," but illegal aliens are called "Dreamers”.

(4) Liberals say, "If confiscating all guns saves just one life, it's worth it". Well then, if deporting all illegals saves just one life, wouldn't that be worth it?

(5) I can't quite figure out how you can proudly wave the flag of another country, but consider it punishment to be sent back there.

6) The Constitution: It doesn't need to be rewritten, it needs to be reread.

(7) William F. Buckley said: "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other points of view, and are then shocked and offended when they discover there are other points of view."

(8) Joseph Sobran said: "'Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own. 'Compassion' is when a politician arranges the transfer."

(9) "Illegal" isn't a race.

(10) Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it. (Thomas Sowell)

 

[JackDallas]

(1) Isn't it weird that in America, our flag and our culture offend so many people, but our benefits don't?

(2) How can the federal government ask U.S. citizens to pay back student loans, when illegal aliens are receiving a free education?

(3) Only in America are legal citizens labeled "racists" and "Nazis," but illegal aliens are called "Dreamers”.

(4) Liberals say, "If confiscating all guns saves just one life, it's worth it". Well then, if deporting all illegals saves just one life, wouldn't that be worth it?

(5) I can't quite figure out how you can proudly wave the flag of another country, but consider it punishment to be sent back there.

6) The Constitution: It doesn't need to be rewritten, it needs to be reread.

(7) William F. Buckley said: "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other points of view, and are then shocked and offended when they discover there are other points of view."

(8) Joseph Sobran said: "'Need' now means wanting someone else's money. 'Greed' means wanting to keep your own. 'Compassion' is when a politician arranges the transfer."

(9) "Illegal" isn't a race.

(10) Socialism is general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it. (Thomas Sowell)

The only lives that will be saved, by confiscating all guns, are those of murderers, robbers, and terrorists.

 

[Arkady]

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(1) Almost nobody is offended by America and our flag. As for our culture, it's true that a lot of people are offended by it. You can hardly go a week without hearing some conservative complaining about rap music, TV shows featuring characters who don't stick to cisgendered heterosexuality, and so on.
(2) Is it your belief that illegal aliens get free education that citizens don't have access to
(3) It's not legal citizens, generally, who are labeled racists and Nazis.... just those who behave like racists and Nazis. And it isn't illegal aliens, generally, who are called "Dreamers," but rather people who were brought here illegally when they were children and have been law abiding ever since.
(4) Who, exactly, says "If confiscating all guns saves just one life, it's worth it"? I did a Google search for an example of a liberal saying that, and all I could find is the usual brainless right-wingers asserting that this is something liberals say. When I searched for it without the "liberals say" prefix, there were only five results on Google, all of which involved right-wingers attributing it to liberals in other ways (e.g., "libs say" or "liberals contend.") Isn't this pretty clearly an example of a straw-man attack -- rather than address what liberals actually say, a position is invented by conservatives and attributed to liberals so the conservatives can have something to attack.

 

[Arkady]

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(5) It's odd that you can't figure that one out. If it helps, attend a St. Patrick's Day parade some time. People can be proud of Irish heritage without that meaning they'd be happy to have their family broken up and to be forced from their home.
6) The Constitution's been in the process of being rewritten from the start, and that's a good thing. Would it make sense for Trump to be the President and Clinton the VP, based on her having the second-most electoral votes? Would it make sense for blacks and women not to have voting rights? If we're honest about it, it's clear that the Founders came up with a flawed document in need of revision. Even they saw that, which is why they went to work revising it from the start. We should continue that proud work today.
(7) Buckley was wrong, as usual.
(8) More straw men.
(9) Has any ever claimed "illegal" is a race, or is that another straw man?(
10) Socialism has a track record of great success. I'm not referring to autocratic communism, but rather socialism as an ingredient to a modern, pluralistic and democratic nation. If you were to list the top 20 nations in the world you might actually want to live in, based on their quality of life, all twenty would have a hefty dose of socialism, including the US. There's absolutely no evidence that a high quality of life can be achieved on a large scale without a hefty dose of socialism (e.g., overtime laws, minimum wage laws, government coverage for at least a large portion of the population's healthcare, government provided primary education, government subsidized retirements, etc.).

 

[Dino]

(1) Almost nobody is offended by America and our flag. As for our culture, it's true that a lot of people are offended by it. You can hardly go a week without hearing some conservative complaining about rap music, TV shows featuring characters who don't stick to cisgendered heterosexuality, and so on.
(2) Is it your belief that illegal aliens get free education that citizens don't have access to
(3) It's not legal citizens, generally, who are labeled racists and Nazis.... just those who behave like racists and Nazis. And it isn't illegal aliens, generally, who are called "Dreamers," but rather people who were brought here illegally when they were children and have been law abiding ever since.
(4) Who, exactly, says "If confiscating all guns saves just one life, it's worth it"? I did a Google search for an example of a liberal saying that, and all I could find is the usual brainless right-wingers asserting that this is something liberals say. When I searched for it without the "liberals say" prefix, there were only five results on Google, all of which involved right-wingers attributing it to liberals in other ways (e.g., "libs say" or "liberals contend.") Isn't this pretty clearly an example of a straw-man attack -- rather than address what liberals actually say, a position is invented by conservatives and attributed to liberals so the conservatives can have something to attack.

In regards to (4) it’s undoubtedly truthful that liberals believe that fewer legally owned guns would make America a safer place. This in the light of their desire for lax enforcement of illegal gun possession is a particularly appalling ideal.
Your semantical game aside, the logic completely holds up.

 

[Arkady]

In regards to (4) it’s undoubtedly truthful that liberals believe that fewer legally owned guns would make America a safer place.

Yes, America would certainly be a safer place if there were fewer guns here -- legal and illegal. There's no honest question about that. But the statement was "If confiscating all guns saves just one life, it's worth it". That's obviously a very different claim. This isn't a "semantic game." It's a response to what you actually said. Now, if you want to reel that back, and make some other claim, that's fine.

This in the light of their desire for lax enforcement of illegal gun possession is a particularly appalling ideal.

What makes you think they desire lax enforcement of illegal gun possession?

 

[Dino]

Yes, America would certainly be a safer place if there were fewer guns here -- legal and illegal. There's no honest question about that. But the statement was "If confiscating all guns saves just one life, it's worth it". That's obviously a very different claim. This isn't a "semantic game." It's a response to what you actually said. Now, if you want to reel that back, and make some other claim, that's fine.



What makes you think they desire lax enforcement of illegal gun possession?

Reduction of sentences for people who illegally possess guns. Harsher enforcement and red tape for those trying to legally acquire them.
Both of these actions are taken solely by Liberal politicians.

 

[Arkady]

Reduction of sentences for people who illegally possess guns

There are certainly criminologists who are skeptical about mandatory minimums for illegal gun possession, just based on the failures of such rules to produce positive results when rolled out in the past. But it seems like the big-name Democrats are on board with it, anyway. Take Rahm Emmanuel, for example:

https://newrepublic.com/article/113...ory-minimum-sentences-chicago-and-philadelphi

 

[Dino]

There are certainly criminologists who are skeptical about mandatory minimums for illegal gun possession, just based on the failures of such rules to produce positive results when rolled out in the past. But it seems like the big-name Democrats are on board with it, anyway. Take Rahm Emmanuel, for example:

https://newrepublic.com/article/113...ory-minimum-sentences-chicago-and-philadelphi

There are certainly liberal criminologists as surely as there are liberal politicians.

It certainly doesn't make my opinion wrong, or that of the broad majority of the law enforcement community.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

(1) Isn't it weird that in America, our flag and our culture offend so many people, but our benefits don't?

(2) How can the federal government ask U.S. citizens to pay back student loans, when illegal aliens are receiving a free education?

(3) Only in America are legal citizens labeled "racists" and "Nazis," but illegal aliens are called "Dreamers”.

(4) Liberals say, "If confiscating all guns saves just one life, it's worth it". Well then, if deporting all illegals saves just one life, wouldn't that be worth it?

(5) I can't quite figure out how you can proudly wave the flag of another country, but consider it punishment to be sent back there.

(7) William F. Buckley said: "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other points of view, and are then shocked and offended when they discover there are other points of view."


(10) Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it. (Thomas Sowell)

An Obsolete Aristocratic Institution

What Sowell (and Orwell) means by "intellectual" is a college professor or the graduates whose minds he has permanently mutilated. Socialism and its sects are products of the sheltered university and have no relevance outside the Ivory Tower walls.