http://washingtonexaminer.com/surve...e-hospitals-declining-to-join/article/2539830
"if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"
LIE #987643
"if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"
LIE #987643
Top Hospitals Refuse ObamaCare
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NightSwimmer
Senator
What is it that you imagine "Obamacare" to be?
No American has the luxury of choosing to opt out of obeying the law of the land. PPACA is law. It has already been passed by Congress, signed by the President, and vetted by the Supreme Court. The law is not something that one "signs up" for.
No American has the luxury of choosing to opt out of obeying the law of the land. PPACA is law. It has already been passed by Congress, signed by the President, and vetted by the Supreme Court. The law is not something that one "signs up" for.
4/15
Mayor
Hospitals can bypass on being part of the PPACA as there is no requirement for them to participate. Most that have declined are specialty or research hospitals that are basically privately funded as are the patients. Think of St. Jude Hospital of Danny Thomas. No one pays to go there they are all charity.
NightSwimmer
Senator
Nobody "can bypass on being part of the PPACA". Such a statement is nonsensical. Hospitals may refuse to accept certain insurance policies, but that has nothing to do with the PPACA. That has always been the case and the PPACA did not change that.
NightSwimmer
Senator
The fact is that the PPACA is a very market oriented, private sector friendly legislative package. It did very little to interfere with the private sector insurance market, aside from establishing a handful of minimum standards for new policies and establishing open, competitive marketplaces in the exchanges. The mandate that everyone must be insured is the most significant aspect of the PPACA. Private insurance, however, is still private insurance -- just as it always has been.
It tickles me to see Republicans squalling about the PPACA's lack of features that would be considered overtly Socialist, had they actually been included in the final bill.
It tickles me to see Republicans squalling about the PPACA's lack of features that would be considered overtly Socialist, had they actually been included in the final bill.
evidently with the web site screwed up by Michelle's classmate......they can't sign up......the above hospitals signed-out of ObamaCare..........if it's LAW..........how in hello can 'O' change something about if almost daily.........face it.......it's the 'Otanic'
so why did they wait until ObamaCare to drop out?
4/15
Mayor
I do not understand your question as most research hospitals do not conform to PPACA so they do not drop out they simply do not conform.
If you do not understand the law then maybe you should refrain from commenting!
"refrain from commenting"....you can 86 that thought, I understand few if any understand ObamaCare, hello, 'O' doesn't understand ObamaCare except 's his Tianic........again........86 your don't comment BS☻--------the LAW changes more than you change your underwear.....IMO
it's apparent it is YOU that doesn't understand:
In parts of California, for example, low reimbursement rates have resulted in a doctor rebellion, as nearly seven out of 10 doctors refuse to participate in the exchanges.
San Diego broker Neil Crosby told the Examiner that "65 to 70 percent of the providers have declined the reimbursement schedules the carriers are offering. They will not be providers in the exchange marketplace.”
Similarly, agent David Fear in Sacramento said, "Roughly a third of the doctors are going to be accepted in the networks. I’m finding very few specialists in either the Anthem or Blue Shield networks.”
NightSwimmer
Senator
Buy into the bullshit if it pleases you.
I couldn't care less. I know better than to think that I can educate a stupid person. One can provide information, but one can't provide understanding.
I couldn't care less. I know better than to think that I can educate a stupid person. One can provide information, but one can't provide understanding.
I'm not here to be educated by some 'O' liberal and I'm damn sure not stupid.........I do know I have won the argument with a liberal throws the S card..........☻
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zzigzzag
Guest
The popularity of ACA drops by 10% if you call it "Obamacare".
That's the depth of the average winger's capacity for reason.
That's the depth of the average winger's capacity for reason.
Sgt Staples
Mayor
Obama does and is opting out of obeying the law. It's different for government run doctors or hospitals, but no government can force a private hospital, doctor, or other private medical professi0nal to provide any medical treatment or service and at the same time limit the amount they can earn, if they choose not to.
The only countries that do that are called police states.
Sgt Staples
Mayor
Geez, that doesn't speak too well of El presidente.
By the way, glad to see you survived Thanksgiving. There were so many Turkeys consumed yesterday I was worried about you liberals making it through the day.
LINK
'O' using IRS for those that lose health care insurance and speaks out against ObamaCare..........or is it just cokinkkydinkie.....
http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/11/...e-losing-insurance-obamacare-now-audited-irs/
NightSwimmer
Senator
Never take advice from adults who can't speak proper English.
fairsheet
Senator
No hospitals "conform to PPACA". Insurance companies "conform to PPACA", or not. Even as the likes of St. Jude may receive less of their funding from checks drawn on private insurance company's accounts than some other institutions, you can be pretty darned certain that to them, a dollar from an exchange linked policy spends just as well as one from a non-exhange linked policy.
4/15
Mayor
I live and work in California. My insurance and hospitals are totally in compliance with the PPACA. It is only the greedy people who do not remember the Hippocratic oath that they took.
fairsheet
Senator
I get a kick out of presumptive "free marketeers" who're given to carrying whine-water for those healthcare entities who complain they aren't compensated well enough. They did and do the same, as to the several who think Medicare is "mean" to them.
For as the rest of us know, unless at least some number of providers are complaining about their compensation, the market isn't in function!
