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Trouble In Islamic Paradise?

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The Iranians, perhaps, are not as monolithic as some may have surmised....The Shiites appear to be of a different mindset:


Two leading Israeli security analysts said over the weekend that the US assassination of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani on Thursday night marked a significant blow to the Islamic Republic.

The experts also downplayed the regime’s appetite for direct conflict with the United States and noted that the act could potentially destabilize Iraq, which will then become the major battlefield between Iran and the US.

Writing for Israeli news website Mako, veteran Middle East analyst Ehud Yaari noted, “The most important event of the last day following Soleimani’s assassination is what did not happen: Baghdad’s Shiites did not take to the streets to participate in a funeral procession.”

This demonstrates the crumbling of Iranian influence over Iraqi Shiites, who “have gone to Baghdad’s squares for weeks to protest the government and burn [Iranian Supreme Leader] Khamenei’s and Soleimani’s pictures.”

“It turns out that most Shiites in Iraq are unwilling to join Soleimani’s adulation as a fairy-tale hero and do not want to see Iraq become a battlefield between Iran and the United States,” Yaari posited.

He also pointed out that “most Shiite militias deployed by Iran in Iraq have left the country in recent days for fear of further assassinations by the Americans.”


Full text: https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/01/...-blow-to-iran-regime-will-not-easily-recover/



Interesting turn of events, no?
 
The Iranians, perhaps, are not as monolithic as some may have surmised....The Shiites appear to be of a different mindset:


Two leading Israeli security analysts said over the weekend that the US assassination of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani on Thursday night marked a significant blow to the Islamic Republic.

The experts also downplayed the regime’s appetite for direct conflict with the United States and noted that the act could potentially destabilize Iraq, which will then become the major battlefield between Iran and the US.

Writing for Israeli news website Mako, veteran Middle East analyst Ehud Yaari noted, “The most important event of the last day following Soleimani’s assassination is what did not happen: Baghdad’s Shiites did not take to the streets to participate in a funeral procession.”

This demonstrates the crumbling of Iranian influence over Iraqi Shiites, who “have gone to Baghdad’s squares for weeks to protest the government and burn [Iranian Supreme Leader] Khamenei’s and Soleimani’s pictures.”

“It turns out that most Shiites in Iraq are unwilling to join Soleimani’s adulation as a fairy-tale hero and do not want to see Iraq become a battlefield between Iran and the United States,” Yaari posited.

He also pointed out that “most Shiite militias deployed by Iran in Iraq have left the country in recent days for fear of further assassinations by the Americans.”


Full text: https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/01/...-blow-to-iran-regime-will-not-easily-recover/



Interesting turn of events, no?


Correct. The people know better. There are those who do not wish to be under the thumb of their nutjob leaders. Those at the funeral- were basically like my leftist rent a mobs.
 
Correct. The people know better. There are those who do not wish to be under the thumb of their nutjob leaders. Those at the funeral- were basically like my leftist rent a mobs.

The mullahs would be in deep trouble by now if Trump had not breached the Iran nuke deal. But Trump’s madness has Iranians rallying around the regime.
 
Correct. The people know better. There are those who do not wish to be under the thumb of their nutjob leaders. Those at the funeral- were basically like my leftist rent a mobs.


I imagine that in Iran, where individual liberty is not a major concern, citizens were "encouraged" to attend the state-sponsored funeral.

And chaos resulted:

Stampede at Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani's funeral kills at least 56

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...leimani-funeral-procession-deaths/2830680001/

And there's also the business of the downed Ukrainian civilian aircraft:

Video appears to show missile strike as Canada and UK say they have intel Iran shot down Ukrainian plane

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/is-iran-ukraine-plane/index.html

Not a good look for the Iranian regime, who were quick to deny their missiles had anything to do with it.

They're looking a bit discombobulated at the moment, no?

I imagine they long for the days when the American response would have been to send them pallets of cash.
 
I imagine that in Iran, where individual liberty is not a major concern, citizens were "encouraged" to attend the state-sponsored funeral.

And chaos resulted:

Stampede at Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani's funeral kills at least 56

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...leimani-funeral-procession-deaths/2830680001/

And there's also the business of the downed Ukrainian civilian aircraft:

Video appears to show missile strike as Canada and UK say they have intel Iran shot down Ukrainian plane

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/is-iran-ukraine-plane/index.html

Not a good look for the Iranian regime, who were quick to deny their missiles had anything to do with it.

They're looking a bit discombobulated at the moment, no?

I imagine they long for the days when the American response would have been to send them pallets of cash.

You figure that the regime was “taking attendance”?

;-)
 
Translation: Trump gins up a war with Iran, with full support of us Trump cultists, and we claim it’s Trump’s opponents who want the war. Weird, right? It’s just how we Trumplandian trolls roll.

;-)
You do understand that the OP was very specifically about the demonstrated divide between Iraqi Shiites and Iranian Shiites, correct? And every single downstream response you have made provides NO treatment of that subject matter. You have strictly trolled this thread.
 
I imagine that in Iran, where individual liberty is not a major concern, citizens were "encouraged" to attend the state-sponsored funeral.

And chaos resulted:

Stampede at Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani's funeral kills at least 56

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...leimani-funeral-procession-deaths/2830680001/

And there's also the business of the downed Ukrainian civilian aircraft:

Video appears to show missile strike as Canada and UK say they have intel Iran shot down Ukrainian plane

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/is-iran-ukraine-plane/index.html

Not a good look for the Iranian regime, who were quick to deny their missiles had anything to do with it.

They're looking a bit discombobulated at the moment, no?

I imagine they long for the days when the American response would have been to send them pallets of cash.

They covering up evidence

https://www.businessinsider.co.za/i...jet-crash-site-complicate-investigation-2020-
 
You do understand that the OP was very specifically about the demonstrated divide between Iraqi Shiites and Iranian Shiites, correct? And every single downstream response you have made provides NO treatment of that subject matter. You have strictly trolled this thread.

It’s bad enough that Trump’s madness is exacerbating Shiite vs. Sunni strife, but you contend that he’s also pitting Shiites against each other? That would hardly be an achievement but I don’t think it’s true. It’s not surprising that Iranian Shiites are more outraged than Iraqi Shiites.
 
It’s bad enough that Trump’s madness is exacerbating Shiite vs. Sunni strife, but you contend that he’s also pitting Shiites against each other? That would hardly be an achievement but I don’t think it’s true. It’s not surprising that Iranian Shiites are more outraged than Iraqi Shiites.
Take it up with the article. It cited a couple of real-world data points, one of which was post-Soleimani. And nowhere did it frame this as "an achievement"...just conditions on the ground, perhaps (I'm certainly no expert on the matter).
 
Take it up with the article. It cited a couple of real-world data points, one of which was post-Soleimani. And nowhere did it frame this as "an achievement"...just conditions on the ground, perhaps (I'm certainly no expert on the matter).

It’s all just blather. Shiites remain undivided.
 
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