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Trump attacks unions....on Labor Day

Trump's whacky Labor Day tweets:

Trump sent a flurry of tweets throughout the day on Monday covering a range of subjects. He celebrated Labor Day, attacked a top union leader, blasted John Kerry's refusal to rule out a 2020 presidential run and attacked Attorney General Jeff Sessions over charges filed last month against two Republican congressmen.

The man is cray.

It was a particularly insane day of Trump tweets, capped off by his doozy bashing Sessions and the DOJ for indicting two GOP congressmen.

Highly frowned upon in the Banana Republic of Trumplandia!

;-)
 
Nicholas Kristof, New York Times, 2-19-15:

Like many Americans, I’ve been wary of labor unions.

Full-time union stagehands at Carnegie Hall earning more than $400,000 a year? A union hailing its defense of a New York teacher who smelled of alcohol and passed out in class, with even the principal unable to rouse her? A police union in New York City that has a tantrum and goes on virtual strike?

More broadly, I disdained unions as bringing corruption, nepotism and rigid work rules to the labor market, impeding the economic growth that ultimately makes a country strong.

I was wrong.

The abuses are real. But, as unions wane in American life, it’s also increasingly clear that they were doing a lot of good in sustaining middle class life — especially the private-sector unions that are now dwindling.

Most studies suggest that about one-fifth of the increase in economic inequality in America among men in recent decades is the result of the decline in unions. It may be more: A study in the American Sociological Review, using the broadest methodology, estimates that the decline of unions may account for one-third of the rise of inequality among men.

“To understand the rising inequality, you have to understand the devastation in the labor movement,” says Jake Rosenfeld, a labor expert at the University of Washington and the author of “What Unions No Longer Do.”

Take construction workers. A full-time construction worker earns about $10,000 less per year now than in 1973, in today’s dollars, according to Rosenfeld. One reason is probably that the proportion who are unionized has fallen in that period from more than 40 percent to just 14 percent.

“All the focus on labor’s flaws can distract us from the bigger picture,” Rosenfeld writes. “For generations now the labor movement has stood as the most prominent and effective voice for economic justice.”

I’m as appalled as anyone by silly work rules and $400,000 stagehands, or teachers’ unions shielding the incompetent. But unions also lobby for programs like universal prekindergarten that help create broad-based prosperity. They are pushing for a higher national minimum wage, even though that would directly benefit mostly nonunionized workers.

I’ve also changed my mind because, in recent years, the worst abuses by far haven’t been in the union shop but in the corporate suite. One of the things you learn as a journalist is that when there’s no accountability, we humans are capable of tremendous avarice and venality. That’s true of union bosses — and of corporate tycoons. Unions, even flawed ones, can provide checks and balances for flawed corporations.

Many Americans think unions drag down the economy over all, but scholars disagree. American auto unions are often mentioned, but Germany’s car workers have a strong union, and so do Toyota’s in Japan and Kia’s in South Korea.

In Germany, the average autoworker earns about $67 per hour in salary and benefits, compared with $34 in the United States. Yet Germany’s car companies in 2010 produced more than twice as many vehicles as American companies did, and they were highly profitable. It’s too glib to say that the problem in the American sector was just unions.

Or look at American history. The peak years for unions were the 1940s and ’50s, which were also some of the fastest-growing years for the United States ever — and with broadly shared prosperity. Historically, the periods when union membership were highest were those when inequality was least.

Richard B. Freeman, a Harvard labor expert, notes that unions sometimes bring important benefits to industry: They can improve morale, reduce turnover and provide a channel to suggest productivity improvements.

Experts disagree about how this all balances out, but it’s clear that it’s not a major drag. “If you’re looking for big negatives, everybody knows they don’t exist,” Professor Freeman said.

Joseph Stiglitz notes in his book “The Price of Inequality” that when unions were strong in America, productivity and real hourly compensation moved together in manufacturing. But after 1980 (and especially after 2000) the link seemed to break and real wages stagnated.

It may be that as unions weakened, executives sometimes grabbed the gains from productivity. Perhaps that helps explain why chief executives at big companies earned, on average, 20 times as much as the typical worker in 1965, and 296 times as much in 2013, according to the Economic Policy Institute.

Lawrence F. Katz, a Harvard labor economist, raises concerns about some aspects of public-sector unions, but he says that in the private sector (where only 7 percent of workers are now unionized): “I think we’ve gone too far in de-unionization.”

He’s right. This isn’t something you often hear a columnist say, but I’ll say it again: I was wrong. At least in the private sector, we should strengthen unions, not try to eviscerate them.
 
TRUMP HATES UNIONS = 21% hate unions

Trump plays that base like a fiddle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Trump Tweets it, the righties defend immediately - who cares about personal beliefs.
 
Nicholas Kristof, New York Times, 2-19-15:

Like many Americans, I’ve been wary of labor unions.

Full-time union stagehands at Carnegie Hall earning more than $400,000 a year? A union hailing its defense of a New York teacher who smelled of alcohol and passed out in class, with even the principal unable to rouse her? A police union in New York City that has a tantrum and goes on virtual strike?

More broadly, I disdained unions as bringing corruption, nepotism and rigid work rules to the labor market, impeding the economic growth that ultimately makes a country strong.

I was wrong.

The abuses are real. But, as unions wane in American life, it’s also increasingly clear that they were doing a lot of good in sustaining middle class life — especially the private-sector unions that are now dwindling.

Most studies suggest that about one-fifth of the increase in economic inequality in America among men in recent decades is the result of the decline in unions. It may be more: A study in the American Sociological Review, using the broadest methodology, estimates that the decline of unions may account for one-third of the rise of inequality among men.

“To understand the rising inequality, you have to understand the devastation in the labor movement,” says Jake Rosenfeld, a labor expert at the University of Washington and the author of “What Unions No Longer Do.”

Take construction workers. A full-time construction worker earns about $10,000 less per year now than in 1973, in today’s dollars, according to Rosenfeld. One reason is probably that the proportion who are unionized has fallen in that period from more than 40 percent to just 14 percent.

“All the focus on labor’s flaws can distract us from the bigger picture,” Rosenfeld writes. “For generations now the labor movement has stood as the most prominent and effective voice for economic justice.”

I’m as appalled as anyone by silly work rules and $400,000 stagehands, or teachers’ unions shielding the incompetent. But unions also lobby for programs like universal prekindergarten that help create broad-based prosperity. They are pushing for a higher national minimum wage, even though that would directly benefit mostly nonunionized workers.

I’ve also changed my mind because, in recent years, the worst abuses by far haven’t been in the union shop but in the corporate suite. One of the things you learn as a journalist is that when there’s no accountability, we humans are capable of tremendous avarice and venality. That’s true of union bosses — and of corporate tycoons. Unions, even flawed ones, can provide checks and balances for flawed corporations.

Many Americans think unions drag down the economy over all, but scholars disagree. American auto unions are often mentioned, but Germany’s car workers have a strong union, and so do Toyota’s in Japan and Kia’s in South Korea.

In Germany, the average autoworker earns about $67 per hour in salary and benefits, compared with $34 in the United States. Yet Germany’s car companies in 2010 produced more than twice as many vehicles as American companies did, and they were highly profitable. It’s too glib to say that the problem in the American sector was just unions.

Or look at American history. The peak years for unions were the 1940s and ’50s, which were also some of the fastest-growing years for the United States ever — and with broadly shared prosperity. Historically, the periods when union membership were highest were those when inequality was least.

Richard B. Freeman, a Harvard labor expert, notes that unions sometimes bring important benefits to industry: They can improve morale, reduce turnover and provide a channel to suggest productivity improvements.

Experts disagree about how this all balances out, but it’s clear that it’s not a major drag. “If you’re looking for big negatives, everybody knows they don’t exist,” Professor Freeman said.

Joseph Stiglitz notes in his book “The Price of Inequality” that when unions were strong in America, productivity and real hourly compensation moved together in manufacturing. But after 1980 (and especially after 2000) the link seemed to break and real wages stagnated.

It may be that as unions weakened, executives sometimes grabbed the gains from productivity. Perhaps that helps explain why chief executives at big companies earned, on average, 20 times as much as the typical worker in 1965, and 296 times as much in 2013, according to the Economic Policy Institute.

Lawrence F. Katz, a Harvard labor economist, raises concerns about some aspects of public-sector unions, but he says that in the private sector (where only 7 percent of workers are now unionized): “I think we’ve gone too far in de-unionization.”

He’s right. This isn’t something you often hear a columnist say, but I’ll say it again: I was wrong. At least in the private sector, we should strengthen unions, not try to eviscerate them.

Yup. It’s quite simple.

Those who want the already massive wealth gap to grow yet wider should oppose unions. And vice-versa.
 
Oh, sure, you can say he was only attacking union leader Trumka, but he could've said SOMETHING positive about unions. Did he?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ts-back-at-largest-union-leader-idUSKCN1LJ1H1

Wow...……….Really?
"Trump attacks unions....on Labor Day".
THAT is the very best idea you came up with to top post about a Trump tweet addressed at one leader? Seriously?

Oh, but you DID later add some shi t about how , "you can say he was only attacking union leader...", right? (of course you "could", he WAS), but hey, lets not let actual words mess up a good Hate-Trump rant, huh?

A feeble-assed, at BEST, attempt to try to justify lying about your President, dearheart.

But all anyone actually expects coming from you, so...……


One of your liberal cohorts said in another post when trying to defend illegal immigrant murders, "It is not that they don’t have a right to be here, it’s that the government has no right to keep them out. “They” didn’t murder anyone ... one guy did. "

Hope he comes on here and informs YOU, a sister in hate of the same thing. Trump didn't actually "attack" THEM, he argued back against a "HIM". So just in case your dem/lib friend has a bout of selective moral outrage here and neglects to inform you that there is a difference in the same manner he felt compelled to do to others earlier......I'll do it for the two of you.

Words have actual, agreed upon meanings. Look into it. You can't hear or see something and turn around and stat it means something other than what it actually SAYS. No, not even if you think it will somehow justify your insane hatred and no, not even if you really, really, I do mean REALLY want it to mean something it does not.

Sorry. I know that must sting.
 
Words have actual, agreed upon meanings. Look into it. You can't hear or see something and turn around and stat it means something other than what it actually SAYS.
Well, like, yeah, unless, like, its a Republican president who said it. Because, like, Republicans, y'know, and, like, dog-whistles and racism and, like, stuff. :)
 
I disagree. And I have the freedom to do so thanks to unions.
Since when did unions give you freedom of speech? Or give you the right to agree or disagree? I'm pretty sure they have NOTHING to do with those things. I worked in a union once and never would again. People should have a choice of what party their money gets donated to, but they dont. Unions have always given to the Dems. My opinion is, unions were needed to make sure employers treated workers fairly and paid a fair wage. With all the labor laws we have now and employers want good workers so the pay and benefits are much better than they've ever been....why give your money to a bunch of money grubbing [Unwelcome language removed]?
 
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