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Trump isn't a leader.

Halo

Halo

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He's a follower.

Everything he ever said or felt was said and felt on the internet before him. So he isn't a thought leader he's just the guy with the balls to enter the arena and that is more important. Large swaths of America say and feel the same way. They weren't convinced to say or feel something. They came to it themselves long before Trump. They had to really if you think about it.

So the fact is they don't hate Trump, they hate Americans who believe in nation states over globalism. That is the distillation of it.
 
Halo said:
He's a follower.

Everything he ever said or felt was said and felt on the internet before him. So he isn't a thought leader he's just the guy with the balls to enter the arena and that is more important. Large swaths of America say and feel the same way. They weren't convinced to say or feel something. They came to it themselves long before Trump. They had to really if you think about it.

So the fact is they don't hate Trump, they hate Americans who believe in nation states over globalism. That is the distillation of it.
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They have turned him into a symbol, if he gets back to the White House (assuming they don't kill him) they will have nobody to blame but themselves.

Of course, if you can rig a trial, like this one, you can certainly rig an election (just like the last one).
 
Sickofleft said:
They have turned him into a symbol, if he gets back to the White House (assuming they don't kill him) they will have nobody to blame but themselves.

Of course, if you can rig a trial, like this one, you can certainly rig an election (just like the last one).
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The hatred seems to be - The democrat party being run by radical, weird females. Look wherever you turn. From Media, Advisors, 'influencers' to Congress. These are NOT the brightest women Democrats have to offer. And they buy into wokeness, transing kids, irrational hatred.

Basically, this country is run by the TV show- The View. lol

What I do not understand is the urgency. Had Trump won in 2020- his term would be ending soon, and we move on from him.

Is the Democrat/Republican/globalist platform SO fragile that it can't handle 4 years ?

I'll never understand it. But the mistake was Obama.

Obama should have been put on the back burner- Hillary in 2008/12. THEN Obama. That happens- Trump never becomes president.
 
BlueNY22 said:
The hatred seems to be - The democrat party being run by radical, weird females. Look wherever you turn. From Media, Advisors, 'influencers' to Congress. These are NOT the brightest women Democrats have to offer. And they buy into wokeness, transing kids, irrational hatred.

Basically, this country is run by the TV show- The View. lol

What I do not understand is the urgency. Had Trump won in 2020- his term would be ending soon, and we move on from him.

Is the Democrat/Republican/globalist platform SO fragile that it can't handle 4 years ?

I'll never understand it. But the mistake was Obama.

Obama should have been put on the back burner- Hillary in 2008/12. THEN Obama. That happens- Trump never becomes president.
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Apparently not, having someone who was from outside the "Washington System" was not something they could handle, so yes it is that fragile.

As for Obama, he should be held responsible for all of this really, it was him that originally weaponized the FBI, IRS and intelligence agencies against his political opponents. Also, while he was President (a terrible one) Democrats across the country lost their jobs, thousands of them were voted out office from Congress to State legislatures.

Those people were the center of the Democrat party, they are now gone and over time the far left has filled in.
 
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Halo said:
He's a follower.

Everything he ever said or felt was said and felt on the internet before him. So he isn't a thought leader he's just the guy with the balls to enter the arena and that is more important. Large swaths of America say and feel the same way. They weren't convinced to say or feel something. They came to it themselves long before Trump. They had to really if you think about it.

So the fact is they don't hate Trump, they hate Americans who believe in nation states over globalism. That is the distillation of it.
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Trump sucks. His cowardice in the face of statist COVID lunacy, his rampant nepotism in cabinet and/or advisory roles, his abject incapacity to restrain his baser instincts - whether manifesting in his vitriolic tongue or his dalliances and indulgences, etc.

The best thing he did was to serve to unveil the unbridled FILTH that IS leftism/Democrats. They are every bad quality Trump has x 1,000. Their unmasking made even the disgusting Trump palatable to tens of millions by comparison.
 
RickWA said:
Trump sucks. His cowardice in the face of statist COVID lunacy, his rampant nepotism in cabinet and/or advisory roles, his abject incapacity to restrain his baser instincts - whether manifesting in his vitriolic tongue or his dalliances and indulgences, etc.

The best thing he did was to serve to unveil the unbridled FILTH that IS leftism/Democrats. They are every bad quality Trump has x 1,000. Their unmasking made even the disgusting Trump palatable to tens of millions by comparison.
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Your high moral standards will never be met by anyone other than yourself.
 
Sickofleft said:
They have turned him into a symbol, if he gets back to the White House (assuming they don't kill him) they will have nobody to blame but themselves.

Of course, if you can rig a trial, like this one, you can certainly rig an election (just like the last one).
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Irony is they have to live with him some more. At this point if they hadn't stolen the election Trump would be riding off into the sunset and they could have picked up where they left off. Their usual generational patience ran out. Wonder why?
 
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