Trump writes law banning bump stocks. He has no authority to do this.

[make speed limit 45]

You want a law passed go to congress. The constitution says "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states. " Trump can't write laws and neither can the supreme court or the attorney general or BATF. But they do it all the time and call it an "interpretation".

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-directs-justice-department-211146879.html

feb 20m 2018 President Donald Trump announced he has ordered Attorney General Jeff Sessions to take steps to ban bump stocks, the type of gun modification that Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock used to kill 58 people in October.

“Just a few moments ago, I signed a memorandum directing the attorney general to propose regulations to ban all devices that turn legal weapons into machine guns,” Trump said Tuesday while speaking at a medal of valor ceremony at the White House. “I expect that these critical regulations will be finalized ... very soon.”

In 2010 and again in 2012, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ruled that it did not have the authority to regulate bump stocks because they are not technically “machine guns,” which federal law defines as firearms that shoot more than one shot per pull of the trigger. As an executive agency, the ATF can’t officially make new laws. Instead, it’s limited to interpreting and enforcing acts of Congress ― in this case, gun control laws passed in 1934 and 1968.

 

[ObamacareForever]

You want a law passed go to congress. The constitution says "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states. " Trump can't write laws and neither can the supreme court or the attorney general or BATF. But they do it all the time and call it an "interpretation".

Never in my life have I thought higher of Trump.

 

[Zam-Zam]

You want a law passed go to congress. The constitution says "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states. " Trump can't write laws and neither can the supreme court or the attorney general or BATF. But they do it all the time and call it an "interpretation".

He didn't author any legislation, he authored a memo:

President Trump on Tuesday directed Attorney General Jeff Sessions to craft new regulations to ban firearm modifiers including the “bump stock” used in the Las Vegas massacre, amid bipartisan calls to strengthen gun laws in the wake of recent shooting rampages.

During an event at the White House, the president announced he signed a memo ordering the regulations on “bump stocks” and told Sessions he wants new federal guidelines finalized “very soon.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/20/trump-urges-ban-on-bump-stocks-other-gun-modifiers.html

Which, of course, he has the authority to do. Whether that's good or bad is up for debate, but the fact that he can is not.

This appears to be a different approach than the previous administration took:

The NRA said, "The Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions."

We indeed found two occasions in which ATF, a bureau within the executive branch, decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.

These decisions allowed two companies to sell bump stocks. It’s important to note this was not a statement of Obama’s preferred policy, which called for more regulation of guns, but was what the agency determined it had to do under the language of current law.

We rate this statement Mostly True.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ciation/nra-claim-obama-approved-bump-stocks/


The more you know......

 

[make speed limit 45]

He didn't author any legislation, he authored a memo:

President Trump on Tuesday directed Attorney General Jeff Sessions to craft new regulations to ban firearm modifiers including the “bump stock” used in the Las Vegas massacre, amid bipartisan calls to strengthen gun laws in the wake of recent shooting rampages.

During an event at the White House, the president announced he signed a memo ordering the regulations on “bump stocks” and told Sessions he wants new federal guidelines finalized “very soon.

The attorney general has no authority to write laws either. THINK

 

[Arkady]

You want a law passed go to congress. The constitution says "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states. " Trump can't write laws and neither can the supreme court or the attorney general or BATF. But they do it all the time and call it an "interpretation".

Legislation can authorize he executive branch to promulgate regulations along certain lines. That’s how regulations work.

 

[freyasman]

It's posturing; nothing will actually be done. The AG will tell him the same thing the previous administration was told, these devices do nothing to change the mechanical function of the firearm.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

You want a law passed go to congress. The constitution says "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states. " Trump can't write laws and neither can the supreme court or the attorney general or BATF. But they do it all the time and call it an "interpretation".

Please. It’s just another Trump flim-flam.

The ATF will say it needs legislation to ban bump stocks, the GOP Congress will refuse to provide it, and the status quo will remain.

 

[Dawg]

Please. It’s just another Trump flim-flam.

The ATF will say it needs legislation to ban bump stocks, the GOP Congress will refuse to provide it, and the status quo will remain.

So, why is Trump proposing raising the age when someone can buy an AR-15?

The flim-flam artist is YOU and Trump makes YOU look like an idiot every day.

I can do the same thing with an AR w/out bump stock...........as bump stock does......you should give both a try

 

[trapdoor]

Because of the NFA 1935, certain things can be "scheduled" as controllable weapons. They did it with body armor some time ago. The scheduled items can then be put on a list to be regulated as controlled items (including not allowing them at all) by BATFE (which has moved from the Department of Revenue to the Department of Homeland Security). Such regulations can be challenged in Congress, but I don't think Congress has ever overturned one, at least not so far. So looked at from a shear legal standpoint, the president can do this although I don't know what it would look like if he attempted to schedule, for example, every semiautomatic rifle in the U.S.
I think it's more a move of politics than anything -- Trump is throwing the protesters a bone because most gun owners see the bump stock as a useless range toy, and don't care if they are banned or not.

 

[make speed limit 45]

Legislation can authorize he executive branch to promulgate regulations along certain lines. That’s how regulations work.

No they can't. The constitution says "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states." If congress wants to give some of it's legislative power to another agency, then that must be done by a constitutional amendment. THINK

 

[make speed limit 45]

Please. It’s just another Trump flim-flam.

The ATF will say it needs legislation to ban bump stocks, the GOP Congress will refuse to provide it, and the status quo will remain.

Let's hope so. Bump stocks are a nothingburger.

 

[Arkady]

No they can't. The constitution says "all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states."

The idea that Congress may delegate areas of rule-making to the agencies of the Executive Branch is a concept much older than you or I. It's hard to imagine running a large modern nation without such a structure. Think about it -- if Congress had to pass every single rule themselves, rather than delegate areas of decision-making to administrative experts, members of Congress would effectively need to become experts on everything. Picture, for example, if one day Congress needed to be experts about a particular type of soil issue in a particular region (rather than counting on the Department of Agriculture to do the detailed rule-making), and the next they needed to be experts on exactly how carrier landings get done (rather than counting on the Department of the Navy to come up with such procedures), and the next they needed to be experts on how air traffic control works (rather than letting the FAA decide, for example, which particular types of planes can use which particular routes., and then they need to be experts on how electric infrastructure is handled (rather than counting on FERC to decide things like what standards there will be regarding sales of bulk power into the grid). And so on. It just wouldn't work. So, Congress makes statutes that set out basic rules and areas of responsibility, and then has the regulatory agencies do the detailed work, at a level where real expertise can exist.

If congress wants to give some of it's legislative power to another agency, then that must be done by a constitutional amendment. THINK

That's not how it's been done in this country for pretty much the entirety of our history, thank goodness.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Because of the NFA 1935, certain things can be "scheduled" as controllable weapons. They did it with body armor some time ago. The scheduled items can then be put on a list to be regulated as controlled items (including not allowing them at all) by BATFE (which has moved from the Department of Revenue to the Department of Homeland Security). Such regulations can be challenged in Congress, but I don't think Congress has ever overturned one, at least not so far. So looked at from a shear legal standpoint, the president can do this although I don't know what it would look like if he attempted to schedule, for example, every semiautomatic rifle in the U.S.
I think it's more a move of politics than anything -- Trump is throwing the protesters a bone because most gun owners see the bump stock as a useless range toy, and don't care if they are banned or not.

He’s not even throwing gun control proponents a bone. He’s waving the bone around without throwing it.

 

[freyasman]

He’s not even throwing gun control proponents a bone. He’s waving the bone around without throwing it.

Well they're all pretty stupid, they will most likely fall for it.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Well they're all pretty stupid, they will most likely fall for it.

The mindset of the Trump sycophant - don’t criticize the conman. Criticize the recipients of the con.

;-)

 

[freyasman]

The mindset of the Trump sycophant - don’t criticize the conman. Criticize the recipients of the con.

;-)

 

[Zam-Zam]

The attorney general has no authority to write laws either. THINK

You wrote this in your subject header:

Trump writes law banning bump stocks.

That information was inaccurate, and required correction, and that's what I did.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

No need to repeat your criticism of the victims of conmen. Your support for conmen has already been noted.

 

[freyasman]

No need to repeat your criticism of the victims of conmen. Your support for conmen has already been noted.

Have you noticed your own tendency to relate to, and sympathize with, the dumbest, the most gullible, the most used, the least productive, and the weakest idiots in our society?
Have you noticed this about yourself? Because I have noticed it about you.
Just saying....

 

[make speed limit 45]

The idea that Congress may delegate areas of rule-making to the agencies of the Executive Branch is a concept much older than you or I. It's hard to imagine running a large modern nation without such a structure. 's been done in this country for pretty much the entirety of our history, thank goodness.

Then amend the constitution to allow it. Until then, faceless bureaucrats should not be allowed to write laws. THINK