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Unbelievable, but absolutely true.

Boltlady

Boltlady

Governor
It happened today.

My daughter-in-law called me this morning because she was possibly going to need a ride to go and get her car. As it turned out, she got a different ride but kept me informed of the goings on. Her ne'er-do-well, 20 year old son had taken her car and her credit card and was in jail in Virginia Beach. With all that ultimately happened I don't even remember what he wound up being charged with, but he was drinking (underage), had open beer bottles in the car and was wanting her to bail him out.

As the story unfolds keep in mind that she lives in Chesapeake and he was in VB. Chesapeake and VB both are many miles across even though the population isn't that heavy. It can be quite a trip going all the way across both.

So she got out to VB with no intention of bailing him out, but she seriously wanted and needed her car and credit card. They told her that she couldn't have either because it was property that was confiscated with him and she would need for him to sign papers saying that she could have them. They wouldn't even tell her where her car was. Understand that the credit card has her picture on it and she had the registration for the car which is in her name. Clearance had to be arranged with the magistrate who wouldn't be in until noon or after. So she went back home to wait.

Later when she called the magistrate he told her that he couldn't release the stuff because she hadn't actually reported it stolen. She did convince him to tell her where the car was and found out it had been left in a Walgreens' parking lot. She called them and explained what happened so that they wouldn't tow it away. No, she didn't have another key besides the one that was being held in VB. She was also able to find out that her son had used her credit card 3 times to buy beer and booze at some bar. Keep in mind that he was underage and the credit card had her picture on it.

Her friend then took her to the magistrate in Chesapeake to file charges so that she could get her things back. He found it hard to believe that VB was refusing to release her property and he personally called them and asked them to let her have it. He did convince her to file lesser charges on the theft so that it wouldn't be a felony since her son is so young.

She then went all the way back to VB, (we are talking from one end of one city to the other end of the other), to get her car key and credit card. They still insisted that her son had to agree to sign papers to release them to her, which he did. The last I heard from her, she and the friend were out trying to find the Walgreens where she was told the car was at. The son is still in jail.

The friend missed part of her days' work and my daughter-in-law will reimburse her for a lot of gas since there was a lot of mileage involved. This is the same daughter-in-law who has battled cancer for months and still has been too sick to hold down a job. This wasn't how she needed to spend her day. Who would have thought that it would have been so tricky to get her very own property back!
 
I posted it because most people really have no idea of how crazy it's all getting to be. I told my daughter-in-law that she was lucky that they didn't arrest her for being upset about it all.
 
Why does she only have one set of keys for her car? Sorry, but as she knows by now, that's dumb!

As for the other stuff that Virginia Beach was refusing to release because she didn't report it stolen, they gave her the solution: report it stolen. Because it was.

And as for the rest of it, he's on his own. He can rot in jail, the lowlife. Maybe this will straighten him out.
 
OK Patrick, I'm not sure why she was down to one key, she may have another someplace but didn't think she'd need it. As for the stuff being reported stolen, that's why they then drove all the way out to the magistrate in Chesapeake because that's where she lives. When she first went to VB she didn't think all that would be necessary since she did have the car registration in her name and the credit card was obviously not his since it had her name and picture on it. That still didn't stop them from requiring him to sign to release it even after she reported it stolen and it obviously didn't belong to him to start with.
 
There are all manner of ways the VB authorities could end up on the hook, for releasing the car to the wrong person. It's "nice" that you know your daughter-in-law to be a wonderous person. But of course, the VB authorities don't know her like you do.

So....the VB authorities appear to be putting the onus for her sack-o-shit son on her. A lot of the rest of us - to include liberal Democrats such as I, kinda like it that way. She was inconvenienced by her son. Better her, than the rest of us. She'll get over it. And....maybe she can take the issue up with her son.
 
which part of it is the crazy part? is it safe to assume that it's the magistrate that's the irksome part?
 
fairsheet said:
There are all manner of ways the VB authorities could end up on the hook, for releasing the car to the wrong person. It's "nice" that you know your daughter-in-law to be a wonderous person. But of course, the VB authorities don't know her like you do.

So....the VB authorities appear to be putting the onus for her sack-o-$#@! son on her. A lot of the rest of us - to include liberal Democrats such as I, kinda like it that way. She was inconvenienced by her son. Better her, than the rest of us. She'll get over it. And....maybe she can take the issue up with her son.
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She is having a restraining order put on her son to try and keep him away from the house. She had already tried to get him to leave a number of times because he's very disruptive and she has had quite a battle with all of the cancer treatments.

She thought as I would have thought that providing proof of ownership of the items would have been sufficient. It was a day of frustration and a lot of mileage. For you to say that the onus was best put on her was a rather insensitive thing to say.
 
Boltlady said:
She is having a restraining order put on her son to try and keep him away from the house. She had already tried to get him to leave a number of times because he's very disruptive and she has had quite a battle with all of the cancer treatments.

She thought as I would have thought that providing proof of ownership of the items would have been sufficient. It was a day of frustration and a lot of mileage. For you to say that the onus was best put on her was a rather insensitive thing to say.
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I should clarify that I sympathize with her plight. Over the years, I've dealt with plights of my own. But, it's a stretch to suggest that the rest of society is supposed to necessarily "feel our pain". The easiest thing would've been for the police to just hand the car over to her. They didn't refuse to do so, out of meaness or incompetence. They did so, out of bad experiences past.
 
Boltlady said:
It happened today.

My daughter-in-law called me this morning because she was possibly going to need a ride to go and get her car. As it turned out, she got a different ride but kept me informed of the goings on. Her ne'er-do-well, 20 year old son had taken her car and her credit card and was in jail in Virginia Beach. With all that ultimately happened I don't even remember what he wound up being charged with, but he was drinking (underage), had open beer bottles in the car and was wanting her to bail him out.

As the story unfolds keep in mind that she lives in Chesapeake and he was in VB. Chesapeake and VB both are many miles across even though the population isn't that heavy. It can be quite a trip going all the way across both.

So she got out to VB with no intention of bailing him out, but she seriously wanted and needed her car and credit card. They told her that she couldn't have either because it was property that was confiscated with him and she would need for him to sign papers saying that she could have them. They wouldn't even tell her where her car was. Understand that the credit card has her picture on it and she had the registration for the car which is in her name. Clearance had to be arranged with the magistrate who wouldn't be in until noon or after. So she went back home to wait.

Later when she called the magistrate he told her that he couldn't release the stuff because she hadn't actually reported it stolen. She did convince him to tell her where the car was and found out it had been left in a Walgreens' parking lot. She called them and explained what happened so that they wouldn't tow it away. No, she didn't have another key besides the one that was being held in VB. She was also able to find out that her son had used her credit card 3 times to buy beer and booze at some bar. Keep in mind that he was underage and the credit card had her picture on it.

Her friend then took her to the magistrate in Chesapeake to file charges so that she could get her things back. He found it hard to believe that VB was refusing to release her property and he personally called them and asked them to let her have it. He did convince her to file lesser charges on the theft so that it wouldn't be a felony since her son is so young.

She then went all the way back to VB, (we are talking from one end of one city to the other end of the other), to get her car key and credit card. They still insisted that her son had to agree to sign papers to release them to her, which he did. The last I heard from her, she and the friend were out trying to find the Walgreens where she was told the car was at. The son is still in jail.

The friend missed part of her days' work and my daughter-in-law will reimburse her for a lot of gas since there was a lot of mileage involved. This is the same daughter-in-law who has battled cancer for months and still has been too sick to hold down a job. This wasn't how she needed to spend her day. Who would have thought that it would have been so tricky to get her very own property back!
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Ms. Bolt,

It's not that unbelievable. You seem to be a reasonable, intelligent person, and I would assume you would raise a reasonable intelligent daughter, but even reasonable people may meet some ne'er do well to sire their kids, and his values likely could be passed on to her kids. Even if that is not true, you can't live your kids lives for them, and sometimes they go astray.
 
So sorry Boltlady. Poor daughter in law. Do her troubles never end ?

The law is a bloody ass xxxx

It is an odd thing I have found though that often when we have inner tumoills we are, at he same time, 'given' physical or practical turmoils which somehow in an odd way help us fight through or keep sane ...in an odd way.
 
ya-ta-hey, it was my daughter-in-law and the son in question was one she had from a previous marriage. The young man's father lives in Ohio and is pretty much a nut case. The boy has been a real handful all of his life. Some things do get inherited.
 
What a sad tale.

I sincerely hope your Daughter-in-Law recovers, and all is well.

As for this entire story, a few points:

#1. The American Legal system makes absolutely NO sense. Expecting it to actually "work for the people" is expecting WAAAAAY TOOO MUCH. "Common Sense" is not in their equation (In fact, I think it may be ILLEGAL). That said, I can guarentee that if she had know a judge, or a local politician, both the car and the credit card would have been released IMMEDIATELY.

#2. Sounds to me, as if the Police were kind of "pushing" for a charge. They had her son for underage drinking, and, perhaps, DUI or PD, but, obviously, they wanted MORE charges to level at him. I can't say why.

#3. As for the idiots selling him booze with his mother's credit card, one explanation: MONEY. (However, I have to wonder if she could not work with the police, and hold these establishments responsible for selling Alchohol to an underage person. After all, they have the Credit Card Receipts...???)

#4. Sounds like her son could use a few days in the slammer. He needs to grow up, and fast...
 
Doc said:
What a sad tale.

I sincerely hope your Daughter-in-Law recovers, and all is well.

As for this entire story, a few points:

#1. The American Legal system makes absolutely NO sense. Expecting it to actually "work for the people" is expecting WAAAAAY TOOO MUCH. "Common Sense" is not in their equation (In fact, I think it may be ILLEGAL). That said, I can guarentee that if she had know a judge, or a local politician, both the car and the credit card would have been released IMMEDIATELY.

#2. Sounds to me, as if the Police were kind of "pushing" for a charge. They had her son for underage drinking, and, perhaps, DUI or PD, but, obviously, they wanted MORE charges to level at him. I can't say why.

#3. As for the idiots selling him booze with his mother's credit card, one explanation: MONEY. (However, I have to wonder if she could not work with the police, and hold these establishments responsible for selling Alchohol to an underage person. After all, they have the Credit Card Receipts...???)

#4. Sounds like her son could use a few days in the slammer. He needs to grow up, and fast...
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Occasionally I agree with you Doc, and this is one of those times. She definitely plans to go after the establishment that took her credit card to sell to an underage buyer.

BTW, that car is the ONLY car the family has. She has not been able to work for many months now and finances are VERY tight. Hopefully her son will realize that he's someplace that he doesn't want to go back to.
 
Boltlady said:
Occasionally I agree with you Doc, and this is one of those times. She definitely plans to go after the establishment that took her credit card to sell to an underage buyer.

BTW, that car is the ONLY car the family has. She has not been able to work for many months now and finances are VERY tight. Hopefully her son will realize that he's someplace that he doesn't want to go back to.
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HOPEFULLY, he will realize that his family needs his help, and step up.

I say she gets an attorney, works with the police, and perhaps works up a Civil Case against those establishments, as well. She spent her time, her friend spent HER time (Away from work), Gas, the irritation, etc. Civil Case may not actually be worth it, though, what with court costs and the like.

If I were in the police Department, those are the people I would want to go after...
 
All I can say is, I hope things start going better for her. I'm sorry her son isn't stepping up & helping, the way I think a child should help their parent in times of stress & need.
 
Patrick said:
Why does she only have one set of keys for her car? Sorry, but as she knows by now, that's dumb!

As for the other stuff that Virginia Beach was refusing to release because she didn't report it stolen, they gave her the solution: report it stolen. Because it was.

And as for the rest of it, he's on his own. He can rot in jail, the lowlife. Maybe this will straighten him out.
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Pat, the key word in Boltlady's post is son. Even though a son might be a no-good low life, there is still that parental love (or should be). As for the extra key, that is one of those things one plans on doing "tomorrow."
 
Doc said:
HOPEFULLY, he will realize that his family needs his help, and step up.

I say she gets an attorney, works with the police, and perhaps works up a Civil Case against those establishments, as well. She spent her time, her friend spent HER time (Away from work), Gas, the irritation, etc. Civil Case may not actually be worth it, though, what with court costs and the like.

If I were in the police Department, those are the people I would want to go after...
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One can file a claim in Small Claims Court (at least in Georgia) for about $50. One can plead his/her own case without a lawyer.
 
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