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Venezuela wins WBC in Miami

SW48

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Congratulations to Venezuela who beat the USA 3-2 last night in dramatic fashion to win the 20 team world baseball tournament in Miami, FL.

There had to be 20,000 fans for Venezuela in the stands. This is a country that the USA just went into and kidnapped their leader, arrested him, and have him in jail. Does the fact so many Venezuelans are able to travel to the USA mean that they liked that their leader was grabbed and think its better for their country?

And why would the USA allow Venezuelan citizens into the country during this period of time?

If Iran were in the WBC do you think we would let their citizens into the country to watch baseball? I don't think so.

Just curious as I have nothing against the citizens of Venezuela or Iran but was wondering what everyone thought on this subject? I actually think those two countries could be great countries.

So we don't feel Venezuelans are a threat at all to come here for bad intentions?
 
SW48 said:
Congratulations to Venezuela who beat the USA 3-2 last night in dramatic fashion to win the 20 team world baseball tournament in Miami, FL.

There had to be 20,000 fans for Venezuela in the stands. This is a country that the USA just went into and kidnapped their leader, arrested him, and have him in jail. Does the fact so many Venezuelans are able to travel to the USA mean that they liked that their leader was grabbed and think its better for their country?

And why would the USA allow Venezuelan citizens into the country during this period of time?

If Iran were in the WBC do you think we would let their citizens into the country to watch baseball? I don't think so.

Just curious as I have nothing against the citizens of Venezuela or Iran but was wondering what everyone thought on this subject? I actually think those two countries could be great countries.

So we don't feel Venezuelans are a threat at all to come here for bad intentions?
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Great game.

Lots of Venezuelan exiles attended, one would think. Most people in any country just want to live their lives in peace and prosperity but those who left Venezuela no doubt tend to hate the prior president. What will their lives be like now? Who knows - it’s all up to Emperor Wannabe Trump.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Great game.

Lots of Venezuelan exiles attended, one would think. Most people in any country just want to live their lives in peace and prosperity but those who left Venezuela no doubt tend to hate the prior president. What will their lives be like now? Who knows - it’s all up to Emperor Wannabe Trump.
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My question was, why are we not worried about bad actors coming from Venezuala? Why wouldn't there be a ban on travel from a country who's leader we just took out?

Or is Venezuela truly happy with what happened?
 
SW48 said:
Congratulations to Venezuela who beat the USA 3-2 last night in dramatic fashion to win the 20 team world baseball tournament in Miami, FL.

There had to be 20,000 fans for Venezuela in the stands. This is a country that the USA just went into and kidnapped their leader, arrested him, and have him in jail. Does the fact so many Venezuelans are able to travel to the USA mean that they liked that their leader was grabbed and think its better for their country?

And why would the USA allow Venezuelan citizens into the country during this period of time?

If Iran were in the WBC do you think we would let their citizens into the country to watch baseball? I don't think so.

Just curious as I have nothing against the citizens of Venezuela or Iran but was wondering what everyone thought on this subject? I actually think those two countries could be great countries.

So we don't feel Venezuelans are a threat at all to come here for bad intentions?
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We didn't kidnap their leader. First of all, he was unelected. Secondly, the US arrested him just like the police go to someone's house and arrest them.
 
SW48 said:
Congratulations to Venezuela who beat the USA 3-2 last night in dramatic fashion to win the 20 team world baseball tournament in Miami, FL.

There had to be 20,000 fans for Venezuela in the stands. This is a country that the USA just went into and kidnapped their leader, arrested him, and have him in jail. Does the fact so many Venezuelans are able to travel to the USA mean that they liked that their leader was grabbed and think its better for their country?

And why would the USA allow Venezuelan citizens into the country during this period of time?

If Iran were in the WBC do you think we would let their citizens into the country to watch baseball? I don't think so.

Just curious as I have nothing against the citizens of Venezuela or Iran but was wondering what everyone thought on this subject? I actually think those two countries could be great countries.

So we don't feel Venezuelans are a threat at all to come here for bad intentions?
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I am of course disappointed the US came up short, but congratulations to Venezuela, nonetheless. Well deserved.

A pretty good year for them - Win the WBC and get rid of Maduro. A lot to celebrate, and I'm sure they will.
 
SW48 said:
My question was, why are we not worried about bad actors coming from Venezuala? Why wouldn't there be a ban on travel from a country who's leader we just took out?

Or is Venezuela truly happy with what happened?
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I have no idea how the Trump cabal is handling visa requests from Venezuelans. As I said, I suspect most of the attendees at the game were exiles. Are Venezuelans happy with Trump’s military coup? I’m sure that’s a mixed bag.
 
SW48 said:
My question was, why are we not worried about bad actors coming from Venezuala? Why wouldn't there be a ban on travel from a country who's leader we just took out?

Or is Venezuela truly happy with what happened?
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Doesn't appear there's any worry of those from Venezuala
IMO, I don't think same can be said of those from Iran, I think several hundred have been caught at the border and stopped,1500 caught in 2021 and 700 allowed released into America (who knows where they are at)

Apparently, 20,000 are happy.
 
FWIW:


Joy, tears and chants of "freedom" as Venezuelans in South Florida react to Nicolas Maduro's capture​


Venezuelans in South Florida poured into the streets of Doral early Saturday, celebrating what many called a historic turning point for their country after President Nicolas Maduro was removed from power, according to President Donald Trump.

Celebrations erupted outside El Arepazo restaurant, a longtime gathering spot for the Venezuelan community, where people hugged, sang and waved flags as the sun came up. This does mean a lot to Doral since it has the largest Venezuelan population of any city in the country.

Chants of "Libertad" echoed through the area as crowds sang both the U.S. and Venezuelan national anthems, marking a moment many said they had waited decades to see. Demonstrators told CBS News Miami this is the most free they've felt in decades.



Complete text: https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/...unity-reactions-nicolas-maduro-capture-trump/



There seems to be a significant Venezuelan population in Florida...
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
I have no idea how the Trump cabal is handling visa requests from Venezuelans. As I said, I suspect most of the attendees at the game were exiles. Are Venezuelans happy with Trump’s military coup? I’m sure that’s a mixed bag.
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What coup? It was like if you got arrested. You aren't the president.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Interesting article…

apple.news

Opinion | Other nations danced for joy at the World Baseball Classic. Team USA played toy soldiers — Guardian US

Venezuela played with heart, Italy sipped espresso and the Dominicans showed off their verve at the tournament. America wanted to concentrate on war
apple.news apple.news
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That might be the worst written article I have ever read. As if politics have anything to do with baseball.

You would think the guy that wrote it was saying the other countries have no problems whatsoever. Venezuela used to be a thriving country but under the dictator Maduro they fled for their lives. Italy would still be under German rule if it weren't for the allies. And Canada uses us for protection.

But the USA is bad because Trump liberated Venezuela and got rid of the Iranian leadership...

Tump is an [Unwelcome language removed], I will give you that. But that article was a silly read. If the US were war mongering we would have kept Iraq and Afghanistan, taken over Greenland and Canada. I don't know anyone in the USA personally that is happy with any war. This was a hack piece.
 
SW48 said:
That might be the worst written article I have ever read. As if politics have anything to do with baseball.

You would think the guy that wrote it was saying the other countries have no problems whatsoever. Venezuela used to be a thriving country but under the dictator Maduro they fled for their lives. Italy would still be under German rule if it weren't for the allies. And Canada uses us for protection.

But the USA is bad because Trump liberated Venezuela and got rid of the Iranian leadership...

Tump is an [Unwelcome language removed], I will give you that. But that article was a silly read. If the US were war mongering we would have kept Iraq and Afghanistan, taken over Greenland and Canada. I don't know anyone in the USA personally that is happy with any war. This was a hack piece.
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Nicely said.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Trump send in the military to seize Maduro, spirits him out of the country, installs Trump’s preferred replacement, and Trump cultists say…

What coup?

Sheesh.
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You can't be that stupid, so you must be lying.

Trump did not choose the replacement for Maduro, the Venezuelan court did that. And they put in Maduro's vice president, someone we did not recognize as rightfully elected, but she cooperated wonderfully with us, so we are happy with her.
 
Days said:
You can't be that stupid, so you must be lying.

Trump did not choose the replacement for Maduro, the Venezuelan court did that. And they put in Maduro's vice president, someone we did not recognize as rightfully elected, but she cooperated wonderfully with us, so we are happy with her.
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Please. You’re ridiculous.

www.bbc.com

Under pressure from Trump, Venezuela's new president has aces up her sleeve

Delcy Rodriguez knows its in America's interests for her to be a success
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
SW48 said:
That might be the worst written article I have ever read. As if politics have anything to do with baseball.

You would think the guy that wrote it was saying the other countries have no problems whatsoever. Venezuela used to be a thriving country but under the dictator Maduro they fled for their lives. Italy would still be under German rule if it weren't for the allies. And Canada uses us for protection.

But the USA is bad because Trump liberated Venezuela and got rid of the Iranian leadership...

Tump is an [Unwelcome language removed], I will give you that. But that article was a silly read. If the US were war mongering we would have kept Iraq and Afghanistan, taken over Greenland and Canada. I don't know anyone in the USA personally that is happy with any war. This was a hack piece.
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Trump “liberated” Venezuela by invading it and capturing its leader?

Wow.

P.S. This is not about past presidents and past wars. We have never before seized the assets of countries like Iraq or Afghanistan. But we are in a new era. For example, Trump now openly proclaims that we now control Venezuela’s oil.
 
SW48 said:
Congratulations to Venezuela who beat the USA 3-2 last night in dramatic fashion to win the 20 team world baseball tournament in Miami, FL.

There had to be 20,000 fans for Venezuela in the stands. This is a country that the USA just went into and kidnapped their leader, arrested him, and have him in jail. Does the fact so many Venezuelans are able to travel to the USA mean that they liked that their leader was grabbed and think its better for their country?

And why would the USA allow Venezuelan citizens into the country during this period of time?

If Iran were in the WBC do you think we would let their citizens into the country to watch baseball? I don't think so.

Just curious as I have nothing against the citizens of Venezuela or Iran but was wondering what everyone thought on this subject? I actually think those two countries could be great countries.

So we don't feel Venezuelans are a threat at all to come here for bad intentions?
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thanks for posting this. evidently the inability to travel to the USA thing is a myth.

let's hope this is a harbinger of good things for the 2026 world cup (soccer)

congrats venezuela. elect a new government. play ball !!
 
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