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Wait a minute – Robin Williams’ suicide over MONEY ?????

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/robin-williams-had-serious-money-troubles-in-months-before-his-death-claims-friend-was-the-pressure-too-much/

So says the article in the link above. I can’t imagine someone hanging himself because he might have to downsize his mansion, or take a movie role that didn’t entirely appeal to him. But that’s the explanation of “a close family friend”. Williams was “worried about his family’s financial security”

I’m not saying this COULDN’T be true, but most people don’t kill themselves in the belief that their families will be economically better off, even if they do have a huge life insurance policy (full disclosure – I’m an insurance professional. Suicide is an excludable event for the first 10 years under most policies).

I’m not ready to discard the original take by reporters: Williams had lifelong drinking and addiction problems, and history of failed interventions and visits to rehab clinics. Long term alcohol use is strongly associated with suicide, even if there aren’t underlying mental health issues. I fully understand that Hollywood is in denial over its substance abuse issues, and would like to chalk William's death up to "career disappointment", but that doesn't change the circumstances surrounding the deaths of Philip Seymour Hoffman, Whitney Houston, Heath Ledger, Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain . . . legalized drugs don't prevent this sort of thing. They accelerate it, with lower cost, easier access, and higher quality.

I don’t want to seem unsympathetic to a recent suicide. But if I had the fame and career and lifestyle of Robin Williams, I could somehow find the will to go on, even if I had to take an occasional movie role that I didn’t find Oscar-worthy.

Full disclosure – a US resident is twice as likely to take his own life as to die in any form of homicide – gun, knife, vehicular, beating, whatever. The country with the highest level of suicides is Greenland where you’re 7 or 8 times more likely to take your own life than in america. In fact, 34 countries have higher suicide rates than america, including Japan, Sweden, Russia, Belgium, Finland, and France. At the other end of the spectrum, a number of countries (self) report unbelievably low statistics: Haiti, Pakistan, Venezuela and a host of other 3rd world countries are evidently the happiest places on earth, if their governments are to be believed.
 
Addiction is a powerful force on the psyche. Peoples' addictions have driven them to commit murder, suicide, rape, robbery and all other types of crimes. I don't doubt the power of it to be responsible for Williams' death. The financial thing may have been a rationalization for him to go through with it, or a way of trying to spare his family the pain of the details of his addictions. Either way, it's sad and he was a gifted, talented, generous, flawed, tormented, addicted person...a lot of qualities we all share.
 
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/robin-williams-had-serious-money-troubles-in-months-before-his-death-claims-friend-was-the-pressure-too-much/

So says the article in the link above. I can’t imagine someone hanging himself because he might have to downsize his mansion, or take a movie role that didn’t entirely appeal to him. But that’s the explanation of “a close family friend”. Williams was “worried about his family’s financial security”

I’m not saying this COULDN’T be true, but most people don’t kill themselves in the belief that their families will be economically better off, even if they do have a huge life insurance policy (full disclosure – I’m an insurance professional. Suicide is an excludable event for the first 10 years under most policies).

I’m not ready to discard the original take by reporters: Williams had lifelong drinking and addiction problems, and history of failed interventions and visits to rehab clinics. Long term alcohol use is strongly associated with suicide, even if there aren’t underlying mental health issues. I fully understand that Hollywood is in denial over its substance abuse issues, and would like to chalk William's death up to "career disappointment", but that doesn't change the circumstances surrounding the deaths of Philip Seymour Hoffman, Whitney Houston, Heath Ledger, Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain . . . legalized drugs don't prevent this sort of thing. They accelerate it, with lower cost, easier access, and higher quality.

I don’t want to seem unsympathetic to a recent suicide. But if I had the fame and career and lifestyle of Robin Williams, I could somehow find the will to go on, even if I had to take an occasional movie role that I didn’t find Oscar-worthy.

Full disclosure – a US resident is twice as likely to take his own life as to die in any form of homicide – gun, knife, vehicular, beating, whatever. The country with the highest level of suicides is Greenland where you’re 7 or 8 times more likely to take your own life than in america. In fact, 34 countries have higher suicide rates than america, including Japan, Sweden, Russia, Belgium, Finland, and France. At the other end of the spectrum, a number of countries (self) report unbelievably low statistics: Haiti, Pakistan, Venezuela and a host of other 3rd world countries are evidently the happiest places on earth, if their governments are to be believed.

Suicide is quite often the choice of luxury.

The states, the way you presented them mean absolutely nothing. They are absent vital controls.
 
Addiction is a powerful force on the psyche. Peoples' addictions have driven them to commit murder, suicide, rape, robbery and all other types of crimes. I don't doubt the power of it to be responsible for Williams' death. The financial thing may have been a rationalization for him to go through with it, or a way of trying to spare his family the pain of the details of his addictions. Either way, it's sad and he was a gifted, talented, generous, flawed, tormented, addicted person...a lot of qualities we all share.

You just gave a brilliant argument for de-criminalizing drugs.
 
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/robin-williams-had-serious-money-troubles-in-months-before-his-death-claims-friend-was-the-pressure-too-much/

So says the article in the link above. I can’t imagine someone hanging himself because he might have to downsize his mansion, or take a movie role that didn’t entirely appeal to him. But that’s the explanation of “a close family friend”. Williams was “worried about his family’s financial security”

I’m not saying this COULDN’T be true, but most people don’t kill themselves in the belief that their families will be economically better off, even if they do have a huge life insurance policy (full disclosure – I’m an insurance professional. Suicide is an excludable event for the first 10 years under most policies).

I’m not ready to discard the original take by reporters: Williams had lifelong drinking and addiction problems, and history of failed interventions and visits to rehab clinics. Long term alcohol use is strongly associated with suicide, even if there aren’t underlying mental health issues. I fully understand that Hollywood is in denial over its substance abuse issues, and would like to chalk William's death up to "career disappointment", but that doesn't change the circumstances surrounding the deaths of Philip Seymour Hoffman, Whitney Houston, Heath Ledger, Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain . . . legalized drugs don't prevent this sort of thing. They accelerate it, with lower cost, easier access, and higher quality.

I don’t want to seem unsympathetic to a recent suicide. But if I had the fame and career and lifestyle of Robin Williams, I could somehow find the will to go on, even if I had to take an occasional movie role that I didn’t find Oscar-worthy.

Full disclosure – a US resident is twice as likely to take his own life as to die in any form of homicide – gun, knife, vehicular, beating, whatever. The country with the highest level of suicides is Greenland where you’re 7 or 8 times more likely to take your own life than in america. In fact, 34 countries have higher suicide rates than america, including Japan, Sweden, Russia, Belgium, Finland, and France. At the other end of the spectrum, a number of countries (self) report unbelievably low statistics: Haiti, Pakistan, Venezuela and a host of other 3rd world countries are evidently the happiest places on earth, if their governments are to be believed.
They just divulged HOW he died. But who will ever know WHY? I think Robin Williams was a good actor, a great comedian and will always be remembered. No matter how/why he died. I feel very sorry for his family and for him, as he had to be tormented about something.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/12/showbiz/robin-williams-dead/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
 
why do you even read such crap websites and why are you using that to diminish the painful loss of Robin Williams? seriously, what's wrong with you?
 
why do you even read such crap websites and why are you using that to diminish the painful loss of Robin Williams? seriously, what's wrong with you?
Not surprising the snarky comments from this crowd....Saw where some ass wipe on Fox News called Williams a coward...These Right Wing types make me sick
 


One point for you. But why not source your material up front rather than make some vague accusation? You invite mistrust.

In the interest of telling the entire truth, Shepard Smith did apologize. Whether that apology was sincere or not people can judge for themselves:


"It's hard to imagine, isn't it? You could love three little things so much, watch them grow, they're in their mid-20s, and they're inspiring you, and exciting you, and they fill you up with the kind of joy you could never have known," Smith said. "And yet, something inside you is so horrible or you're such a coward or whatever the reason that you decide that you have to end it. Robin Williams, at 63, did that today."


The host, normally a favorite of the internet, was called out for the remarks on Twitter, and later gave an explanation/apology in a conversation with Mediaite.


"I spent an entire hour talking about how much this man affected people's lives and brought greatness to this world," he said. "I was just wondering aloud what could have made this man want to end it all. And it reminds us that we all have responsibility as friends and neighbors to help take responsibility to prevent this from happening."


Later, Smith said that he would be horrified if anyone — especially Williams' family — heard him call the late actor a coward.


"To the core of my being, I regret it," he added. "It just came out of my mouth. And I'm so sorry. And to anyone and their families who see that, I am sorry."
 
it is sad, but as you can see, I asked a question...about suicide...


By all accounts, Mr. Williams seems to have been a pretty decent man who had some problems. Now, are those who commit suicide to be deemed cowards? Some might make that argument, but I think it's difficult to judge unless one has walked that road themselves.

I will pray for his soul and his family. That's all I really have to say about this topic.
 
Suicide is quite often the choice of luxury.

The states, the way you presented them mean absolutely nothing. They are absent vital controls.

every person i know who committed suicide was middle class or lower. there were only 3. one guy jumped off a cliff while on LSD. Another shot himself in the head over a failed love affair. Another killed himself after he shot his boss.
 
By all accounts, Mr. Williams seems to have been a pretty decent man who had some problems. Now, are those who commit suicide to be deemed cowards? Some might make that argument, but I think it's difficult to judge unless one has walked that road themselves.

I will pray for his soul and his family. That's all I really have to say about this topic.

mr williams is not a coward. he was a mentally ill person whose problems were intensified and compounded by alcohol and narcotics.
 
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