Wake up and smell the Illuminatti

[Days]

The face of the One Dollar bill is President Washington, but turn the one dollar over, and what do you see smeared all over the back of it? The power behind the money.

Consider what is happening right now.

Pretend for a moment that John Boehner isn't bluffing. He doesn't look like he's bluffing.

Suppose the Speaker of the House follows through with his stated position. The executive branch gets no debt ceiling increase. What happens?

Well, we have bonds to make good. You understand that part, right? When Treasuries mature they get redeemed. So, in order not to default, the executive branch has to come up with money to service the debt. Now, since revenues are shorter than the budget requires (we are still running one whale of a deficit) ... that leaves exactly two other possible sources of money with which to service the debt.

1) Sell more bonds at auction ... but this increases the national debt.

2) Print up United States Notes in the mints, or even, mint some mighty big dollar value coins. This is completely legal, was done for 150 years, so it has lots of precedent, costs us next to nothing, and it lowers the national debt, instead of raising it.

So, given this scenario. Why? Why would president Obama not even consider #2?

Why isn't the whole nation screaming at him to do #2?

And why are all of you, entirely ignorant of your own money?

If it isn't because of the Illuminatti working to keep your public education completely devoid of the real history of America and it's money... why does this nation go on cutting its own throat?

And after you cut your own throat, you totally deny you are bleeding... and dying.

Wake up and smell the Illuminatti.

 

[Saladin2]

Good Stuff Days...Thanks for the laughs

 

[Days]

Good Stuff Days...Thanks for the laughs

you think this is funny?

you won't after we default.

 

[Zoar]

Days Days Days, stop being so enigmatic and sensational and you might have listeners. That simple.

 

[Saladin2]

Days Days Days, stop being so enigmatic and sensational and you might have listeners. That simple.

Days Really believes this stuff...But he is at least civil about it

 

[LanceFreeman]

The problem with No.2, Days, is that it is precisely what the FED has being doing these last few months with its QE3; i.e. print boatloads of money and loan it to the government at interest. What they are arguing about now is whether the government should borrow more from the FED and other foreign creditors, and how much they should borrow. The FED machine not only increases our debt, but inflates our currency also; foreign borrowing does not inflate, but increases our debt load. Either way, we lose. Neither the Republicans nor Democrats are capable of saving us from the approaching steamroller; the collapse of our currency and the impoverishment of our people.

 

[Saladin2]

The problem with No.2, Days, is that it is precisely what the FED has being doing these last few months with its QE3; i.e. print boatloads of money and loan it to the government at interest. What they are arguing about now is whether the government should borrow more from the FED and other foreign creditors, and how much they should borrow. The FED machine not only increases our debt, but inflates our currency also; foreign borrowing does not inflate, but increases our debt load. Either way, we lose. Neither the Republicans nor Democrats are capable of saving us from the approaching steamroller; the collapse of our currency and the impoverishment of our people.

When does Hyper Inflation start?...I thought that was supposed to happen...Like 10 years ago?

 

[Dawg]

 

[Days]

The problem with No.2, Days, is that it is precisely what the FED has being doing these last few months with its QE3; i.e. print boatloads of money and loan it to the government at interest. What they are arguing about now is whether the government should borrow more from the FED and other foreign creditors, and how much they should borrow. The FED machine not only increases our debt, but inflates our currency also; foreign borrowing does not inflate, but increases our debt load. Either way, we lose. Neither the Republicans nor Democrats are capable of saving us from the approaching steamroller; the collapse of our currency and the impoverishment of our people.

The FED is not a part of the Federal government, it is a wholly stock owned private bank. private sector, not government sector. GSEs might be set up by the government but they are private sector, they are not government.

When the FED or any of the private banks of America prints up money, that money belongs to the private sector that printed it. If the US Treasury sells bonds to the private sector for the money they printed, those are called outstanding bonds and they are due... hence they are debt.

However, if the US Treasury were to print its own money, that money would belong to the US Treasury. It is not debt. Hence, we could pay down the debt with that money.

When the FED prints money to buy bond based securities, or any other security or bond, yes it increases the money supply, specifically, it increases the supply of money owned by the FED, not the government.

Do not confuse the money supply printed up by the private sector with the money that could be printed up by the government. Obviously, it adds to the money in circulation if the government prints money; today we call that growing the economy. Obviously, it is a total win, win, win for the government to print its own money in its own mints. It lowers the debt, increases the money supply, and strengthens the government. It also enables the government to support its citizens.

But the Illuminatti has you fools so incredibly stupid, that you actually demand to have your own throats cut.

 

[Days]

The Illuminatti controls the political parties. You are being duped.

All these political ploys are staged. The idea is to get you fighting with each other and keep you so stupid that you can't for the life of you see that the simple solution is to have the government return to printing its own money.

 

[Days]

Days Days Days, stop being so enigmatic and sensational and you might have listeners. That simple.

enigmatic and sensational? For our government to do what it originally did as colonies fighting for independence, and as a young republic. Ben Franklin wrote that the cause of the American Revolution was the British banks pulling our script. That's why the USA dug deep and founded itself upon a rock; the silver dollar. All the international bankers ever wanted was to take away that silver dollar. Eventually they did, and with it, they took away the republic. Ben Franklin said "A republic - if you can keep it" ... well, we lost it. A long time ago, under president Grant, we lost it. Now, Americans are so stupid, that they think printing silver dollars isn't important and wouldn't change anything. Right, that's why all the largest banks in the world fought against it for so long and that's why they replaced it with their own dollar... with the Illuminatti symbols all over the back of it... because it wasn't important, it was just the government of the people, by the people, for the people. No big deal. Now pay the debt you owe, sucker.

 

[AIL]

The face of the One Dollar bill is President Washington, but turn the one dollar over, and what do you see smeared all over the back of it? The power behind the money.

Consider what is happening right now.

Pretend for a moment that John Boehner isn't bluffing. He doesn't look like he's bluffing.

Suppose the Speaker of the House follows through with his stated position. The executive branch gets no debt ceiling increase. What happens?

Well, we have bonds to make good. You understand that part, right? When Treasuries mature they get redeemed. So, in order not to default, the executive branch has to come up with money to service the debt. Now, since revenues are shorter than the budget requires (we are still running one whale of a deficit) ... that leaves exactly two other possible sources of money with which to service the debt.
1) Sell more bonds at auction ... but this increases the national debt.

2) Print up United States Notes in the mints, or even, mint some mighty big dollar value coins. This is completely legal, was done for 150 years, so it has lots of precedent, costs us next to nothing, and it lowers the national debt, instead of raising it.

So, given this scenario. Why? Why would president Obama not even consider #2?

Why isn't the whole nation screaming at him to do #2?

And why are all of you, entirely ignorant of your own money?

If it isn't because of the Illuminatti working to keep your public education completely devoid of the real history of America and it's money... why does this nation go on cutting its own throat?

And after you cut your own throat, you totally deny you are bleeding... and dying.

Wake up and smell the Illuminatti.

The last president to do that kind of printing "debit free money printing" was Kennedy.

Debt free meaning no interest payments to the FEDs for printing money.. Why give the power to print money to a Private for profit banks that own federal reserve. If You or I print money we go to jail but these banksters print trillions and trillions of dollars with few strikes on a key boards . This instant printing of money is the biggest source of corruption in the capitalists western world. Is done on purpose to keep you in debit and poor all your life. You become obedient servant in order to pay your endless debits. .


Debt-Free United States Notes Were Once Issued Under JFK And The U.S. Government Still Has The Power To Issue Debt-Free Money..

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...-still-has-the-power-to-issue-debt-free-money

I am with you FUyK the FED and all those that run it. Get rid of these bastards.

 

[Days]

The last president to do that kind of printing "debit free money printing" was Kennedy.

Debt free meaning no interest payments to the FEDs for printing money.. Why give the power to print money to a Private for profit banks that own federal reserve. If You or I print money we go to jail but these banksters print trillions and trillions of dollars with few strikes on a key boards . This instant printing of money is the biggest source of corruption in the capitalists western world. Is done on purpose to keep you in debit and poor all your life. You become obedient servant in order to pay your endless debits. .


Debt-Free United States Notes Were Once Issued Under JFK And The U.S. Government Still Has The Power To Issue Debt-Free Money..

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/...-still-has-the-power-to-issue-debt-free-money

I am with you FUyK the FED and all those that run it. Get rid of these bastards.

Andrew Jackson didn't call them a bunch of poisonous snakes because they are GOOD for the nation.

Silver certificates printed under JFK never made it out of the mint. My understanding is that some $5 Billion were ordered to be printed and whatever made it off the presses was destroyed immediately under LBJ.

Politicians are all puppets that dance on bankers' purse strings. (I should put it in my quote line)

Lincoln printed up money in the mints and paid the military with it. Exactly the same way the Colonial Congress paid Washington's troops. 300 years ago, as colonies, we were printing money left and right and got rich as hell doing it.

But we can't do it today, cuz, well, cuz idiots like the smart posters in this forum don't have the first clue how the nation's money works. They flat out don't understand the simplest damn thing about our money. If ignorance was bliss than we live in Shangri-La. And these guys are ten times smarter than the average college educated American.... there is no education required to develop an understanding of how money works - not at the K-12 level and not in the universities. It is flat out wonderful to be an ignoramus when it comes to money. If you display the least tiny bit of good sense, that is a terrible, awful thing and everyone is encouraged to ridicule any such (bad) person. I've seen it all over the internet. And I've seen people waking up and fighting back. What I haven't seen is the tiniest crack in the media; journalists are either universally devoid of any understanding whatsoever of how the money is created in America... or they are ordered and edited to write that way.

Who creates the American dollar? our banks.
Why doesn't the government create its own money?
Because, whoever creates it, owns it.
So, who's money gets created in US Treasury mints?
The Federal Reserve.
And we just give it to them?
yep.
And we don't print any for ourselves?
nope.
Why not?
Ask the politicians, that's one of the things they supposedly are running for us.
But no one ever does, all they ever do is carry on a charade of politics pretending that nothing is amiss.
You know that 1776 on the base of the pyramid of the all-seeing eye? That is the year the Illuminatti was formed; it is 100% their symbol, it has nothing at all to do with America, when America handed our money over to the Illuminatti, they put their syumbol on the back of the one dollar bill; the message could not be clearer, the Illuminatti is saying point blank, "We own your money, its our money now".

 

[Queen Titania]

The problem with No.2, Days, is that it is precisely what the FED has being doing these last few months with .its QE3; i.e. print boatloads of money and loan it to the government at interest. What they are arguing about now is whether the government should borrow more from the FED and other foreign creditors, and how much they should borrow. The FED machine not only increases our debt, but inflates our currency also; foreign borrowing does not inflate, but increases our debt load. Either way, we lose. Neither the Republicans nor Democrats are capable of saving us from the approaching steamroller; the collapse of our currency and the impoverishment of our people.

Cancel all debt

 

[Days]

Cancel all debt

no need to cancel the debt... just pay it. Pay it with money printed up for the express purpose of paying it. Silver coin is the real American dollar, so how hard would it be to mint $1 million dollar silver coins, $5 million dollar silver coins, $10 million dollars silver coins, $25 million dollar silver coins, $50 million dollar silver coins, $100 million dollar silver coins, $500 million dollar silver coins, and $1 billion dollar silver coins?

it would be easy.

 

[Days]

Days Really believes this stuff...But he is at least civil about it

I don't believe or preach the "stuff" you think I believe and preach. I have never advocated for hurting the banks. The banks are hurting us with this currency but it is a self inflicted wound, all we have to do is change the currency. We let the banks design our currency and they took all of it, they literally made their credit issue our money. Okay, fool me once. But you have never heard me post "shut down the FED". That was Ron Paul. I said it would be better than shutting down the government, but we don't have to do either. Just print silver coins that read "One Million Dollars" and use them to PAY THE DEBT. Believe me, there's nothing the banks would love more than to have their bonds redeemed in full. And we could continue with this same Federal Reserve currency for the rest of us. No one gets hurt, no one gets shut down. But if you are so deluded as to believe that the current system won't collapse upon itself, maybe you need to catch up on the latest news... it is already starting to happen.

The Constitution was never changed. The US mints can start kicking out our own money, any damn time they feel like doing so. They can print US Notes instead of Federal Reserve Notes also... it is their prerogative. But the more important denominations that need to go into mint is silver coin that read...

$1 million dollars ................ 3" diameter silver coin
$5 million dollars ................ 4" diameter silver coin
$10 million dollars .............. 5" diameter silver coin

$50 million dollars ............. 3" diameter silver coin with 1 1/2" gold rim
$100 million dollars ........... 4" diameter silver coin with 1 1/2" gold rim
$500 million dollars ........... 5" diameter silver coin with 1 1/2" gold rim

$1 billion dollars ................. 3" diameter silver coin with 1 1/2" gold rim and
................................................... 1 1/2" platinum rim
$5 billion dollars ................ 4" diameter silver coin with 1 1/2" gold rim and
................................................... 1 1/2" platinum rim
$10 billion dollars .............. 5" diameter silver coin with 1 1/2" gold rim and
................................................... 1 1/2" platinum rim

Mint those coins and add them on top of the currency already going out. Trust me, we wouldn't need very much of the big stuff. And only use it to service the debt, that keeps it under control. It also makes everything else we are doing, and everything we have already done, fully funded. Life gets a whole lot better - both for the banks - and for the government - and ultimately for all Americans - and the whole planet.

That's the stuff I believe.

 

[Queen Titania]

no need to cancel the debt... just pay it. Pay it with money printed up for the express purpose of paying it. Silver coin is the real American dollar, so how hard would it be to mint $1 million dollar silver coins, $5 million dollar silver coins, $10 million dollars silver coins, $25 million dollar silver coins, $50 million dollar silver coins, $100 million dollar silver coins, $500 million dollar silver coins, and $1 billion dollar silver coins?

it would be easy.

 

[squareshot]

The face of the One Dollar bill is President Washington, but turn the one dollar over, and what do you see smeared all over the back of it? The power behind the money.

Consider what is happening right now.

Pretend for a moment that John Boehner isn't bluffing. He doesn't look like he's bluffing.

Suppose the Speaker of the House follows through with his stated position. The executive branch gets no debt ceiling increase. What happens?

Well, we have bonds to make good. You understand that part, right? When Treasuries mature they get redeemed. So, in order not to default, the executive branch has to come up with money to service the debt. Now, since revenues are shorter than the budget requires (we are still running one whale of a deficit) ... that leaves exactly two other possible sources of money with which to service the debt.
1) Sell more bonds at auction ... but this increases the national debt.

2) Print up United States Notes in the mints, or even, mint some mighty big dollar value coins. This is completely legal, was done for 150 years, so it has lots of precedent, costs us next to nothing, and it lowers the national debt, instead of raising it.

So, given this scenario. Why? Why would president Obama not even consider #2?

Why isn't the whole nation screaming at him to do #2?

And why are all of you, entirely ignorant of your own money?

If it isn't because of the Illuminatti working to keep your public education completely devoid of the real history of America and it's money... why does this nation go on cutting its own throat?

And after you cut your own throat, you totally deny you are bleeding... and dying.

Wake up and smell the Illuminatti.

Hi DAYS, well said. If we continue this frantic ignorance in Washington, we will undo all the good we have done as a nation. And make the rest of the world wonder if we were fools all along.

 

[Zam-Zam]

The face of the One Dollar bill is President Washington, but turn the one dollar over, and what do you see smeared all over the back of it? The power behind the money.

Consider what is happening right now.

Pretend for a moment that John Boehner isn't bluffing. He doesn't look like he's bluffing.

Suppose the Speaker of the House follows through with his stated position. The executive branch gets no debt ceiling increase. What happens?

Well, we have bonds to make good. You understand that part, right? When Treasuries mature they get redeemed. So, in order not to default, the executive branch has to come up with money to service the debt. Now, since revenues are shorter than the budget requires (we are still running one whale of a deficit) ... that leaves exactly two other possible sources of money with which to service the debt.
1) Sell more bonds at auction ... but this increases the national debt.

2) Print up United States Notes in the mints, or even, mint some mighty big dollar value coins. This is completely legal, was done for 150 years, so it has lots of precedent, costs us next to nothing, and it lowers the national debt, instead of raising it.

So, given this scenario. Why? Why would president Obama not even consider #2?

Why isn't the whole nation screaming at him to do #2?

And why are all of you, entirely ignorant of your own money?

If it isn't because of the Illuminatti working to keep your public education completely devoid of the real history of America and it's money... why does this nation go on cutting its own throat?

And after you cut your own throat, you totally deny you are bleeding... and dying.

Wake up and smell the Illuminatti.

One of the most basic laws of economics is that the more you have of something, the less valuable it becomes. You print more money, it loses value and buys less. The idea that it "costs us next to nothing" is of course absurd.

Printing more money has consequences: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/commandingheights/shared/minitext/ess_germanhyperinflation.html


http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/glossary/g/glAssignat.htm

 

[Days]

Hi DAYS, well said. If we continue this frantic ignorance in Washington, we will undo all the good we have done as a nation. And make the rest of the world wonder if we were fools all along.

This theater is being staged by both sides. The bankers are the directors. You can be damn sure they have a mutual goal in mind.