"We are all Trayvon Martin" painting displayed at Fl State Capitol.

[NinaS]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...man-shooting-trayvon-martin-article-1.1423940


It appears this just isn't going to go away...be forgotten like so many counted on. But this probably made Zimmerman proud. He does like attention and I'd not be surprised if he killed someone again. Hell, look at the money he made off his crime.

 

[Jen]

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that what is depicted here is out of someone's contrived belief, not a depiction of what happened. Some people prefer a fantasy that makes them look like a beaten down victim to the reality of what is. To me it's a form of mental illness, but who knows?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I guess the person who painted this was there...

oh wait, they weren't.

next...

 

[ElGringo]

My state is also a "stand your ground" state and I think the laws should be revisited but I wonder exactly how helpful these inaccurate appeals to emotion really are.

 

[NinaS]

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that what is depicted here is out of someone's contrived belief, not a depiction of what happened. Some people prefer a fantasy that makes them look like a beaten down victim to the reality of what is. To me it's a form of mental illness, but who knows?

And you KNOW what happened...or just Zimmerman's version of it? That's what I thought. If it were your son who was gunned down by a wanna-be cop you'd be singing a different tune. No matter what you believe or want to believe George Zimmerman was at fault for following an unarmed kid and carrying a gun while doing so, which were both in odds to the watch program he VOLUNTEERED for. Trayvon Martin had a right to stand his ground...didn't he? When Zimmerman (admittedly) put his hand in his pocket Trayvon had every right to punch him in the nose because he very well could have thought he was pulling out a gun. What happened after that is anyone's guess. But Zimmerman wasn't "losing consciousness" as he later claimed...otherwise he wouldn't have been able to get out from under the VICTIM and "subdue" him. You know...it takes a lot of muscle to subdue a dead 158# 17 yr old. Go ahead and uphold him. It shows what you're made of...if it's not your kid...let him die, huh?

 

[NinaS]

I guess the person who painted this was there...

oh wait, they weren't.

next...

You didn't have to be there to know/realize that Zimmerman was totally at fault for starting and of course ending the situation that could have/would have been handled by the police. Trayvon Martin would be getting ready to start his fall classes and Zimmerman would no doubt have been playing cops and robbers like the wanna-be he actually proved to be...while taking classes on how to defend himself in the meantime.
What a MAN!!!

 

[Zam-Zam]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...man-shooting-trayvon-martin-article-1.1423940

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It appears this just isn't going to go away...be forgotten like so many counted on. But this probably made Zimmerman proud. He does like attention and I'd not be surprised if he killed someone again. Hell, look at the money he made off his crime.

As a reminder, Trayvon Martin was the young man killed by Registered Democrat George Zimmerman.

 

[Jen]

And you KNOW what happened...or just Zimmerman's version of it? That's what I thought. If it were your son who was gunned down by a wanna-be cop you'd be singing a different tune. No matter what you believe or want to believe George Zimmerman was at fault for following an unarmed kid and carrying a gun while doing so, which were both in odds to the watch program he VOLUNTEERED for. Trayvon Martin had a right to stand his ground...didn't he? When Zimmerman (admittedly) put his hand in his pocket Trayvon had every right to punch him in the nose because he very well could have thought he was pulling out a gun. What happened after that is anyone's guess. But Zimmerman wasn't "losing consciousness" as he later claimed...otherwise he wouldn't have been able to get out from under the VICTIM and "subdue" him. You know...it takes a lot of muscle to subdue a dead 158# 17 yr old. Go ahead and uphold him. It shows what you're made of...if it's not your kid...let him die, huh?

Let's see.
Zimmerman's view
The witness view
The view the jury believed
The ballistics view
That would be mine.

Yours and that painter's ..............something else you've made up in your mind.

I'll stick with mine.

And oh by the way. ... certainly Trayvon had the right to "stand his ground" or he would have had he been attacked. But he wasn't attacked in any way, so standing his ground.............is irrelevant.

I don't like what happened. I don't like guns, don't have one don't carry one. I think Zimmerman was too eager to get the guy who had been robbing homes in that neighborhood. But Martin made a wrong choice when he chose to circle around and confront Zimmerman. No reflection on Martin's badness or goodness........ it's a straight up statement. He should have gone on home instead of circling around to confront Zimmerman who was returning to his vehicle.

And that you don't see that isn't going to change. I just find it a little disturbing that people (including that artist) choose to believe a fantasy in their mind.

 

[NinaS]

As a reminder, Trayvon Martin was the young man killed by Registered Democrat George Zimmerman.

Have you seen any democrats upholding him? And on the other hand...have you seen any republicans here DEFENDING him? Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. I don't care what he was "registered" as. Politics isn't everything. But the fact that he was a gun freak coward was the only reason republicans upheld him. Disgusting.

 

[NinaS]

Let's see.
Zimmerman's view
The witness view
The view the jury believed
The ballistics view
That would be mine.

Yours and that painter's ..............something else you've made up in your mind.

I'll stick with mine.

And oh by the way. ... certainly Trayvon had the right to "stand his ground" or he would have had he been attacked. But he wasn't attacked in any way, so standing his ground.............is irrelevant.

I don't like what happened. I don't like guns, don't have one don't carry one. I think Zimmerman was too eager to get the guy who had been robbing homes in that neighborhood. But Martin made a wrong choice when he chose to circle around and confront Zimmerman. No reflection on Martin's badness or goodness........ it's a straight up statement. He should have gone on home instead of circling around to confront Zimmerman who was returning to his vehicle.

And that you don't see that isn't going to change. I just find it a little disturbing that people (including that artist) choose to believe a fantasy in their mind.

Tell me Ms. Know it all...HOW IN HELL do you know that Trayvon wasn't attacked? He had a right to stand his ground if he was threatened though...RIGHT??? You don't have to be attacked to stand your ground. All you have to do is BELIEVE that your life is in danger. If he thought Zimmerman was reaching fopr his gun he had every right to defend himself. But knowing you...you probably think he should have waited until he pulled the trigger. Nobody saw what happened until they were scuffling on the ground...EXCEPT your hero..Zimmerman who told different stories. And should have Zimmerman gotten out of the vehicle?? Should he have been carrying a gun...since you're so adamant about saying what others should have done. It wasn't your kid...you don't give a shit. End of story.

 

[NinaS]

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that what is depicted here is out of someone's contrived belief, not a depiction of what happened. Some people prefer a fantasy that makes them look like a beaten down victim to the reality of what is. To me it's a form of mental illness, but who knows?

And Jen YOU don't know what IS...no more than the jury did or FOX NEWS where you get all your views. If you think that we or anyone should accept what a jury says then I guess you think it's okay that Casey Anthony is free after her child IN HER CARE was found in a lagoon with duct tape over her skull. Or that OJ Sompson was found not guilty even though there was more evidence against him than anyone in history. You talk about insane...just because you are brainwashed by the likes of Fox News it doesn't mean that others don't have their own opinions.

 

[Jen]

Tell me Ms. Know it all...HOW IN HELL do you know that Trayvon wasn't attacked? He had a right to stand his ground if he was threatened though...RIGHT??? You don't have to be attacked to stand your ground. All you have to do is BELIEVE that your life is in danger. If he thought Zimmerman was reaching fopr his gun he had every right to defend himself. But knowing you...you probably think he should have waited until he pulled the trigger. Nobody saw what happened until they were scuffling on the ground...EXCEPT your hero..Zimmerman who told different stories. And should have Zimmerman gotten out of the vehicle?? Should he have been carrying a gun...since you're so adamant about saying what others should have done. It wasn't your kid...you don't give a shit. End of story.

You know more about me than to say that, Nina.

It wasn't your kid...you don't give a shit. End of story.

But you said it anyway. That's okay.
I believe that the jury made the right decision. I'm not a know it all. I just agree with the jury.

 

[Jen]

And Jen YOU don't know what IS...no more than the jury did or FOX NEWS where you get all your views. If you think that we or anyone should accept what a jury says then I guess you think it's okay that Casey Anthony is free after her child IN HER CARE was found in a lagoon with duct tape over her skull. Or that OJ Sompson was found not guilty even though there was more evidence against him than anyone in history. You talk about insane...just because you are brainwashed by the likes of Fox News it doesn't mean that others don't have their own opinions.

I don't always agree with a jury. But I did in the Zimmerman case. I get my news online from a list of sources including Huffington Post.

 

[NinaS]

You know more about me than to say that, Nina.

But you said it anyway. That's okay.
I believe that the jury made the right decision. I'm not a know it all. I just agree with the jury.

You indicated that those who believed the jury was wrong were INSANE. But that's okay Jen. LOLOL Same ole same ole

 

[Jen]

You indicated that those who believed the jury was wrong were INSANE. But that's okay Jen. LOLOL Same ole same ole

I said that those who have made up a story (like that one in the painting) and actually believe that that's the way it happened are mentally off. And I stand by that.
There is absolutely no evidence in the Trayvon thing to indicate that that picture is in any way correct. If you choose to believe that the picture is what happened, then you are into believing fantasy just as much as that artist is. And ummm..........believing something that is not real is REAL.........is ummm.......... not exactly sanity.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You didn't have to be there to know/realize that Zimmerman was totally at fault for starting and of course ending the situation that could have/would have been handled by the police. Trayvon Martin would be getting ready to start his fall classes and Zimmerman would no doubt have been playing cops and robbers like the wanna-be he actually proved to be...while taking classes on how to defend himself in the meantime.
What a MAN!!!

Actually, none of the evidence proves any motive or anything like that.

Any lawyer will tell you it was questionable for it to even go to trial. The only reason it did was to appease the NAACP's massive weight it pushes.

You are simply reciting pseudo-knowledge that has no basis in reality. Zimmerman isn't "innocent", but he's not guilty either.

 

[NinaS]

I said that those who have made up a story (like that one in the painting) and actually believe that that's the way it happened are mentally off. And I stand by that.
There is absolutely no evidence in the Trayvon thing to indicate that that picture is in any way correct. If you choose to believe that the picture is what happened, then you are into believing fantasy just as much as that artist is. And ummm..........believing something that is not real is REAL.........is ummm.......... not exactly sanity.

If Zimmerman were truly "returning to his vehicle" why did he tell the police to call him when they got there to see where he was instead of giving them the location of his vehicle? After all he didn't want that particular "[Unwelcome language removed]" to get away...did he? That F'ing Punk". Odd that the guy with 3 previous arrests for aggression is calling someone else a punk. And odd that he were EVER allowed to carry a gun. But no doubt you'd disagree with that as well.

 

[NinaS]

Actually, none of the evidence proves any motive or anything like that.

Any lawyer will tell you it was questionable for it to even go to trial. The only reason it did was to appease the NAACP's massive weight it pushes.

You are simply reciting pseudo-knowledge that has no basis in reality. Zimmerman isn't "innocent", but he's not guilty either.

"Any Lawyer?" Bullshit. More crap made up in your head to justify the stupid stand your ground law.

 

[ElGringo]

I know this is a little off-topic but martin wasn't armed and Zimmerman didn't have anything at all close to life-threatening injuries...of course it should have gone to trial.

 

[Mytzlplk]

And you KNOW what happened...or just Zimmerman's version of it? That's what I thought. If it were your son who was gunned down by a wanna-be cop you'd be singing a different tune. No matter what you believe or want to believe George Zimmerman was at fault for following an unarmed kid and carrying a gun while doing so, which were both in odds to the watch program he VOLUNTEERED for. Trayvon Martin had a right to stand his ground...didn't he? When Zimmerman (admittedly) put his hand in his pocket Trayvon had every right to punch him in the nose because he very well could have thought he was pulling out a gun. What happened after that is anyone's guess. But Zimmerman wasn't "losing consciousness" as he later claimed...otherwise he wouldn't have been able to get out from under the VICTIM and "subdue" him. You know...it takes a lot of muscle to subdue a dead 158# 17 yr old. Go ahead and uphold him. It shows what you're made of...if it's not your kid...let him die, huh?

Indeed, my understanding is that the verdict was derived from the juries inability to even consider anything that transpired prior to the moment doughboy decided to pull the trigger. http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/...d-got-murdered-for-it-so-did-native-americans

Quite frankly I find the idea that jennifer has an accurate command, much less and understanding of all the relevant facts in the case, or precisely what it was decided upon, extremely remote.

She never has that, which is why all of her top post efforts get so many responses from people erroneously thinking that they can clue-in the clueless.