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We Believe Sondland's Survivors....

Marcus Aurelius

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right, liberals? Right???????

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gordon-sondland-sexual-harassment-allegation-denial

Three women have accused U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland of sexually harassing them and then taking retaliatory measures when they rejected his advances.

Sondland, who was thrust into the national spotlight last week when he testified in the ongoing impeachment inquiry into President Trump, is accused of forcibly trying to kiss two women in separate incidents and exposing himself to a third. All incidents occurred while Sondland was working as the chairman of Provenance Hotels and before he had been appointed to his role as ambassador.

In one incident, Sondland purportedly took Nicole Vogel, a prospective business partner and the owner of Portland Monthly, on a tour of a room in a hotel he owns before grabbing her face and trying to kiss her. After Vogel rejected him, Sondland reneged on investing in her venture.

“I remember seeing my hand drop from the door handle,” Vogel said. “I turned around, and he’s standing right behind me, and he says, ‘Can I just have a hug first?’”

She added: “And as I pulled back, he grabs my face and goes to kiss me.”

The second incident involved Jana Solis, a hospitality safety engineer who worked for Sondland. He allegedly exposed himself to her during a tour of his home – saying “I just thought we could have some fun” - and when she expressed her lack of interest, he reportedly called her and yelled at her about her job performance.

“He was pissed,” she said. “He didn’t get his way [with me], and he was making it about work…And he was making it all my fault.”

A third woman, Natalie Sept, claims Sondland pushed himself against her and kissed her before she shoved him away while they met about a potential job. Sept said Sondland stopped helping her after the incident.

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Now, I am SURE the liberals will trean Sondland EXACTLY like they did Kavanaugh, right? Guilt by accusation! Doesn't matter that he was their star witness at that farce of an impeachment hearing... NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW....isn't that right, liberals???????
 
So what does this have to do with his under oath testimony? Are you surprised yet another Trump appointee has sexual deviant behavior on his resume, I thought that was a pre-requisite for employment?

So, why if this happened, hasn't Trump fired him, and why hasn't Trump fired him for "lying" about Ukraine?

How has a Trump donor all of a sudden become a democrat, for telling the truth?

Maybe he should have just grabbed them by the p$$$y since his boss obviously did that regularly ? I guess he missed that internal memo.........

If he did it, then prosecute him, these Trumplike actions don't make his testimony go away, sorry !
 
So what does this have to do with his under oath testimony? Are you surprised yet another Trump appointee has sexual deviant behavior on his resume, I thought that was a pre-requisite for employment?

So, why if this happened, hasn't Trump fired him, and why hasn't Trump fired him for "lying" about Ukraine?

How has a Trump donor all of a sudden become a democrat, for telling the truth?

Maybe he should have just grabbed them by the p$$$y since his boss obviously did that regularly ? I guess he missed that internal memo.........

If he did it, then prosecute him, these Trumplike actions don't make his testimony go away, sorry !
this is not a thread about his testimony, it's about the sexual allegations. Stick to the topic or fvck off.
 
So when Trump vetted him, why did he hire him ? Oh wait donating 1 million dollars gets you past the vetting stage right?
 
By unanimous decision, sensible don has been banned from this thread. Please do not respond to any of his posts.
 
right, liberals? Right???????

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gordon-sondland-sexual-harassment-allegation-denial

Three women have accused U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland of sexually harassing them and then taking retaliatory measures when they rejected his advances.

Sondland, who was thrust into the national spotlight last week when he testified in the ongoing impeachment inquiry into President Trump, is accused of forcibly trying to kiss two women in separate incidents and exposing himself to a third. All incidents occurred while Sondland was working as the chairman of Provenance Hotels and before he had been appointed to his role as ambassador.

In one incident, Sondland purportedly took Nicole Vogel, a prospective business partner and the owner of Portland Monthly, on a tour of a room in a hotel he owns before grabbing her face and trying to kiss her. After Vogel rejected him, Sondland reneged on investing in her venture.

“I remember seeing my hand drop from the door handle,” Vogel said. “I turned around, and he’s standing right behind me, and he says, ‘Can I just have a hug first?’”

She added: “And as I pulled back, he grabs my face and goes to kiss me.”

The second incident involved Jana Solis, a hospitality safety engineer who worked for Sondland. He allegedly exposed himself to her during a tour of his home – saying “I just thought we could have some fun” - and when she expressed her lack of interest, he reportedly called her and yelled at her about her job performance.

“He was pissed,” she said. “He didn’t get his way [with me], and he was making it about work…And he was making it all my fault.”

A third woman, Natalie Sept, claims Sondland pushed himself against her and kissed her before she shoved him away while they met about a potential job. Sept said Sondland stopped helping her after the incident.

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Now, I am SURE the liberals will trean Sondland EXACTLY like they did Kavanaugh, right? Guilt by accusation! Doesn't matter that he was their star witness at that farce of an impeachment hearing... NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW....isn't that right, liberals???????

Of course the allegations should be taken seriously. Same with the allegations by dozens of women against Trump, which you happily ignore.

But what’s with attacking libs about Sondland? He’s Trump’s crony. Trump tried gaslighting you into thinking Sondland’s testimony cleared him. The gaslighting didn’t take?
 
Of course the allegations should be taken seriously. Same with the allegations by dozens of women against Trump, which you happily ignore.

But what’s with attacking libs about Sondland? He’s Trump’s crony. Trump tried gaslighting you into thinking Sondland’s testimony cleared him. The gaslighting didn’t take?
If he is Trump's crony, why did Schiff make him the star witness?
 
Because he told the truth and damned Trump.

You seem shocked by the notion that a Trump crony could tell the truth. I was too.
I'm glad you admit Sondland told the truth here...

“President Trump never told me directly that the military aid was conditioned on the investigations,” Sondland said.....

“I never heard from president Trump that aid was conditioned on an announcement of elections [sic],” Sondland says.....

“So, no one told you. Not just the president?” Turner said to Sondland during today’s hearing in the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

“Giuliani didn’t tell you? Mulvaney didn’t tell you? Nobody?” said Turner. “Pompeo didn’t tell you? Nobody else on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying aid to these investigations? Is that correct?”

“I think I already testified to that,” said Sondland.

“No answer the question: Is it correct?” said Turner. “No one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigation?” Turner persisted. “Because if your answer is ‘yes’ then the chairman’s wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong. No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations? Yes or no?”

“Yes,” said Sondland.

“So, you really have no testimony that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations?” asked Turner.

“Other than my own presumption,” said Sondland.
 
I'm glad you admit Sondland told the truth here...

“President Trump never told me directly that the military aid was conditioned on the investigations,” Sondland said.....

“I never heard from president Trump that aid was conditioned on an announcement of elections [sic],” Sondland says.....

“So, no one told you. Not just the president?” Turner said to Sondland during today’s hearing in the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

“Giuliani didn’t tell you? Mulvaney didn’t tell you? Nobody?” said Turner. “Pompeo didn’t tell you? Nobody else on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying aid to these investigations? Is that correct?”

“I think I already testified to that,” said Sondland.

“No answer the question: Is it correct?” said Turner. “No one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigation?” Turner persisted. “Because if your answer is ‘yes’ then the chairman’s wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong. No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations? Yes or no?”

“Yes,” said Sondland.

“So, you really have no testimony that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations?” asked Turner.

“Other than my own presumption,” said Sondland.

Exactly. He also unequivocally said there was a quid pro quo. You forgot that part.

Trump did do some of his extortion dirty work through his bagmen/buffers, and Trump told them not to testify. To clear everything up you want them to testify, right?
 
Exactly. He also unequivocally said there was a quid pro quo. You forgot that part.

Trump did do some of his extortion dirty work through his bagmen/buffers, and Trump told them not to testify. To clear everything up you want them to testify, right?


He said he assumed there was a quid pro quo.

His opinion.

You didn't follow this very well, did you ?
 
Exactly. He also unequivocally said there was a quid pro quo. You forgot that part.

Trump did do some of his extortion dirty work through his bagmen/buffers, and Trump told them not to testify. To clear everything up you want them to testify, right?
do you understand the word "PRESUMPTION"?
 
Your dodge is noted. Quite telling.

“So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations.”

Sondland’s answer: “Other than my own presumption.”

He testified that he “presumed” and “came to believe” that the administration was engaged in quid pro quo for certain investigations — providing no proof or new evidence. He also said his theories about why aid was withheld were a “guess.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-bombshell-dud-editorials-debates/4254300002/

So you are willfully ignorant. Congratulations !

Case closed.

next.
 
“So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations.”

Sondland’s answer: “Other than my own presumption.”

He testified that he “presumed” and “came to believe” that the administration was engaged in quid pro quo for certain investigations — providing no proof or new evidence. He also said his theories about why aid was withheld were a “guess.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-bombshell-dud-editorials-debates/4254300002/

So you are willfully ignorant. Congratulations !

Case closed.

next.

Yup. Case closed...

“I know that members of this Committee have frequently framed these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a "quid pro quo?" As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes," Sondland said.

;-)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pb...uid-pro-quo-but-denies-he-heard-it-from-trump
 
do you, or do you not understand the definition of the word 'presumption'?

as in...

“So, you really have no testimony that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations?” asked Turner.

“Other than my own presumption,” said Sondland.

LINK: The definition of a presumption is an acceptance of something as true without proof, or an attitude of superiority.

I know the definition of that word, and I know you dodge all questions that reveal the bad faith of your positions.
 
I know the definition of that word, and I know you dodge all questions that reveal the bad faith of your positions.
so, you understand and agree that Sondland, BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, has nothing but his own PRESUMPTION of a quid pro quo...

and, you further admit and agree that the the definition of a presumption is an acceptance of something as true without proof, or an attitude of superiority.

So finally, you agree that Sondland had no proof of quid pro quo, and it was only his own opinion, with no proof or evidence to back him up.

Your capitulation is noted. (look up that word if it's to grown up for you).
 
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