Welcome back Alan

[Mytzlplk]

you've been missed.

With modern rightwingnuts it's no just a matter of identifying just one elephant in the room, but rather the herd. "Have they no shame?".

Rep. Grayson mocks ‘bath salts caucus’ for voting against Sandy relief
By Eric W. Dolan
Monday, January 7, 2013 17:35 ESTShare on facebookShare on redditShare on diggShare on twitterShare on farkShare on stumbleupon101
Topics: alan grayson ♦ Hurricane Sandy

Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) on Monday mocked the 67 House Republicans who voted against disaster relief funds for the victims of Hurricane Sandy.

“It’s the same 67 over and over again,” he noted on The Stephanie Miller Show. “It’s the bath salts caucus, the people that would rather eat your face than cut taxes on the rich.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/...salts-caucus-for-voting-against-sandy-relief/​

 

[OldGaffer]

Alan will grab some headlines over the next two years, he is a Liberals answer to Michelle Bachman.

 

[RickWA]

he is a Liberals answer to Michelle Bachman.

I agree with this on a number of levels.

 

[Mytzlplk]

well, in some ways perhaps.

the difference is his description choices (hyperbole) are based on real world facts as opposed to products of a less than fertile imagination. MOcking them with things like that is an entirely different ball game for say http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/...uslim_brotherhood_is_for_michele_bachmann.php

or

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann in a radio interview last week accused President Obama of being a communist, fascist, promoting Sharia, and compared his work to tactics of Adolph Hitler. Bachmann spoke with Jan Markell, a conservative radical religious radio host whose focus is, "current events in light of biblical end-time prophecy."

That doesn't make him a liberal answer -- if that's to mean "the equivalent of" -- to a MB, it just makes him one of the few liberals willing to hit below the belt in describing them when cause for it is provided. "bath salts crew" is just a variation of the "kool-aid" thing. He's not suggesting they are real life face-eaters like a MB is suggesting BHO actually fits the above descriptions, just that they are in the grips of extremist madness.

 

[OldGaffer]

I should have qualified my statement by adding "a sane Liberals answer to Michelle Bachman", she is, of course, totally insane.

 

[Mytzlplk]

I understood what you meant OG, and why Alan rubs many the wrong way.

I don't see him as being much different from you or I in terms of the way he talks/writes (and feels about for that matter) about or to rightwingnut extremists, it's just a decorum thing and a desire on the part of many that we be "better than them", etc. As you noted, you also have to look beyond mere word choices and consider the source of them.

I've long been of the opinion that civility is way overrated in the political environment of their creation, and that while shaming has all but lost its effectiveness as a behavior modification tool (for them) in the modern public square, it remains the only one available to us all. I think he gained most of his rightwingnut fans over his "Hurry up and die off!" comment during the health care debate, that put some distance between metaphor and provided some closeness to the real life consequences of their policy support and pursuits on the matter. That is the net result of their policy choice on the matter, whether that's their desire or motive for them or not. It makes him an effective communicator of the non-propaganda kind imo. ANd as we know, and as BHO has experienced in the last four years, they are totally unmoved by "please be sane"...lol

have a good one dude -- gotta scoot

 

[MaryAnne]

Alan won his election with 63%.

 

[RickWA]

Of course, none of us can credibly attest to his relative sanity. He is, however, a terrible steward of public decency and thoughtful rhetorical engagement. On that latter metric, he and Bachmann are quite comparable.

Ah well, the clear trend is toward irresponsible public rhetorical self-indulgence...and red meat-seeking constituents can't get enough. That's life.

 

[Mytzlplk]

Right, like his "relative sanity" isn't determined by the same measure MB, yours, or mine are.

ANd the "terrible steward" of public decency is almost as stupid as your other effort. Which is worse, a little bit of hyperbole in describing the 67 rightwingnuts that voted against the aid for the Sandy victims, or the "thoughtful and civil rhetorical engagement" of say, that to be found in the baseless Rice witch hunt and all it implies about her and the "irresponsible public rhetorical self-indulgence" it represents?

It's the same old pucking story with you -- you think there's some big and substantive diff between simply calling someone a "dumbass" or worse, and doing it "civilly" (As in without explicit name-calling, etc) by naked and obvious implication that falls short of the explicit, kinda like all that stuff from your last rightwingnut pres candidate that fell just short of calling BHO an unAmerican lazy black boy, etc.

The difference is, those that you support as a rightwinger actually have and get what they have coming to them -- like the "bath salts" crew for example.

How does it feel to share the same side of the ideological spectrum in this country heartless, hypocritical, and unxtian fucks like them, eh?