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LeRoy_Was_Here
Senator
I thought they both worked at Engulf and Devour, Inc.
Arkady
President
Could be Freudian. Here's my guess. I'm betting that back during the nomination fight, when nearly everybody besides Romney took a turn as the front-runner (Cain, Bachmann, Gingrich, Trump, Santorum, etc.), Romney needed the establishment conservatives to come to his aid by taking some shots at these wackier side-show conservatives. The establishment conservatives, in turn, required that he either give them the ability to pick his VP, or at least that he agree to choose from a list of right-wing-approved politicians, with people like Ryan on the list. There was probably open discussion of this person needing to be young enough to be positioned in 2016 or even 2020 to be the next president. And thus, Romney slips up and refers to him as the next president. For movement conservatives, Ryan is the top of the ticket, and Romney is just the fancy suit and tie he's wearing to make an impression.
degsme
Council Member
Nah.. I don't think its that sinister. its too incompetent for that.
Caroljo
Senator
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-introduced-joe-biden-as-the-next-president-4-years-ago-2012-8
Obama did the same thing....
He's pretty good at the gaffe's too...actually, he's VERY good at it! Lol!
Obama did the same thing....
He's pretty good at the gaffe's too...actually, he's VERY good at it! Lol!
degsme
Council Member
I dunno. Romney's gaffes are pretty close to the heart. Obama's? Well they aren't that frequent.
Caroljo
Senator
It looks to me like his list is longer than Romneys...everyone does it, and it's really pretty stupid to bash someone for doing it.
But some of them ARE pretty funny!
Here's Obamas:
http://blondephotos.org/BlondeGator/?p=2332
Here's Romneys:
http://romneygaffe.com/listof-mittromneygaffes.php
NightSwimmer
Senator
I also doubt that the selection of Ryan was that complicated. Romney is losing badly and his campaign staff knows it. They chose Ryan to shore up the base so that the upcoming landslide loss won't be quite so severe. That's the only way for the selection of Paul Ryan to make any sense. If Romney had a snowball's chance in hell of winning, then they would have chosen Portman or Pawlenty as his running mate to maximize their chances with swing voters.
And something that was conveniently left out...Obama caught his mistake himself...immediately. Romney obviously didn't even know he made that gaffe until he sat down and someone else informed him. He had to run back to the podium to correct his mistake.
Pretty silly to compare their gaffes when Obama has been the President for 4 yrs and has made MANY more public speeches than RMoney. Whatever works, I guess.
Caroljo
Senator
Ya...you could be right. However, NOTHING beats the time he spoke about his "Muslim" religion, then had to be reminded he was a Christian! Lol!
NOTHING? I don't think so. You have evidently skipped over 2000 to 2008. BOOKS have been written about that dolt's gaffes. Are you a "birther" by chance?
LeRoy_Was_Here
Senator
LeRoy: No one is a birther 'by CHANCE'. You can only be a birther by CHOICE. Kind of the same as homosexuality, you know.....
Caroljo
Senator
Well i do wonder at times why he won't show us his college admission papers....both colleges. Lefty's say how smart he is...heck, he even SAID he didn't pay attention in school. Anyway, why won't he show them? If he's that smart, i would think he would want to brag about it. But, what IF it showed he went to college as a foreign student and got aid for that? It actually got me wondering more about that when his publisher quoted that he said he was from Kenya. Why didn't Obama correct him on that? Just kinda makes me wonder.....................what's he hiding?
degsme
Council Member
Why won't Romney? We know he failed out of Stanford and yet somehow managed to get into Harvard Grad School. How did he manage that one when Harvard B School is so selective only top grades get in?
Why won't Romney show us his college admissions papers?
What's he hiding?
If he accomplished what he did on his own merits, why not show it?
BTW - how long did it take for Obama to realize he mis-spoke in introducing Biden?
How long did it take before Romney came and made the same correction? And did he realize it himself or did an aide have to tell him?
LeRoy_Was_Here
Senator
LeRoy: Mr. Obama graduated from Harvard summa cum laude. You might need to look that up, if you don't know what it means, and I'm guessing you apparently don't. It's in Latin, by the way.
degsme
Council Member
Well I think they went to Ryan thinking they had to be "outside the box" and that Pormtnan and Pawlenty weren't.
Arkady
President
I'd like to think things are that bleak for him, but I doubt it. I agree that it's a pick made from a position of weakness, not strength -- either because it was the pre-negotiated price for getting the nomination, or because he's making a longshot wager on a low-turnout election where an energized base can win it. But, either way, he could still win.
Arkady
President
It's not customary for a presidential candidate to show college admissions papers. It is customary for a candidate to show his tax returns -- as Romney's own father did. So, the reluctance of Obama to go above and beyond the normal makes sense, the reluctance of Romney to comply with tradition, on the other hand, makes a reasonable person wonder what he's hiding. It must be something pretty damaging for him to prefer the damage he's taking for non-disclosure.
