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What About our Homeless Veterans???

Caroljo

Caroljo

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Obama wants to bring thousands of Syrians to our shores. These people will be given shelter, food, maybe jobs (unless he just figures we're going to support them). I doubt they'll be living on the streets.....there's not much room there with our own homeless already living there.

How many homeless veterans are there?

Although flawless counts are impossible to come by – the transient nature of homeless populations presents a major difficulty – the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) estimates that 49,933 veterans are homeless on any given night.

Approximately 12,700 veterans of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF), Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation New Dawn (OND) were homeless in 2010. The number of young homeless veterans is increasing, but only constitutes 8.8% of the overall homeless veteran population.

Why are veterans homeless?

In addition to the complex set of factors influencing all homelessness – extreme shortage of affordable housing, livable income and access to health care – a large number of displaced and at-risk veterans live with lingering effects of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and substance abuse, which are compounded by a lack of family and social support networks. Additionally, military occupations and training are not always transferable to the civilian workforce, placing some veterans at a disadvantage when competing for employment.
http://nchv.org/index.php/news/media/background_and_statistics/

So....we have a shortage of affordable housing, livable income & access to health care. Yet, he's going to bring refugees here and make sure they have a place to live. Many of these refugees most likely don't even speak our language, so my comments about jobs is probably out of the picture for most. So guess who will be supporting them! Ya...you, me and everyone else.

Who is going to pay to get these refugees here? Again....you, me and everyone else! We're almost 19T in debt. If ANY money is spent on anything, it should be for our own. Our Veterans signed up to fight for our country. They deserve the best care. If we can't afford or make sure that our Vets have what they need, then we can't afford to bring these people here.


And I'm not going to forget all the other homeless that we have here. These numbers probably include Veterans.......


On the negative side, the nation’s homeless assistance system is overloaded, and a great many people who have not benefited much from the economic recovery remain at risk:
  • Almost 7.7 million people were living doubled up with friends and family in 2013, which is an increase of 67 percent since 2007. The majority of people who go into shelter report that they have come directly from a doubled up living situation, which means this group of people is the most at risk of future homelessness.
  • Over 6.4 million poor households were burdened with severe housing cost—paying over half of their income in rent each month—in 2013, representing an increase of 25 percent since 2007.
  • On any given night, there are approximately 154,000 more people experiencing homelessness than there are beds available to assist them.
    http://www.endhomelessness.org/blog...-of-homelessness-in-america-2015#.Vkuyl7-LCVc

With all this....how can ANYONE support Obama's idea to bring thousand of Syrians here, some who most likely are terrorist (ISIS said they would have their people included in these refugees). Are we just going to cross our fingers and HOPE Obama's people catch them?

How can ANYONE not be concerned that we can't seem to help our own, but your ok with this? Let alone the fact that we will NOT catch every radical that wants to come along.....you're ok that we COULD be attacked because some just 'slipped through'? I don't even know this country anymore......
 
Caroljo said:
Obama wants to bring thousands of Syrians to our shores. These people will be given shelter, food, maybe jobs (unless he just figures we're going to support them). I doubt they'll be living on the streets.....there's not much room there with our own homeless already living there.

How many homeless veterans are there?

Although flawless counts are impossible to come by – the transient nature of homeless populations presents a major difficulty – the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) estimates that 49,933 veterans are homeless on any given night.

Approximately 12,700 veterans of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF), Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation New Dawn (OND) were homeless in 2010. The number of young homeless veterans is increasing, but only constitutes 8.8% of the overall homeless veteran population.

Why are veterans homeless?

In addition to the complex set of factors influencing all homelessness – extreme shortage of affordable housing, livable income and access to health care – a large number of displaced and at-risk veterans live with lingering effects of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and substance abuse, which are compounded by a lack of family and social support networks. Additionally, military occupations and training are not always transferable to the civilian workforce, placing some veterans at a disadvantage when competing for employment.
http://nchv.org/index.php/news/media/background_and_statistics/

So....we have a shortage of affordable housing, livable income & access to health care. Yet, he's going to bring refugees here and make sure they have a place to live. Many of these refugees most likely don't even speak our language, so my comments about jobs is probably out of the picture for most. So guess who will be supporting them! Ya...you, me and everyone else.

Who is going to pay to get these refugees here? Again....you, me and everyone else! We're almost 19T in debt. If ANY money is spent on anything, it should be for our own. Our Veterans signed up to fight for our country. They deserve the best care. If we can't afford or make sure that our Vets have what they need, then we can't afford to bring these people here.


And I'm not going to forget all the other homeless that we have here. These numbers probably include Veterans.......


On the negative side, the nation’s homeless assistance system is overloaded, and a great many people who have not benefited much from the economic recovery remain at risk:
  • Almost 7.7 million people were living doubled up with friends and family in 2013, which is an increase of 67 percent since 2007. The majority of people who go into shelter report that they have come directly from a doubled up living situation, which means this group of people is the most at risk of future homelessness.
  • Over 6.4 million poor households were burdened with severe housing cost—paying over half of their income in rent each month—in 2013, representing an increase of 25 percent since 2007.
  • On any given night, there are approximately 154,000 more people experiencing homelessness than there are beds available to assist them.
    http://www.endhomelessness.org/blog...-of-homelessness-in-america-2015#.Vkuyl7-LCVc

With all this....how can ANYONE support Obama's idea to bring thousand of Syrians here, some who most likely are terrorist (ISIS said they would have their people included in these refugees). Are we just going to cross our fingers and HOPE Obama's people catch them?

How can ANYONE not be concerned that we can't seem to help our own, but your ok with this? Let alone the fact that we will NOT catch every radical that wants to come along.....you're ok that we COULD be attacked because some just 'slipped through'? I don't even know this country anymore......
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Great post, carol... Don't expect any honest responses from liberals, though.

This is who we have become.
 
The 2016 VA Budget is now at 168 Billion per year...That is with a B...This a huge federal program...How much more does America need to spend on this?.....Because some states and local agencies come up short or are mis managed...You Blame the President?
 
Saladin2 said:
The 2016 VA Budget is now at 168 Billion per year...That is with a B...This a huge federal program...How much more does America need to spend on this?.....Because some states and local agencies come up short or are mis managed...You Blame the President?
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Yes, I do blame him! The VA works for him.....he needs to get off his ass and see that whatever is happening is fixed. There is NO reason that a Veteran should have to live on the streets. They also worked for him at one time. To bring refugees here at this time is pissing a LOT of people off. He can't take care of our Vets, but he has no problem helping his own. (yes, I said that!).
 
Caroljo said:
Yes, I do blame him! The VA works for him.....he needs to get off his ass and see that whatever is happening is fixed. There is NO reason that a Veteran should have to live on the streets. They also worked for him at one time. To bring refugees here at this time is pissing a LOT of people off. He can't take care of our Vets, but he has no problem helping his own. (yes, I said that!).
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Your kind pretty much blames the President for everything....No wonder you are ignored
 
Saladin2 said:
Your kind pretty much blames the President for everything....No wonder you are ignored
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I'm ignored? Huh....didn't realize that! Doesn't look like you're ignoring me. :)
So tell me....do you think our government should be taking care of our own people before others, or is it fine with you if we just bring more here that will have to suck off our system and make the working pay for them being here?
 
This bill sounds like a good idea for the homeless vets... :)

House bill would help homeless vets find homes

On Veterans Day, lawmakers unveiled a plan to help homeless veterans find homes.
The bipartisan Housing Our Heroes Act, sponsored by Reps. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.) and Tom Rooney (R-Fla.), would provide money for veterans organizations to fix up abandoned properties, which they call “zombie homes.”
“It is simply unacceptable that our veterans, who have sacrificed so much to defend our country, should ever be forced to sleep on the streets at night,” Israel said in a statement. “This legislation will not only put a roof over our heroes’ heads, it will also transform unsightly zombie homes into renovated properties that will revitalize housing markets."
There are nearly 50,000 homeless veterans around the country, according to the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).
At the same time, there are about 1.5 million properties that have been abandoned by homeowners as banks go through the foreclosure process.
The legislation would kill two birds with one stone, the lawmakers reason, by providing a “pathway to homeownership for homeless veterans and taking abandoned rundown homes off the market.”
http://thehill.com/regulation/defense/259882-house-bill-would-help-homeless-vets-find-homes
According to a 2014 Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) report, national veteran homelessness has declined by 33 percent since 2010. However, there are still an estimated 49,933 homeless veterans on the street on any given night in the United States, including more than 2,500 veterans in New York State.
http://israel.house.gov/media-cente...o-turn-zombie-homes-into-housing-for-homeless
 
Addy said:
This bill sounds like a good idea for the homeless vets... :)

House bill would help homeless vets find homes

On Veterans Day, lawmakers unveiled a plan to help homeless veterans find homes.
The bipartisan Housing Our Heroes Act, sponsored by Reps. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.) and Tom Rooney (R-Fla.), would provide money for veterans organizations to fix up abandoned properties, which they call “zombie homes.”
“It is simply unacceptable that our veterans, who have sacrificed so much to defend our country, should ever be forced to sleep on the streets at night,” Israel said in a statement. “This legislation will not only put a roof over our heroes’ heads, it will also transform unsightly zombie homes into renovated properties that will revitalize housing markets."
There are nearly 50,000 homeless veterans around the country, according to the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).
At the same time, there are about 1.5 million properties that have been abandoned by homeowners as banks go through the foreclosure process.
The legislation would kill two birds with one stone, the lawmakers reason, by providing a “pathway to homeownership for homeless veterans and taking abandoned rundown homes off the market.”
http://thehill.com/regulation/defense/259882-house-bill-would-help-homeless-vets-find-homes
According to a 2014 Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) report, national veteran homelessness has declined by 33 percent since 2010. However, there are still an estimated 49,933 homeless veterans on the street on any given night in the United States, including more than 2,500 veterans in New York State.
http://israel.house.gov/media-cente...o-turn-zombie-homes-into-housing-for-homeless
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That sounds good, if they follow through with it. Take care of them...put them in some kind of home and help them find work. I don't have a lot of hope for that though. If we start bringing in thousands of refugees soon....it won't surprise me if they are the ones that will get those abandoned homes. Guess we wait and see.....
 
Addy said:
This bill sounds like a good idea for the homeless vets... :)

House bill would help homeless vets find homes

On Veterans Day, lawmakers unveiled a plan to help homeless veterans find homes.
The bipartisan Housing Our Heroes Act, sponsored by Reps. Steve Israel (D-N.Y.) and Tom Rooney (R-Fla.), would provide money for veterans organizations to fix up abandoned properties, which they call “zombie homes.”
“It is simply unacceptable that our veterans, who have sacrificed so much to defend our country, should ever be forced to sleep on the streets at night,” Israel said in a statement. “This legislation will not only put a roof over our heroes’ heads, it will also transform unsightly zombie homes into renovated properties that will revitalize housing markets."
There are nearly 50,000 homeless veterans around the country, according to the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).
At the same time, there are about 1.5 million properties that have been abandoned by homeowners as banks go through the foreclosure process.
The legislation would kill two birds with one stone, the lawmakers reason, by providing a “pathway to homeownership for homeless veterans and taking abandoned rundown homes off the market.”
http://thehill.com/regulation/defense/259882-house-bill-would-help-homeless-vets-find-homes
According to a 2014 Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) report, national veteran homelessness has declined by 33 percent since 2010. However, there are still an estimated 49,933 homeless veterans on the street on any given night in the United States, including more than 2,500 veterans in New York State.
http://israel.house.gov/media-cente...o-turn-zombie-homes-into-housing-for-homeless
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Sounds good. But where will they live in the meantime while the abandoned run down "zombie" houses are being renovated?
 
Caroljo said:
That sounds good, if they follow through with it. Take care of them...put them in some kind of home and help them find work. I don't have a lot of hope for that though. If we start bringing in thousands of refugees soon....it won't surprise me if they are the ones that will get those abandoned homes. Guess we wait and see.....
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Many of them wind up on the street because they are in need of mental health care as well, Carol. Don't just provide them a place to rack out, give them the kind of care they need. The government has always been like this. When they want a war, they're delighted to have the kids. but once the war is over, they don't want to be bothered.
 
Caroljo said:
Obama wants to bring thousands of Syrians to our shores. These people will be given shelter, food, maybe jobs (unless he just figures we're going to support them). I doubt they'll be living on the streets.....there's not much room there with our own homeless already living there.

How many homeless veterans are there?

Although flawless counts are impossible to come by – the transient nature of homeless populations presents a major difficulty – the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) estimates that 49,933 veterans are homeless on any given night.

Approximately 12,700 veterans of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF), Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation New Dawn (OND) were homeless in 2010. The number of young homeless veterans is increasing, but only constitutes 8.8% of the overall homeless veteran population.

Why are veterans homeless?

In addition to the complex set of factors influencing all homelessness – extreme shortage of affordable housing, livable income and access to health care – a large number of displaced and at-risk veterans live with lingering effects of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and substance abuse, which are compounded by a lack of family and social support networks. Additionally, military occupations and training are not always transferable to the civilian workforce, placing some veterans at a disadvantage when competing for employment.
http://nchv.org/index.php/news/media/background_and_statistics/

So....we have a shortage of affordable housing, livable income & access to health care. Yet, he's going to bring refugees here and make sure they have a place to live. Many of these refugees most likely don't even speak our language, so my comments about jobs is probably out of the picture for most. So guess who will be supporting them! Ya...you, me and everyone else.

Who is going to pay to get these refugees here? Again....you, me and everyone else! We're almost 19T in debt. If ANY money is spent on anything, it should be for our own. Our Veterans signed up to fight for our country. They deserve the best care. If we can't afford or make sure that our Vets have what they need, then we can't afford to bring these people here.


And I'm not going to forget all the other homeless that we have here. These numbers probably include Veterans.......


On the negative side, the nation’s homeless assistance system is overloaded, and a great many people who have not benefited much from the economic recovery remain at risk:
  • Almost 7.7 million people were living doubled up with friends and family in 2013, which is an increase of 67 percent since 2007. The majority of people who go into shelter report that they have come directly from a doubled up living situation, which means this group of people is the most at risk of future homelessness.
  • Over 6.4 million poor households were burdened with severe housing cost—paying over half of their income in rent each month—in 2013, representing an increase of 25 percent since 2007.
  • On any given night, there are approximately 154,000 more people experiencing homelessness than there are beds available to assist them.
    http://www.endhomelessness.org/blog...-of-homelessness-in-america-2015#.Vkuyl7-LCVc

With all this....how can ANYONE support Obama's idea to bring thousand of Syrians here, some who most likely are terrorist (ISIS said they would have their people included in these refugees). Are we just going to cross our fingers and HOPE Obama's people catch them?

How can ANYONE not be concerned that we can't seem to help our own, but your ok with this? Let alone the fact that we will NOT catch every radical that wants to come along.....you're ok that we COULD be attacked because some just 'slipped through'? I don't even know this country anymore......
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Many of those who are eager to bring in ME immigrants unchecked, unvetted don't care at all about our veterans. Vets are the last people on their minds as they weep and wail about how we should let every friggin' young male ME soldier-like person inside our gates.
 
Caroljo said:
Obama wants to bring thousands of Syrians to our shores. These people will be given shelter, food, maybe jobs (unless he just figures we're going to support them). I doubt they'll be living on the streets.....there's not much room there with our own homeless already living there.

How many homeless veterans are there?

Although flawless counts are impossible to come by – the transient nature of homeless populations presents a major difficulty – the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) estimates that 49,933 veterans are homeless on any given night.

Approximately 12,700 veterans of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF), Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and Operation New Dawn (OND) were homeless in 2010. The number of young homeless veterans is increasing, but only constitutes 8.8% of the overall homeless veteran population.

Why are veterans homeless?

In addition to the complex set of factors influencing all homelessness – extreme shortage of affordable housing, livable income and access to health care – a large number of displaced and at-risk veterans live with lingering effects of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and substance abuse, which are compounded by a lack of family and social support networks. Additionally, military occupations and training are not always transferable to the civilian workforce, placing some veterans at a disadvantage when competing for employment.
http://nchv.org/index.php/news/media/background_and_statistics/

So....we have a shortage of affordable housing, livable income & access to health care. Yet, he's going to bring refugees here and make sure they have a place to live. Many of these refugees most likely don't even speak our language, so my comments about jobs is probably out of the picture for most. So guess who will be supporting them! Ya...you, me and everyone else.

Who is going to pay to get these refugees here? Again....you, me and everyone else! We're almost 19T in debt. If ANY money is spent on anything, it should be for our own. Our Veterans signed up to fight for our country. They deserve the best care. If we can't afford or make sure that our Vets have what they need, then we can't afford to bring these people here.


And I'm not going to forget all the other homeless that we have here. These numbers probably include Veterans.......


On the negative side, the nation’s homeless assistance system is overloaded, and a great many people who have not benefited much from the economic recovery remain at risk:
  • Almost 7.7 million people were living doubled up with friends and family in 2013, which is an increase of 67 percent since 2007. The majority of people who go into shelter report that they have come directly from a doubled up living situation, which means this group of people is the most at risk of future homelessness.
  • Over 6.4 million poor households were burdened with severe housing cost—paying over half of their income in rent each month—in 2013, representing an increase of 25 percent since 2007.
  • On any given night, there are approximately 154,000 more people experiencing homelessness than there are beds available to assist them.
    http://www.endhomelessness.org/blog...-of-homelessness-in-america-2015#.Vkuyl7-LCVc

With all this....how can ANYONE support Obama's idea to bring thousand of Syrians here, some who most likely are terrorist (ISIS said they would have their people included in these refugees). Are we just going to cross our fingers and HOPE Obama's people catch them?

How can ANYONE not be concerned that we can't seem to help our own, but your ok with this? Let alone the fact that we will NOT catch every radical that wants to come along.....you're ok that we COULD be attacked because some just 'slipped through'? I don't even know this country anymore......
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When did your concern about veterans start? Today? Do you think that homeless veterans are a new phenomena? Where was your concern yesterday? Last week? Last year? Ten years ago? Are your representatives concerned about homeless veterans? What are they doing about it? How are you going to step up to make sure they do something?

This smells of a convenient issue to cover your xenophobic reactionary fear of immigrants. I know what side you would be on when the Irish were escaping the potato famine.
 
Jen said:
Many of those who are eager to bring in ME immigrants unchecked, unvetted don't care at all about our veterans. Vets are the last people on their minds as they weep and wail about how we should let every friggin' young male ME soldier-like person inside our gates.
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What are you doing to get your representatives to vote for more funding for veterans? What were you doing yesterday when you weren't freaked out about Paris?
 
Jen said:
Many of those who are eager to bring in ME immigrants unchecked, unvetted don't care at all about our veterans. Vets are the last people on their minds as they weep and wail about how we should let every friggin' young male ME soldier-like person inside our gates.
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Unvetted????...Total BULLSHIT...The vetting process can take up to two years
 
Jen said:
None of your business what I was doing, Bobby.
Are you a creeper?
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Ah, so you didn't contact your representatives to get them to support veterans, homeless or otherwise. Veterans are a "new" concern. Just in time to try to make a 'case' for not supporting people fleeing from persecution. Shocking.

Not.
 
Any one can end up homeless, but with the sort of aid services available in this country, anyone who stays homeless for any length of time, is there because they want to be. I've been drifting and lurking among some homeless folks around here for a few weeks.... observing the patterns. Kind of a field research project. It's been interesting to say the least.
 
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