What do you think Eric Holder did wrong?

[Bugsy McGurk]

If it's all make believe, then how come Barack W Nixon is withholding the docs that could easily prove this as false?

How could "documents" prove a negative?

You people aren't very smart.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

This is the right trash media talking point.

It's based on nothing. And it's patently and obviously false.

Which, judging by the more recent behavior of the wingnut crowd, makes it all the more urgent that the wingnuts believe it!

Being conned by Fox and friends is the very meaning of being a con!

The most insane GOP rant ever - Obama schemed to destroy the 2nd Amendment by pushing no US laws restricting guns, and by relesaing guns into Mexico. The...what? Mexicans would demand stricted US gun laws and we would pay credence to them?

Imagine how insane you'd have to be to believe all that. Without a shred of evidence, mind you.

 

[worldlymrb]

Sending weapons surreptitiously into another country for use by a non governmental element is more than criminal, its an act of war.

Obama DOJ ordering the ATF to buy semi-automatic weapons from U.S Gun dealers and then convert them to automatic machine guns is illegal and a crime all by itself, let alone gun running to Mexican drug gangs.

However...

To then BLAME U.S gun stores and the 2nd amendment in a Reichstag staged event so that the senate could ratify the U.N Small Arms Ban Treaty is TREASON!

[video=youtube;Q2opf44tS_s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2opf44tS_s&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

He was born black. That's the primary issue.

An "uppity" black AG for an "uppity" black president disobeying the commands of he lily white Darrell Issa and his equally lily white crew. That is what it boils down to.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Sending weapons surreptitiously into another country for use by a non governmental element is more than criminal, its an act of war.

Is that why you squawked about GWB's 4 "gunwalking" operations?

Oh wait...you didn't do that, did you?

Perhaps you're just a worthless GOP hack?

 

[Bo-4]

An "uppity" black AG for an "uppity" black president disobeying the commands of he lily white Darrell Issa and his equally lily white crew. That is what it boils down to.

Yep, Issa is a former scumbag car thief & arsonist. Good background for his current thuggery no?

 

[worldlymrb]

Th first part you say you already know, and you don't have a shred of evidence for the "anti-2nd Amendment" drivel. You need some evidence for something before demanding that the White House turn over its "documents." It can't just be based on the conjured ravings of lunatics.

The evidence is in the 10,000 docs your usurper is claiming executive privilege on.

 

[gabriel]

by that logic, every whitehouse document in existance should be released

 

[worldlymrb]

How could "documents" prove a negative?

You people aren't very smart.

Your negative is a opinion.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

The evidence is in the 10,000 docs your usurper is claiming executive privilege on.

It is somewhat refreshing to see a con admitting that they have no evidence, but are simply off on a fishing expedition conjuring up "documents" detailing cons' insane "Obama conspiracy" to defeat the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Your negative is a opinion.

FYI, your brain just short-circuited.

 

[worldlymrb]

by that logic, every whitehouse document in existance should be released

No. Just the documents subpenaed by Congress on Fast & Furious as required by Law and the U.S Constitution.

 

[gabriel]

but they should request every document ever produced as there may be evidence of wrong doing in them! wow! so much to do!!

 

[worldlymrb]

FYI, your brain just short-circuited.

You must have a lot of intelligence to believe that Obama dictated his executive privilege on Fast/Furious documents to protect Bush.

 

[gabriel]

protect against precedent. big difference

 

[worldlymrb]

protect against precedent. big difference

You want Romney to be able to claim executive privilege and withhold documents from our elected officials in Congress if they demand to see them?

Are you a NAZI?

 

[gabriel]

what the hell does what i want have to do with what happens in real life?

 

[ARMCX1]

From what I can tell, Issa has one thing--an initial denial by DOJ that guns were being "walked" into Mexico. The DOJ later admitted that guns were indeed being walked into Mexico.

Based upon the initial denial and later admission, Issa and the GOP/TP think there might be documentation in intra-departmental DOJ memos which hint at an attempted cover up. Issa's committee subpoenaed these documents. Holder refused to release the memos and last week, the WH asserted executive privilege.

That's pretty much where things stand.

 

[TomFitz]

Not at all.

My judgement is not of what happened in the Fast and Furious program.

It's a judgement of the right wing talking point that asserts (without a shred of evidence), that Fast and Furious is actually a secret plot to take away your guns.

There's no basis to that hysterical claim at all.

But, that hasn't stopped a number of right wing polticians and their fellow travellers from promoting the idea.

There have been no gun control proposals of any sort in the current Administration, nor has anyone in the Administration talked about doing so.

But in wingnut world, the absence of evidence is evidence of the non existant conspiracy.

This is one of the games that right wing media plays with the fearful little minds that consume their product.

Pandering to fear and stereotypes has always been a core strategum!

 

[TomFitz]

You want Romney to be able to claim executive privilege and withhold documents from our elected officials in Congress if they demand to see them?

Are you a NAZI?

You're the one sporting the swastika.