Queen Titania
Senator
Of course it does not want war - so what is it, do you suppose, that it wants?
What does North Korea want?
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What does North Korea want?
Free stuff. For decades, it's worked. They rattle their saber. We and others give them free stuff. This is why I'm against Trump playing this silly game. He may not want to give them free stuff- I don't know for sure. But we know there are plenty of big government liberals who would love nothing more than to help a communist nation.
Free stuff. For decades, it's worked. They rattle their saber. We and others give them free stuff. This is why I'm against Trump playing this silly game. He may not want to give them free stuff- I don't know for sure. But we know there are plenty of big government liberals who would love nothing more than to help a communist nation.
georgephillip
Senator
Face to face negotiations for starters:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/north-koreas-offer-to-freeze-its-nuclear-program/5602761
"North Korea has repeatedly offered to suspend its nuclear weapons development in exchange for a freeze in US-South Korean joint war exercises.
"It’s time for the US and South Korea to respond to this offer as a jumping off point for definitive negotiations towards a peaceful, sovereign, nuclear-free Korean peninsula, free from the conflicts of competing global powers that have been so harmful to the region.
"North and South Korea have lived in a perpetual wartime mobilization for decades, with the presence in the South of 83 US bases and nearly 30,000 US troops.
"Provocations are being made with increasing frequency by both North Korea and the United States.
"Each time North Korea conducts an additional nuclear or missile test, the potential severity of hostilities escalates, and the more difficult it becomes to defuse tensions and avert the outbreak of conflict on the Peninsula."
Bugsy McGurk
President
It wants attention. So it can shake other nations down for what it wants.
Solution? Stop giving them attention.
Queen Titania
Senator
What does it want, do you suppose?
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What is there to negotiate with an insane, blubbery buffoon?
Queen Titania
Senator
Hasn't the new South Korean Gov tried to engage in talks?
Queen Titania
Senator
I think they are asking for acceptance - to be recognized.
georgephillip
Senator
It's my understanding the new government has sent mixed messages.
They've said they are open to meetings with Kim while refusing to condemn recent US provocations like the upcoming joint military exercises (scheduled for next week) that simulate a ground invasion/decapitation of the North Korean regime.
http://therealnews.com/t2/story:19748:As-Trump-Threatens-North-Korea,-US-Preps-War-Games-Next-Door
Bugsy McGurk
President
Who knows. I'm sure their wish list changes day to day.
At a minimum, I suppose they want a relaxation of sanctions and recognition.
Which entails diplomatic talks. I think we were close to that before Trump started his crazy talk. The UN voted to harshly increase sanctions, supported by China. China and the UN could broker talks. Allow the chubby kid to save face, and give them a path to rejoin the community of nations, and the matter may be solvable.
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I recognize them as a wonderful illustration of the failure of communism.
But seriously, I'm not sure what recognition we could give them. They have behaved like a bratty child for decades.
Bugsy McGurk
President
little bit late
23 years late
Your stale lies about the past are not germane at this time. Try to focus on the topic - the present and the future.
georgephillip
Senator
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Sickofleft
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I would guess aide, money that's how they have been bought off before. While I would love to avoid a war I don't want us to be victims of what amounts to Nuclear blackmail.
Agreed Framework gave them 5 billion in a new electrical grid, two light water reactors, food aide etc. They developed nukes anyway.
Five Party talks....failed.
Buy them off.....and a year, 2 years from now we are standing right where we are now.
Bugsy McGurk
President
georgephillip
Senator
We could call off our dogs (of war).
"US and South Korean militaries will go ahead with massive sea, land and air exercises later this month, despite a spiralling situation in which North Korea has threatened to fire missiles towards a US Pacific territory.
"The annual joint exercises, named Ulchi-Freedom Guardian, have long been planned for 21-31 August, but now come at a time when both Washington and Pyongyang are on heightened alert, raising the spectre of a mishap or overreaction.
"The timing is doubly concerning as it is within a timeframe in which Pyongyang says it will be ready to fire four Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic missiles toward the US-run island of Guam, an unusually specific threat against the US."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/11/north-korea-us-south-korea-huge-military-exercise
Bugsy McGurk
President
We could call off our dogs (of war).
"US and South Korean militaries will go ahead with massive sea, land and air exercises later this month, despite a spiralling situation in which North Korea has threatened to fire missiles towards a US Pacific territory.
"The annual joint exercises, named Ulchi-Freedom Guardian, have long been planned for 21-31 August, but now come at a time when both Washington and Pyongyang are on heightened alert, raising the spectre of a mishap or overreaction.
"The timing is doubly concerning as it is within a timeframe in which Pyongyang says it will be ready to fire four Hwasong-12 intermediate-range ballistic missiles toward the US-run island of Guam, an unusually specific threat against the US."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/11/north-korea-us-south-korea-huge-military-exercise
That's what we shouldn't do.
What should we do?
Queen Titania
Senator
little bit late
23 years late
Five years after the iron Curtain fell - I am not a fan of Nuclear power but it is a part of the modern world's power/electricity making - cheap and efficient. Since accidents in both Russia and the US have proved not to have been so dire, I'm not so afraid of it - and if a country has no other fuel enough - what can they do?
We can't guess what was in the minds of Clinton ( spit spit) people ( who on the other hand bombed the shit out of Yugoslavia) but they were obviously trying to smooth the passing of the cold war in places and in others stirring up shit - Korea was the 1st cold war battle field and the North is still trapped in a pocket, in a void, of that war which to the rest of the world is past but North Korea is still stuck in it with no way out - I personally have no sympathy for people who eat dogs - and their leadership to me is very alien but - in their very special way (
) I think all they are trying to find is a way out of the trap they are in -------- to gain recognition as an independent power in the world. They want to be a part of the rest of the world - sure they have a funny way of going about it but .......... all they seem to be doing is saying - look we can do this too - recognize us and accept us. They must be the last of the cold war states - Piggy in the Middle of a ghost.
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Must... resist.... the... temptation... to... agree... with... Bugsy.
What would be the fun in that happening more than seldomly?
