Where are the ticking time bombs defused by torture ?

[Spamature]

I remember when bush fanatics justified and praised the act of torture by claiming it had to be done to stop imminent threats ? You know, the 24 style ticking time bombs ready to lay waste to shopping malls in Texas and swap meets in Mississippi ? Instead we seem to be getting reports of long term perverted experiments in cruelty that went on for weeks or months or years with no sense of urgency at all.

The truth is the bush mob's torture program started before that of the CIA's. It started with using fear to strengthen his exultation, cloud minds and induce panic among his supporters with constant politically timed terror alerts and bogus plots to destroy American landmarks or Boogeymen in James Bond villain type layers. Which really looked more like this

If the real reason for torture is the make the subject more compliant and eager to submit to their torturer's will on the promise he can make it all stop. Then torture supporters can call what the bushies did to them a rousing and lasting success. Because their patronage of his criminality either overtly and or subconsciously is on display for the world to see still to this day. He broke but good one and all.

 

[Dino]

I remember when bush fanatics justified and praised the act of torture by claiming it had to be done to stop imminent threats ? You know, the 24 style ticking time bombs ready to lay waste to shopping malls in Texas and swap meets in Mississippi ? Instead we seem to be getting reports of long term perverted experiments in cruelty that went on for weeks or months or years with no sense of urgency at all.

The truth is the bush mob's torture program started before that of the CIA's. It started with using fear to strengthen his exultation, cloud minds and induce panic among his supporters with constant politically timed terror alerts and bogus plots to destroy American landmarks or Boogeymen in James Bond villain type layers. Which really looked more like this

If the real reason for torture is the make the subject more compliant and eager to submit to their torturer's will on the promise he can make it all stop. Then torture supporters can call what the bushies did to them a rousing and lasting success. Because their patronage of his criminality either overtly and or subconsciously is on display for the world to see still to this day. He broke but good one and all.

You'd never hear about them. Only if such measures failed would the results be newsworthy- a very bad thing.

 

[Spamature]

You'd never hear about them. Only if such measures failed would the results be newsworthy- a very bad thing.

The bushies bragged about a bunch of busted up terror plots that were bogus. No doubt if they actually did find a real one they would have blathered about it endlessly to justify what they were doing.

PS here is someone who says you are full of hooey

 

[UPNYA2]

I remember when bush fanatics justified and praised the act of torture by claiming it had to be done to stop imminent threats ? You know, the 24 style ticking time bombs ready to lay waste to shopping malls in Texas and swap meets in Mississippi ? Instead we seem to be getting reports of long term perverted experiments in cruelty that went on for weeks or months or years with no sense of urgency at all.

The truth is the bush mob's torture program started before that of the CIA's. It started with using fear to strengthen his exultation, cloud minds and induce panic among his supporters with constant politically timed terror alerts and bogus plots to destroy American landmarks or Boogeymen in James Bond villain type layers. Which really looked more like this

If the real reason for torture is the make the subject more compliant and eager to submit to their torturer's will on the promise he can make it all stop. Then torture supporters can call what the bushies did to them a rousing and lasting success. Because their patronage of his criminality either overtly and or subconsciously is on display for the world to see still to this day. He broke but good one and all.

Uhhhhhhhhhh.....................so because we have had no "24 style ticking time bombs" lay waste to shopping malls in Texas or swap meets in Mississippi it is evident to YOU that nothing of value was gained from that which you label, " perverted experiments in cruelty"?

What IF it were possible things may be going on behind the scene that YOU are not told? What IF the government has some technique, some method of getting word of potential terror that allows them to act before the act is carried out.................and, AND, they want to continue to utilize these techniques in to protect against future terror threats so they don't tell everyone what they did or how they did it...........?

That would be something worth continuing, would it not? Even if it did piss off a few dems/libs I mean.

The truth is that there is nothing, NOTHING, that we could have ever heard of that YOU would not dismiss as, " politically timed terror alerts and bogus plots", now is there?

Look, we all know that for YOU to accept anything as being a real "threat" it would require actually letting Americans be killed and landmarks destroyed. That way you could still blame Bush for not caring. If not for actually pulling it off himself .....

 

[Dino]

Uhhhhhhhhhh.....................so because we have had no "24 style ticking time bombs" lay waste to shopping malls in Texas or swap meets in Mississippi it is evident to YOU that nothing of value was gained from that which you label, " perverted experiments in cruelty"?

What IF it were possible things may be going on behind the scene that YOU are not told? What IF the government has some technique, some method of getting word of potential terror that allows them to act before the act is carried out.................and, AND, they want to continue to utilize these techniques in to protect against future terror threats so they don't tell everyone what they did or how they did it...........?

That would be something worth continuing, would it not? Even if it did piss off a few dems/libs I mean.

The truth is that there is nothing, NOTHING, that we could have ever heard of that YOU would not dismiss as, " politically timed terror alerts and bogus plots", now is there?

Look, we all know that for YOU to accept anything as being a real "threat" it would require actually letting Americans be killed and landmarks destroyed. That way you could still blame Bush for not caring. If not for actually pulling it off himself .....

I guess they imagine their lefty sycophants in the media would be rushing to inform them that President Bush and his beloved CIA saved the days and the lives of those sailors or troops or civilians, or whoever was threatened at the time.
Libs are incredibly naive and bitter little people.

 

[UPNYA2]

I guess they imagine their lefty sycophants in the media would be rushing to inform them that President Bush and his beloved CIA saved the days and the lives of those sailors or troops or civilians, or whoever was threatened at the time.
Libs are incredibly naive and bitter little people.

I would like to tell you this amazes me................

But that would make me a liar so I will refrain.

 

[Spamature]

Uhhhhhhhhhh.....................so because we have had no "24 style ticking time bombs" lay waste to shopping malls in Texas or swap meets in Mississippi it is evident to YOU that nothing of value was gained from that which you label, " perverted experiments in cruelty"?

What IF it were possible things may be going on behind the scene that YOU are not told? What IF the government has some technique, some method of getting word of potential terror that allows them to act before the act is carried out.................and, AND, they want to continue to utilize these techniques in to protect against future terror threats so they don't tell everyone what they did or how they did it...........?

That would be something worth continuing, would it not? Even if it did piss off a few dems/libs I mean.

The truth is that there is nothing, NOTHING, that we could have ever heard of that YOU would not dismiss as, " politically timed terror alerts and bogus plots", now is there?

Look, we all know that for YOU to accept anything as being a real "threat" it would require actually letting Americans be killed and landmarks destroyed. That way you could still blame Bush for not caring. If not for actually pulling it off himself .....

I know What IF'ing about never happened. It would not found in the 6 million pages of the report that was released. Which it hasn't. So my "What IF" unlike your "What IF " is not actually a what if. It's a "what is"

 

[RickWA]

I remember when bush fanatics justified and praised the act of torture by claiming it had to be done to stop imminent threats ? You know, the 24 style ticking time bombs ready to lay waste to shopping malls in Texas and swap meets in Mississippi ? Instead we seem to be getting reports of long term perverted experiments in cruelty that went on for weeks or months or years with no sense of urgency at all.

The truth is the bush mob's torture program started before that of the CIA's. It started with using fear to strengthen his exultation, cloud minds and induce panic among his supporters with constant politically timed terror alerts and bogus plots to destroy American landmarks or Boogeymen in James Bond villain type layers. Which really looked more like this

If the real reason for torture is the make the subject more compliant and eager to submit to their torturer's will on the promise he can make it all stop. Then torture supporters can call what the bushies did to them a rousing and lasting success. Because their patronage of his criminality either overtly and or subconsciously is on display for the world to see still to this day. He broke but good one and all.

What is the purpose of Obama continuing rendition even now? Why are you not speaking out against CONTEMPORARY events? Is it because Obama is a Democrat?
You DO know what rendition is, correct? You do understand the singular reason for it, correct?

Why the deafening silence?

 

[Spamature]

I guess they imagine their lefty sycophants in the media would be rushing to inform them that President Bush and his beloved CIA saved the days and the lives of those sailors or troops or civilians, or whoever was threatened at the time.
Libs are incredibly naive and bitter little people.

Well the righty bush sycophant media over at Fox Noise can always come out and tell us American torturing captives is just more proof of how awesome we are.

 

[Spamature]

What is the purpose of Obama continuing rendition even now? Why are you not speaking out against CONTEMPORARY events? Is it because Obama is a Democrat?
You DO know what rendition is, correct? You do understand the singular reason for it, correct?

Why the deafening silence?

I say they do a report on that and let the chips fall were they may. Our captives should be held on our soil, under our laws.

 

[marvin martian]

What is the purpose of Obama continuing rendition even now? Why are you not speaking out against CONTEMPORARY events?

Probably the same reason he isn't commenting on Obama's use of weaponized drones to execute American citizens with no due process. Doesn't fit the agenda of President Peace Prize and his merry band of bootlicking sycophants...

 

[Spamature]

Probably the same reason he isn't commenting on Obama's use of weaponized drones to execute American citizens with no due process. Doesn't fit the agenda of President Peace Prize and his merry band of bootlicking sycophants...

So Americans who are actively engaged in fighting US forces are supposed to be captured and taken back to the US for trial ? Don't you think that is kind of risky ? This is surprising coming from a the same person that says an American police officer can basically do the same thing (execute without a due process based upon fear of what the person might do otherwise) on American soil.

 

[marvin martian]

So Americans who are actively engaged in fighting US forces are supposed to be captured and taken back to the US for trial ?

Yes. I know you don't care much for civil rights, that's clear from your posting history, but American citizens have a right to due process, not summary execution on the order of the president.

 

[Spamature]

Yes. I know you don't care much for civil rights, that's clear from your posting history, but American citizens have a right to due process, not summary execution on the order of the president.

I am all for civil rights and due process. So why don't you tell me the protocol for due process when it involves a person deep in enemy territory and under their protection. Do you send someone in to serve them a subpena to show up in our on a specific date and hope the process server's next gig isn't that of the star in a beheading video ?

Go ahead I am all ears. You lay it out to me.

 

[marvin martian]

I am all for civil rights and due process.

If that were true, you wouldn't be supporting summary executions solely on the order of the president, with no due process, and based on secret evidence not reviewed by any court. That's a violation of a citizen's human and civil rights. It's no different than the assassinations of citizens that were ordered by Hitler, Stalin, Mao and all your other politicial role models throughout history...

 

[Spamature]

If that were true, you wouldn't be supporting summary executions solely on the order of the president, with no due process, and based on secret evidence not reviewed by any court. That's a violation of a citizen's human and civil rights. It's no different than the assassinations of citizens that were ordered by Hitler, Stalin, Mao and all your other politicial role models throughout history...

The evidence against the person I know of being killed was not secret.

 

[marvin martian]

The evidence against the person I know of being killed was not secret.

Oh, you saw it? What was it?

 

[Dino]

Well the righty bush sycophant media over at Fox Noise can always come out and tell us American torturing captives is just more proof of how awesome we are.

Is war supposed to be pretty, polite, or make us look "awesome"? I'd say "grow up" if I thought there was the slightest chance.

 

[Saladin2]

I thought ISIS was supposed to attack by now?....Coming thru the Southern Border...More Right Wing fear mongering and BULLSHIT