Where do the races divide?

[Boltlady]

There's something that I don't really understand. While there's no doubt in my mind that most of the racial strife that's going on is being orchestrated by those who deliberately want to weaken our country, how is it that so many of the people who are falling for the manipulations are neither black or white?

If you look at the hordes of 'black' protesters so many of them are really very light skinned. Without getting into the right or wrong of what people are believing I have to wonder if some of the more militant 'black' folks are advocating repercussions toward their white relatives. As light skinned as so many are there's obviously a lot who have white mothers or fathers or at least a grandparent or two.

Granted, the majority of the protestors have been peaceful, there are also more and more who are not. Are they ashamed of their white blood? Somehow that doesn't seem to come up. Does that mean they would be OK with violence against those same white relatives?

 

[Emily]

You've brought up a very difficult issue.

Miscegenation creates huge problems. One is the self-loathing that comes from not being able to fully identify with a people, ethnicity, culture, and race. These things are strong and vital to a sense of well-being and peace within oneself, as they bring a feeling of belonging and communal identity. Most people probably don't realize this; it's sub-conscious, and that's even more real.

White/black mixtures create the most difficulty because of the huge divide between the two. Mulattoes can't help but feel lost, disconnected, lacking in a strong sense of self, because they by birth have no ethnic/racial foundation. They're not protesting for their people -- they don't have one. They're fighting for a sense of identity and have nowhere to turn.

Some will say we're all Americans and that's identity enough. It's not, and that's clear from the history of America and the "melting pot" experiment. American is a nationality and a component of identity but doesn't provide the deep sense of community and belonging that race and ethnicity do. Before the American experiment, this was never a large issue. Now, it's epidemic.

The angst you see right here on PJ from certain posters displays the consequences of this lack of identity regularly, though in a different context and on a small scale. We see Whites who've been convinced that their race is the greatest source of evil in history, that their ethnic forebears oppressed and abused and slaughtered, and all manner of "White guilt." They have no sense of identity or belonging because they've rejected what they belong to, or it's been driven out of them. Their bile and vitriol, irrationality and hatred, are on display all the time. You'll almost certainly be able to name posters that fit the type I'm referring to. I bring it up because it's close to home here and maybe will give a picture of what I mean by all this.

Their incessant screeches are really cries for help; they're lost and don't know where to find themselves. This is what you see when those of mixed-race, and White/black mixtures especially, protest against a part of what they are. A self-loathing turned against others, real or imagined, as it so often is in any context. One can only imagine how strong and deeply painful this is for a creature who's very genetic make-up renders any true feelings of belonging impossible.

When someone like me says that miscegenation should be a crime, that segregation was better, or that the different races living separately in their own lands would be ideal, they get called all sorts of hateful things. The root of our belief -- that of White Nationalist -- isn't race hate like we're accused of all the time. It's compassion. The mixed protesters you see are one example of why race-mixing is a crime -- not a crime on the law books now but still a crime against humanity. You're seeing the lost and desperate crying out, in some cases lashing out violently, trying to find themselves and their place in the world. Through no fault of their own, they were deprived of one. It's criminal, and everyone pays the price.

 

[RickWA]

You've brought up a very difficult issue.

Miscegenation creates huge problems. One is the self-loathing that comes from not being able to fully identify with a people, ethnicity, culture, and race. These things are strong and vital to a sense of well-being and peace within oneself, as they bring a feeling of belonging and communal identity. Most people probably don't realize this; it's sub-conscious, and that's even more real.

White/black mixtures create the most difficulty because of the huge divide between the two. Mulattoes can't help but feel lost, disconnected, lacking in a strong sense of self, because they by birth have no ethnic/racial foundation. They're not protesting for their people -- they don't have one. They're fighting for a sense of identity and have nowhere to turn.

Some will say we're all Americans and that's identity enough. It's not, and that's clear from the history of America and the "melting pot" experiment. American is a nationality and a component of identity but doesn't provide the deep sense of community and belonging that race and ethnicity do. Before the American experiment, this was never a large issue. Now, it's epidemic.

The angst you see right here on PJ from certain posters displays the consequences of this lack of identity regularly, though in a different context and on a small scale. We see Whites who've been convinced that their race is the greatest source of evil in history, that their ethnic forebears oppressed and abused and slaughtered, and all manner of "White guilt." They have no sense of identity or belonging because they've rejected what they belong to, or it's been driven out of them. Their bile and vitriol, irrationality and hatred, are on display all the time. You'll almost certainly be able to name posters that fit the type I'm referring to. I bring it up because it's close to home here and maybe will give a picture of what I mean by all this.

Their incessant screeches are really cries for help; they're lost and don't know where to find themselves. This what you see when those of mixed-race, and White/black mixtures especially, protest against a part of what they are. A self-loathing turned against others, real or imagined, as it so often is in any context. One can only imagine how strong and deeply painful this is for a creature who's very genetic make-up renders any true feelings of belonging impossible.

When someone like me says that miscegenation should be a crime, that segregation was better, or that the different races living separately in their own lands would be ideal, they get called all sorts of hateful things. The root of our belief -- that of White Nationalist -- isn't race hate like we're accused of all the time. It's compassion. The mixed protesters you see are one example of why race-mixing is a crime -- not a crime on the law books now but still a crime against humanity. You're seeing the lost and desperate crying out, in some cases lashing out violently, trying to find themselves and their place in the world. Through no fault of their own, they were deprived of one. It's criminal, and everyone pays the price.

Gotta call BS here, Emily. Racial "purity" isn't where any child, properly loved, derives his/her worth. What you call "mixing" is neither bad nor good. It simply is.

Good people are good - regardless of "husbandry" (my term, not yours).

We need to focus more on goodness - not mixology.

 

[Emily]

Gotta call BS here, Emily. Racial "purity" isn't where any child, properly loved, derives his/her worth. What you call "mixing" is neither bad nor good. It simply is.
Good people are good - regardless of "husbandry" (my term, not yours).
We need to focus more on goodness - not mixology.

With all due respect, I wasn't talking about "worth." I was talking about identity and belonging and sense of self and of place.
Yes, "good people are good" and we should "focus more on goodness" -- teaching it and instilling it. Absolutely. The protesters Boltlady spoke of in the top post aren't necessarily bad and I didn't say they were. I said they were lost and seeking.
Mixing denies a complete identity to anyone, good or bad, "properly loved" or not.

 

[RickWA]

With all due respect, I wasn't talking about "worth." I was talking about identity and belonging and sense of self and of place.
Yes, "good people are good" and we should "focus more on goodness" -- teaching it and instilling it. Absolutely. The protesters Boltlady spoke of in the top post aren't necessarily bad and I didn't say they were. I said they were lost and seeking.
Mixing denies a complete identity to anyone, good or bad, "properly loved" or not.

Mixing denies nothing.

Whether it is race, religion, or creed/race. Mixing does not deny "a complete identity". Substituting a caretaker government for a mom and dad...now THAT denies identity.

 

[Jen]

You've brought up a very difficult issue.

Miscegenation creates huge problems. One is the self-loathing that comes from not being able to fully identify with a people, ethnicity, culture, and race. These things are strong and vital to a sense of well-being and peace within oneself, as they bring a feeling of belonging and communal identity. Most people probably don't realize this; it's sub-conscious, and that's even more real.

White/black mixtures create the most difficulty because of the huge divide between the two. Mulattoes can't help but feel lost, disconnected, lacking in a strong sense of self, because they by birth have no ethnic/racial foundation. They're not protesting for their people -- they don't have one. They're fighting for a sense of identity and have nowhere to turn.

Some will say we're all Americans and that's identity enough. It's not, and that's clear from the history of America and the "melting pot" experiment. American is a nationality and a component of identity but doesn't provide the deep sense of community and belonging that race and ethnicity do. Before the American experiment, this was never a large issue. Now, it's epidemic.

The angst you see right here on PJ from certain posters displays the consequences of this lack of identity regularly, though in a different context and on a small scale. We see Whites who've been convinced that their race is the greatest source of evil in history, that their ethnic forebears oppressed and abused and slaughtered, and all manner of "White guilt." They have no sense of identity or belonging because they've rejected what they belong to, or it's been driven out of them. Their bile and vitriol, irrationality and hatred, are on display all the time. You'll almost certainly be able to name posters that fit the type I'm referring to. I bring it up because it's close to home here and maybe will give a picture of what I mean by all this.

Their incessant screeches are really cries for help; they're lost and don't know where to find themselves. This what you see when those of mixed-race, and White/black mixtures especially, protest against a part of what they are. A self-loathing turned against others, real or imagined, as it so often is in any context. One can only imagine how strong and deeply painful this is for a creature who's very genetic make-up renders any true feelings of belonging impossible.

When someone like me says that miscegenation should be a crime, that segregation was better, or that the different races living separately in their own lands would be ideal, they get called all sorts of hateful things. The root of our belief -- that of White Nationalist -- isn't race hate like we're accused of all the time. It's compassion. The mixed protesters you see are one example of why race-mixing is a crime -- not a crime on the law books now but still a crime against humanity. You're seeing the lost and desperate crying out, in some cases lashing out violently, trying to find themselves and their place in the world. Through no fault of their own, they were deprived of one. It's criminal, and everyone pays the price.

I don't think I agree here. There are no doubt some people with conflict of their origins, but when that happens, I think there is a deeper problem there that causes the conflict.

All of us are products of mixtures. In some the mixture is more diverse than it is in others. But pure races are weaker than mixes (physically-speaking). I am mostly German. My son is Mexican/ German. He feels fine. Not deprived at all in any way. His son is Mexican/German/Filipino and he won't feel "odd" either. I don't see any cultural deprivation at all.I see cultural richness.

I think if our family units are strong, if segregation is allowed if it's wanted, but nobody is forced either way, things will be okay. When we are forced into "affirmative action" or forced to bus our kids to mixed schools, it goes badly for everyone.

It's the forced thing that goes badly. Back in the 70's when women started forcing their way into the man clubs (a la Murphy Brown) it was the same sort of thing. Nothing that's forced does well.

I think our mistake is forcing things to be a certain way. Just let life flow and it'll be okay. Maybe we should go back to being classic liberals............. the way liberals were back before they became so tense about "fairness".

 

[Jen]

Mixing denies nothing.

Whether it is race, religion, or creed/race. Mixing does not deny "a complete identity". Substituting a caretaker government for a mom and dad...now THAT denies identity.

Exactly