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Which of these Obamacare provisions should be repealed?

Bugsy McGurk

Bugsy McGurk

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After all, the GOP's mantra is "repeal and replace."

Should all of these povisions be repealed? Just some of them? Which ones?

1. Children up to the age of 26 can stay on their parents' policies as they establish themselves in society.
2. Insurers can go longer exclude coverage or pre-rexisting conditions.
3. Insurers can no longer impose "caps" on benfits.
4. Insurers can no longer throw people off their policies when they get sick.
5. People will no longer be tethered to their jobs for health insurance - they can start their own businesses or work elsewhere if they wish.
6. Health care services for women (and men) must be covered.
7. Insurers must compete with each other for business on exchanges.
8. The Medicare "donut hole" was closed - a huge help for seniors.
 
shouldnt #5 have a caveat...but the poor will be tethered to their subsidies
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There's your answer. Subsidies for those who can't afford the full cost of a private sector insurance policy is what most Republican voters oppose - even those Republican voters who qualify for subsidies. They'd rather just not have insurance at all and let someone else worry about paying their medical bills when they get sick.
 
NightSwimmer said:
There's your answer. Subsidies for those who can't afford the full cost of a private sector insurance policy is what most Republican voters oppose - even those Republican voters who qualify for subsidies. They'd rather just not have insurance at all and let someone else worry about paying their medical bills when they get sick.
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what opposition was expressed?

better that you throw some Hoss-ian inspired quote as insult....
 
PhilFish said:
shouldnt #5 have a caveat...but the poor will be tethered to their subsidies
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Absurd. If they make enough money they will not be tethered to anything. And I'm not quite sure "tethered" is the right word as to people who could not afford any insurance before the ACA.

But you digress - should we repeal any of those ACA provisions?
 
NightSwimmer said:
There's your answer. Subsidies for those who can't afford the full cost of a private sector insurance policy is what most Republican voters oppose - even those Republican voters who qualify for subsidies. They'd rather just not have insurance at all and let someone else worry about paying their medical bills when they get sick.
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Hard to say - their Obama hate leads them to oppose anything Obama supports. Ascribing some additional motive to them is dicey.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Absurd. If they make enough money they will not be tethered to anything. And I'm not quite sure "tethered" is the right word as to people who could not afford any insurance before the ACA.

But you digress - should we repeal any of those ACA provisions?
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right, they'll be working instead..

but yes you digress..

no, dont think we shoudl repeal a thing. does that help?
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
After all, the GOP's mantra is "repeal and replace."

Should all of these povisions be repealed? Just some of them? Which ones?

1. Children up to the age of 26 can stay on their parents' policies as they establish themselves in society.
2. Insurers can go longer exclude coverage or pre-rexisting conditions.
3. Insurers can no longer impose "caps" on benfits.
4. Insurers can no longer throw people off their policies when they get sick.
5. People will no longer be tethered to their jobs for health insurance - they can start their own businesses or work elsewhere if they wish.
6. Health care services for women (and men) must be covered.
7. Insurers must compete with each other for business on exchanges.
8. The Medicare "donut hole" was closed - a huge help for seniors.
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I notice you refrain from mentioning its unpopular measures -- such as the mandate to purchase insurance. Or the cancellation of low-cost insurance policies. Or the fact that it ties itself to Medicare, something that those already on Medicare did not desire.
And 5 is simply nonsense -- yes, you're "free" to continue on the exchange, but only if you can afford the premium you pay, plus the premium your employer pays -- that's true even under Obamacare. In theory, this amount is less than it would have been if you'd purchased non-group insurance in the past, but in reality it will still be doulbe, or triple, the amount of a normal, employer-assisted, premium.

Seven is also fundamentally a lie, as insurers already competed with each other before Obamacare, or even Obama, was a gleam in the creator's eye.
 
9. 80% of premiums collected must be expended upon actual medical care for policy holders.

I suspect they'd oppose that one, as well.
 
trapdoor said:
I notice you refrain from mentioning its unpopular measures -- such as the mandate to purchase insurance. Or the cancellation of low-cost insurance policies. Or the fact that it ties itself to Medicare, something that those already on Medicare did not desire.
And 5 is simply nonsense -- yes, you're "free" to continue on the exchange, but only if you can afford the premium you pay, plus the premium your employer pays -- that's true even under Obamacare. In theory, this amount is less than it would have been if you'd purchased non-group insurance in the past, but in reality it will still be doulbe, or triple, the amount of a normal, employer-assisted, premium.

Seven is also fundamentally a lie, as insurers already competed with each other before Obamacare, or even Obama, was a gleam in the creator's eye.
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I take it by your off-topic carping that you don't want any of the listed ACA provisions repealed.

Let me know if you change your mind.
 
C'mon now...surely we must have at least one poster who wants at least one of the listed ACA provisions repealed?

No? You like them all?

;-)
 
Hell, I even like the fact that insurance providers can no longer treat being of the female gender as a "preexisting medical condition".
 
Still looking...

For those who oppose the ACA, can not one of you say you want to repeal any of the provisions listed in the TP?

None? Nobody?

You all want to keep them all?
 
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