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Why Black Lives Matter is needed

JuliefromOhio

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Conservative David Frum offers many points about our America's gun culture, but makes quite the statement about what happens to white men versus black men carrying.

...the right to carry arms is America’s most unequally upheld right.

Ohio is an open-carry state. Yet Tamir Rice, a black 12-year-old, was shot dead in Cleveland within seconds of being observed carrying what proved to be a pellet gun. John Crawford was shot dead for moving around an Ohio Walmart with an air rifle he had picked up from a display shelf.

Minnesota allows concealed-carry permit-holders to open carry if they wish—yet Minnesotan Philando Castile was killed after merely telling a police officer he had a legal gun in his car.

On the other hand, every white man who played vigilante in Charlottesville this weekend went home unharmed to his family, having successfully overawed the police—and having sent a chilling message of warning to lawful protesters.

No other democracy on Earth tolerates such antics. When libertarian-minded Americans lament the over-militarization of police, they might give some thought to what it takes to police a society where potential lawbreakers think it their right to accumulate force that would do credit to a Somali warlord. And not only accumulate it, but carry that force into public to brandish against fellow citizens who think differently from their local paramilitaries.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...graver/537087/

Trump's DOJ has yet to show any concern for the Ohio black men (and child) killed in this manner. Who else will speak up for them if not Black Lives Matter?
 
Over 33,000 deaths due to gun injuries in this country. 762 of them were in Chicago. Why are you singling out one place or group ?
You conveniently left out the fact that 63% of those deaths by guns were suicides and that these figures are from 2013. Chicago has approx 1 % of the US Population and 7.2% of homicides by gun.
 
Any comment about Chicago?
Like what, that a terrible gun culture and rising up among it's youth ? That the gun laws in the surrounding states facilitate gun trafficking that feeds that gun culture ? That it's held up as a meaningless scapegoat where only the problem is pointed out by people like you but never any solutions ? That just like drugs no group is immune to these kinds of problems once they start to take hold ?
What do you think I should say about Chicago ?
 
You conveniently left out the fact that 63% of those deaths by guns were suicides and that these figures are from 2013. Chicago has approx 1 % of the US Population and 7.2% of homicides by gun.

So suicide deaths by gun are NOT gun deaths?

Really?

Also, who cares about the % of 187 by guns there are other places that are full of gun violence
 
Over 33,000 deaths due to gun injuries in this country. 762 of them were in Chicago. Why are you singling out one place or group ?

Chicago has one of the strictest gunlaws, but it doesn't help. That is not the answer, its more of a culture problem and Chicago demonstrates it in spades with their killinds.
 
Chicago has one of the strictest gunlaws, but it doesn't help. That is not the answer, its more of a culture problem and Chicago demonstrates it in spades with their killinds.

Gunrunners don't care about the gun laws in the place they're running guns. Yeah the problem is culture, gun culture. Don't leave out the gun part. Cultures migrate, to and fro. 20yrs ago many places didn't have the drug culture they do today. No group is immune to these kinds of problems. Maybe if we pay attention to them when they are a problem for people you don't give a shite about. We can prevent them for taking hold among people you do give a damn about.
 
Do something about the Chicago carnage and then maybe I will listen to this argument.

What does that have to do with the fact that blacks are treated differently than whites when it comes to guns? Let's blame that on the NRA, shall we?

btw, everyone knows you don't give a shit about black men being killed.
 
Any comment about Chicago?

Aw, my top post was too difficult for you to comprehend and comment on?

My premise that BLM is needed because no one else, and for sure the racist Trump admin aren't addressing the disparate treatment of blacks with guns and whites with guns. Makes a mockery of NRA "2nd amendment 4 everyone," doesn't it?
 
What does that have to do with the fact that blacks are treated differently than whites when it comes to guns? Let's blame that on the NRA, shall we?

btw, everyone knows you don't give a shit about black men being killed.

So you think killing cops and hating on whites is the solution?
 
What does that have to do with the fact that blacks are treated differently than whites when it comes to guns? Let's blame that on the NRA, shall we?

btw, everyone knows you don't give a shit about black men being killed.
More whites are killed by cops than blacks even though blacks have higher incidence of crime and contact with police. And more cops are killed by blacks than are killed by whites.

The 911 calls come where they come from and the dead bodies lie where they lie.
 
Over 33,000 deaths due to gun injuries in this country. 762 of them were in Chicago. Why are you singling out one place or group ?
I'm not concerned with people who decide to take a gun and kill themselves why is it important to you? I suppose you think it strengthens your anti-gun position.
 
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