Why there will NEVER be a Tea Party "3rd Party"...

[GordonGecko]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/12/third-party-ronald-reagan-1976-101335.html?hp=l8

Good read (BTW, conservative writers).

Interesting historical footnote. How Holmes Tuttle "dressed down" Ronald Reagan and told him "No, you will remain a Republican" when the Gipper toyed with the idea of leading a "conservative 3rd Party" and Reagan dutifully obeyed.

Anyway, keep this in mind next time you hear some TPer claiming "We may just go 3rd Party if the RINO Establishment types keep disrespectin' us!". It's bullshit.

 

[SW48]

How about a party that took the middle and only the most popular views on each issue.

Not that it would ever happen but would that work?

Seems like it might as people outside of PJ are tired of both parties.

 

[GordonGecko]

How about a party that took the middle and only the most popular views on each issue.

Not that it would ever happen but would that work?

Seems like it might as people outside of PJ are tired of both parties.

Nobody will see a serious "3rd Party" arise....from the Left or Right.

The Left learned their lesson with Ralph Nader in 2000.....s'why Ralph did his "vote trading" in 2004 to try to make up for the fact that if a mere 900 Nader votes in FL in 2000 had been "traded"....Dubya would have lost.

The Right learned there lesson, atleast as far back as Perot in 1992....but as the article notes, going back even further to 1976 and the squashing the idea of a "conservative 3rd Party" led by Reagan.

Even Reagan saw the futility and self-defeat in doing that.

There will NEVER be a "Tea Party 3rd Party"....not a serious one, anyway. Even a goodly number of TPers know that it will merely "split the vote" and assure Democratic wins.

Anybody who talks 3rd Party...again, Left or Right.....is merely waxing self-righteous (trying to show how "pure" they are in their ideology) and engaging in mental masturbation.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

"Take it from Rusher: It is “dangerous,” he wrote a few years ago, for the right to “engage in maneuvers that try to narrow the GOP’s appeal to militant conservatives only.” Buckley and a chastened Rusher would try to shepherd those wayward conservatives back into more orderly discourse—and a single Republican party."

the tea party base doesn't care about the problem that purity and fracturing creates for winning elections. they're going to get hammered by business and the Chamber for putting up radical primary challengers. will they then fall in line? no way.....and this will extend to 2016. should be fun to watch.

 

[marvin martian]

Gordon, it seems your hard on for single party fascism has attracted our resident Holocaust denier, Julie, in predictable fashion...

 

[GordonGecko]

Gordon, it seems your hard on for single party fascism has attracted our resident Holocaust denier, Julie, in predictable fashion...

And your WAY off the subject, non-responsive, ad hominem posts are always predictable, marv.

I realize it's a Quixotic quest to ask you for an actual opinion on a Top Post subject matter....but I'll try once again.

Got one?

 

[GordonGecko]

"Take it from Rusher: It is “dangerous,” he wrote a few years ago, for the right to “engage in maneuvers that try to narrow the GOP’s appeal to militant conservatives only.” Buckley and a chastened Rusher would try to shepherd those wayward conservatives back into more orderly discourse—and a single Republican party."

the tea party base doesn't care about the problem that purity and fracturing creates for winning elections. they're going to get hammered by business and the Chamber for putting up radical primary challengers. will they then fall in line? no way.....and this will extend to 2016. should be fun to watch.

Given Boehner's recent public "spanking" of the Tea Party....I'd say that he has gotten the word that the Big Money Boys and the RNC Guys have had enough of Tea Party silliness and are dropping the hammer.

Another clue that there will NOT be a "Tea Party 3rd Party".....if it actually was a possibility, Boehner, the Chamber of Commerce, Rove, etc. wouldn't be publicly humiliating the TPers, they'd be scared of them.

and they're not.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

Given Boehner's recent public "spanking" of the Tea Party....I'd say that he has gotten the word that the Big Money Boys and the RNC Guys have had enough of Tea Party silliness and are dropping the hammer.

Another clue that there will NOT be a "Tea Party 3rd Party".....if it actually was a possibility, Boehner, the Chamber of Commerce, Rove, etc. wouldn't be publicly humiliating the TPers, they'd be scared of them.

and they're not.

agree they won't go 3rd party, but nothing will stop them from challenging the GOP establishment. this is the crowd that insisted on voting 40+ times to repeal the ACA. they truly fit the definition of insanity......doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. they won't learn from being burnt. mind you, they've also gotten dumber through the years. 10% MORE of them now don't believe in evolution.

 

[marvin martian]

And your WAY off the subject, non-responsive, ad hominem posts are always predictable, marv.

I realize it's a Quixotic quest to ask you for an actual opinion on a Top Post subject matter....but I'll try once again.

Got one?

I already gave you my opinion on your post. It illustrates your hard on for single party fascism, and it predictably attracted your like-minded, Holocaust-denying compatriot Julie...

 

[NightSwimmer]

How about a party that took the middle and only the most popular views on each issue.

Not that it would ever happen but would that work?

Seems like it might as people outside of PJ are tired of both parties.

That's how the Democrats have been winning elections lately. I'm no Democrat, nor am I a Republican. I've been around long enough to remember when the Democratic Party was hijacked by left-wing extremists just as the Republican Party has now been hijacked by right-wing extremists.

I have no use for radical extremists of either variety, nor for the prospect of anarchy and/or revolution, which is what Republican political leaders have been preaching recently. I'm a pragmatist who only wants good government.

The more-or-less 20% of the population who adhere to the Tea Party movement like to believe that they represent the mainstream, if not the majority of Americans regarding political ideology. They do not. They're merely not bright enough to grasp that simple fact. Let them continue to destroy the GOP from within. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.