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Fox didn't tell you this, of course, but the bill makes it so you can't register to vote without a passport, one of the dozens of barriers to voting recently erected (on the pretext of solving the non-problem of ineligible people voting) that overlap to make it very difficult for those who aren't rich to be able to vote. This bill also interferes with the constitutional prerogative of states and cities that choose to do so to allow noncitizens to vote in their local elections.
 
EatTheRich said:
Fox didn't tell you this, of course, but the bill makes it so you can't register to vote without a passport, one of the dozens of barriers to voting recently erected (on the pretext of solving the non-problem of ineligible people voting) that overlap to make it very difficult for those who aren't rich to be able to vote. This bill also interferes with the constitutional prerogative of states and cities that choose to do so to allow noncitizens to vote in their local elections.
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Link didn't have a damn thing to do with Local elections
City’s migrant debit-card spending balloons — as no-bid vendor rakes in a fortune (msn.com)

While you suffer trying to pay rent!
NYC is spending $BILLION housing illegals in hotels and $Million on debit cards

NYC hotels that converted into migrant shelters set to rake in over $1B in taxpayer funds: internal docs (msn.com)
 
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EatTheRich said:
Fox didn't tell you this, of course, but the bill makes it so you can't register to vote without a passport, one of the dozens of barriers to voting recently erected (on the pretext of solving the non-problem of ineligible people voting) that overlap to make it very difficult for those who aren't rich to be able to vote. This bill also interferes with the constitutional prerogative of states and cities that choose to do so to allow noncitizens to vote in their local elections.
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is there a link to this? it sounds like completely made up BS. All the debate up to this point includes valid ID's such as drivers licenses, state issued ID cards, as well as passports.

if this bill actually says passports only, i'll apologize. But generally your posts are unreliable BS without links.
 
as seen on tv said:
is there a link to this? it sounds like completely made up BS. All the debate up to this point includes valid ID's such as drivers licenses, state issued ID cards, as well as passports.

if this bill actually says passports only, i'll apologize. But generally your posts are unreliable BS without links.
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Yes, ETR lately post much BS

Oh, 3rd World NYC have illegals lined up for ID's
NYC pols fume as migrants keep getting dumped on one borough: ‘It’s like the third world’ (msn.com)

No wonder so many yankees are moving South
 
Dawg said:
Link didn't have a damn thing to do with Local elections
City’s migrant debit-card spending balloons — as no-bid vendor rakes in a fortune (msn.com)

While you suffer trying to pay rent!
NYC is spending $BILLION housing illegals in hotels and $Million on debit cards

NYC hotels that converted into migrant shelters set to rake in over $1B in taxpayer funds: internal docs (msn.com)
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Yup, enforcing unrealistic restrictions on legal immigration hurts all of us financially.
 
as seen on tv said:
is there a link to this? it sounds like completely made up BS. All the debate up to this point includes valid ID's such as drivers licenses, state issued ID cards, as well as passports.

if this bill actually says passports only, i'll apologize. But generally your posts are unreliable BS without links.
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House-Dem-whip-question-SAVE-act - DocumentCloud

As we've seen a number of times this Congress, House Republicans continue to irresponsibly call into question the credibility of our elections. Despite numerous recounts, challenges in court, and deep-dives by conservative think-tanks, there has been zero evidence of the widespread fraud that this bill purports to target. It is already illegal under current law for noncitizens to register to vote or to vote in federal elections. Once again, the “party of states’ rights" would supersede individual state law by amending the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) to require voters in all states to show “documentary proof of citizenship” (DPOC) in order to register to vote. These changes would prevent Americans from registering to vote with their drivers’ license alone, as REAL ID does not indicate citizenship and is in fact available to noncitizens. Under the SAVE Act, for the overwhelming majority of Americans, the only acceptable standalone form of identification for use in voter registration would be a passport (or passport card). A REAL ID drivers’ license, a Tribal ID, or a military ID would be unacceptable unless coupled with additional documentation, such as a birth certificate or an extract from a birth record that proves the applicant was born in the United States. This would be an extreme burden for countless Americans, including military voters, Native voters, people who have changed their names (including tens of millions ofAmerican women), the elderly, the young, the poor, and naturalized citizens. Notably, the bill also allows election officials to be sued for registering any applicant who doesn't provide DPOC and subjects those same election officials to a penalty of up to 5-years in federal prison and hefty fines, even if that registrant is an eligible American citizen. The bill also requires the Social Security Administration (SSA) — which is already stretched thin and receives no additional funding in this bill ~ to provide any state election official with “such information as may be necessary” to prove that a voter is a citizen. By opening avenues to further intimidate election officials and overburden states’ abilties to enroll new voters, House Republicans make it clear who they believe should be allowed the right to vote and, more importantly, who they believe should not.

You not only owe me an apology for calling something you could easily have googled "made up BS" ... you also need to back up the claim that I EVER make factual claims that I can't back up with links to reliable sources, or apologize again.
 
EatTheRich said:
House-Dem-whip-question-SAVE-act - DocumentCloud

As we've seen a number of times this Congress, House Republicans continue to irresponsibly call into question the credibility of our elections. Despite numerous recounts, challenges in court, and deep-dives by conservative think-tanks, there has been zero evidence of the widespread fraud that this bill purports to target. It is already illegal under current law for noncitizens to register to vote or to vote in federal elections. Once again, the “party of states’ rights" would supersede individual state law by amending the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) to require voters in all states to show “documentary proof of citizenship” (DPOC) in order to register to vote. These changes would prevent Americans from registering to vote with their drivers’ license alone, as REAL ID does not indicate citizenship and is in fact available to noncitizens. Under the SAVE Act, for the overwhelming majority of Americans, the only acceptable standalone form of identification for use in voter registration would be a passport (or passport card). A REAL ID drivers’ license, a Tribal ID, or a military ID would be unacceptable unless coupled with additional documentation, such as a birth certificate or an extract from a birth record that proves the applicant was born in the United States. This would be an extreme burden for countless Americans, including military voters, Native voters, people who have changed their names (including tens of millions ofAmerican women), the elderly, the young, the poor, and naturalized citizens. Notably, the bill also allows election officials to be sued for registering any applicant who doesn't provide DPOC and subjects those same election officials to a penalty of up to 5-years in federal prison and hefty fines, even if that registrant is an eligible American citizen. The bill also requires the Social Security Administration (SSA) — which is already stretched thin and receives no additional funding in this bill ~ to provide any state election official with “such information as may be necessary” to prove that a voter is a citizen. By opening avenues to further intimidate election officials and overburden states’ abilties to enroll new voters, House Republicans make it clear who they believe should be allowed the right to vote and, more importantly, who they believe should not.

You not only owe me an apology for calling something you could easily have googled "made up BS" ... you also need to back up the claim that I EVER make factual claims that I can't back up with links to reliable sources, or apologize again.
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Professionals don't need to do research, that much is OBVIOUS by now - c'mon man you knew that about the professional. So hypocritical when the professional has been debunked many, many , many times for posting " made up bs ' trying to be like Hannity
 
sensible don said:
Professionals don't need to do research, that much is OBVIOUS by now - c'mon man you knew that about the professional. So hypocritical when the professional has been debunked many, many , many times for posting " made up bs ' trying to be like Hannity
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Like when they post Michelle Huckabee:)
 
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