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Wahbooz

Wahbooz

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Who made them the law? My comment about the loon at the bar, and the pickup truck with the Bunkerville yadda yadda yadda license plate, brought out all kinds of comments from the feral group. But looking at this video reminds me of Dickie Wilson's GOON Squad at Pine Ridge in the 1970's, one of the situations that brought on the Wounded Knee take over of 1973.

And don't try to tell me any of this is anything like AIM's standoff, because it's not.
 
Wahbooz said:
Who made them the law? My comment about the loon at the bar, and the pickup truck with the Bunkerville yadda yadda yadda license plate, brought out all kinds of comments from the feral group. But looking at this video reminds me of Dickie Wilson's GOON Squad at Pine Ridge in the 1970's, one of the situations that brought on the Wounded Knee take over of 1973.

And don't try to tell me any of this is anything like AIM's standoff, because it's not.
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What this all shows is that we are not nearly as live-and-let-live as we claim to be. Or, at best, we are perhaps live-and-let-live-with-damning-commentary.
I am as guilty as any in this regard. I champion freedom, but sometimes I do so with unsolicited commentary.
We need to lighten up.
 
RickWA said:
What this all shows is that we are not nearly as live-and-let-live as we claim to be. Or, at best, we are perhaps live-and-let-live-with-damning-commentary.
I am as guilty as any in this regard. I champion freedom, but sometimes I do so with unsolicited commentary.
We need to lighten up.
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These guys are nothing more than a boiling point of hate for the government, and they're looking for any reason; even a thief who is stealing resources.

What I find disgusting is any attempt at making this seem anywhere near what the Native struggle has been like.

They don't know that the GOON's were provided ammunition and M16's to fire upon the traditionals at Pine Ridge, and this was provided by the FBI. Leonard Peltier still sits in prison for a murder that was precipitated by the FBI itself.
 
RickWA said:
What this all shows is that we are not nearly as live-and-let-live as we claim to be. Or, at best, we are perhaps live-and-let-live-with-damning-commentary.
I am as guilty as any in this regard. I champion freedom, but sometimes I do so with unsolicited commentary.
We need to lighten up.
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Yes we do, Rick.
It's not easy though.
 
Wahbooz said:
These guys are nothing more than a boiling point of hate for the government, and they're looking for any reason; even a thief who is stealing resources.

What I find disgusting is any attempt at making this seem anywhere near what the Native struggle has been like.

They don't know that the GOON's were provided ammunition and M16's to fire upon the traditionals at Pine Ridge, and this was provided by the FBI. Leonard Peltier still sits in prison for a murder that was precipitated by the FBI itself.
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Ok. But haven't you noticed that people tend to "hate the government" selectively? One side cites Ruby Ridge and Waco. The other is all about Mumia and Peltier.
It's all perfect. We citizens practice selective hatred and ascribe manifest righteousness to a side, and then numb ourselves to the other.
I've said it before...but someone has us right where they want us.
 
RickWA said:
Ok. But haven't you noticed that people tend to "hate the government" selectively? One side cites Ruby Ridge and Waco. The other is all about Mumia and Peltier.
It's all perfect. We citizens practice selective hatred and ascribe manifest righteousness to a side, and then numb ourselves to the other.
I've said it before...but someone has us right where they want us.
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You lost me, Rick, maybe i don't get what you're saying. Bunkerville to me would be nothing more than arming to support some guy who went into the local grocery store and robbed and shot the clerk.

Maybe some citizens practice selective hatred, but I fail to see how the Native struggle could ever be seen as that.
 
I do understand one thing though. There definitely is someone who "has us right where they want us". They want to do away with the government, instead of cleaning it up. I suppose they'd rather see big business running the country. And these militias are playing right into their hands.

If people are concerned about losing their 2nd Amendment rights, they better be concerned then if that should ever happen.
 
Wahbooz said:
I do understand one thing though. There definitely is someone who "has us right where they want us". They want to do away with the government, instead of cleaning it up. I suppose they'd rather see big business running the country. And these militias are playing right into their hands.

If people are concerned about losing their 2nd Amendment rights, they better be concerned then if that should ever happen.
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Interesting. The only called for introspection involves some anarchists.
Never mind.
 
RickWA said:
Interesting. The only called for introspection involves some anarchists.
Never mind.
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It would be interesting if the anarchists did do some introspection, but I doubt that would ever happen.

If they think they've got it so bad, in this country, they should see the homes at Pine Ridge that were blown full of holes by the GOON's. Even though he still wasn't being honest, Duane Brewer pretty much laid out what it was like at Pine Ridge at about 8 minutes. He was one of the leaders of the GOON's.

 
Wahbooz said:
I do understand one thing though. There definitely is someone who "has us right where they want us". They want to do away with the government, instead of cleaning it up. I suppose they'd rather see big business running the country. And these militias are playing right into their hands.

If people are concerned about losing their 2nd Amendment rights, they better be concerned then if that should ever happen.
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Interesting. The only called for introspection involves some anarchists.
Never mind.
Wahbooz said:
It would be interesting if the anarchists did do some introspection, but I doubt that would ever happen.

If they think they've got it so bad, in this country, they should see the homes at Pine Ridge that were blown full of holes by the GOON's. Even though he still wasn't being honest, Duane Brewer pretty much laid out what it was like at Pine Ridge at about 8 minutes. He was one of the leaders of the GOON's.

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Yep. The only folks who "got it bad" are the folks you agree have it bad.
 
Yep. The only folks who "got it bad" are the folks you agree have it bad.

Hahaha, one never knows until they walk in someones shoes. That's fine, I wouldn't worry about it. Everybody has their own brand of rose colored glasses.
 
Perhaps I'd be a 'better citizen' if I allowed the foolishness of some here to convince me that I, of all people, should hate the 'Gubmint' and support the anarchists.

Well, no, not I. I just put them on 'Ignore'.
 
Wahbooz said:
Perhaps I'd be a 'better citizen' if I allowed the foolishness of some here to convince me that I, of all people, should hate the 'Gubmint' and support the anarchists.

Well, no, not I. I just put them on 'Ignore'.
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1) "I of all people" seems to infer special station. On what basis is your righteousness established?
2) No one (at least not I) sought to solicit "Gubmint" hate... why do you capitalize "Gubmint" BTW?? :-/
 
RickWA said:
1) "I of all people" seems to infer special station. On what basis is your righteousness established?
2) No one (at least not I) sought to solicit "Gubmint" hate... why do you capitalize "Gubmint" BTW?? :-/
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1. Because that is how they posted it. Because my ethnicity apparently should foment a hate for the institution itself. My righteousness? What are you trying to say, why not just come out with it.

2. Because I felt like posting it that way. Because that is how they come across to me.
 
Rick's not one of those people. Just because he votes the same way they do in no way indicates that he supports those idiots.
 
NightSwimmer said:
Rick's not one of those people. Just because he votes the same way they do in no way indicates that he supports those idiots.
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Mmmm...ankle. Tasty is it?

Of course you have no clue how I vote. Merely not voting Democrat is sufficient to call Internet lefty to arms - or rather ankles.
 
RickWA said:
Ok. But haven't you noticed that people tend to "hate the government" selectively? One side cites Ruby Ridge and Waco. The other is all about Mumia and Peltier.
It's all perfect. We citizens practice selective hatred and ascribe manifest righteousness to a side, and then numb ourselves to the other.
I've said it before...but someone has us right where they want us.
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Rick,

I cite Ruby Ridge and Waco because I fear another OKC is brewing, and nothing more...

If you for one moment believe I support any loons from left to right then please know I do not, and believe we must have law and order, but I also understand that our government does go out of bounds from time to time...

Too many lunatics in the world today, well too many damn people and the lunatic population is the same percentage even if there is more of them...
 
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