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I have to believe if Christ were here today he'd be mighty ashamed of the slobbering rightwing [so-called] Christians who claim to represent him. Do they exhibit the love and forgiveness he entreated everyone to strive for? He set the perfect example yet man seems to neglect that fact altogether.

Franklin Graham is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Does he set a loving and forgiving example for the Christians today who hang on his every word? Of course not. He goes on national television espousing divisive political rhetoric about the President. None of this is new he's done it before. Weren't we warned about judging others? Are we willing to be judged by the same standard in which we judge? If so, there are a lot of so-called Christians who are in serious trouble.

Today I ran across a bit of encouraging news showing there are still loving Christian leaders who try to set the same example Christ set for them.

Better Witness
..
February 22, 2012


Speaking A Word of Truth


As Christian leaders, pastors, and most importantly followers of Jesus Christ, we are greatly troubled by recent attempts to use faith as a political weapon. From Rick Santorum’s claim that the President’s theology is “not a theology based on the Bible,” to Franklin Graham’s implication that the President may be a Muslim, to the drum beat of false claims about Obama’s so-called “war on religion,” these cynical attempts to use faith as a weapon of political division are bad for our country and especially harmful to the Christian witness.

We can disagree about what it means to be a Christian engaged in politics, but Christians shouldn’t bear false witness. And the teachings of Jesus and the prophets call us in our imperfection to put the most vulnerable among us ahead of our self-interest. As the President said at the last Easter Prayer Breakfast, Jesus “took on the sins of the world – past, present and future – and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection.” This gift of grace should remind Christians to enter the public square with a spirit of humility and respond to all we’ve been given (and forgiven) by serving our neighbor and protecting the vulnerable. That’s how we strengthen our witness. Using faith as a partisan tool weakens it.

No politician or government will ever reflect God’s will perfectly, but we prayerfully call on political leaders and members of the media to return to the issues Jesus and the prophets were most concerned about and to stop using faith as a weapon to advance partisan politics and self-interest.


To read the list of over 100 signators go here...
 
You write a post about judging others and you don't include the left in that?

You have a thousand posts here. You've never noticed the judging and namecalling from the left?
 
I have, let's forgive them all and see if we can, by any means, save some of them.

BTW, how does Jesus feel about you using his name for political positioning?
 
Of course we forgive and hope that we're forgiven as well when we tick people off.

Only God can save. All a mere person can do is show Him to people.
 
not to state the obvious..but.. If Christ were here today..do you think he would bypass say.. adulterers...or aborters of children..or pederasts and molesters...thieves and rapists..murderers and extorters...and beeline straight to neglecters of love and forgiveness>???? ...identified...no...judged by those who admonish said neglecters by passing er...ah....judgement.......while concurrently bludgeoning the faithful with a partizan zeal bordering on rabid?

it's an upside down world which professes to know where others went wrong...while bypassing their own failings.
 
I am greatly troubled by those who pretend that Jesus wants our government to take our money so that they can give it to whomever they decide is in need. And I agree with the author who said that Jesus would not be pleased by those who bear false witness...........and those who say it is the government that Jesus had in mind to distribute money to the poor......... are bearing false witness.

And those who have mis-characterized the words of Franklin Graham and Rick Santorum to further their own political gain........are bearing false witness. I don't think Jesus would be at all pleased by that.

Those who sit smugly pointing their fingers at "Republicans" or "Conservatives" or "Franklin Graham" or "Rick Santorum" rather than examining their own motives should perhaps engage in a little introspection.
 
Christ is here, he's everywhere. So is sin. that's the program. Reach for the one that you need the most.
 
You write a post about judging others and you don't include the left in that?

You have a thousand posts here. You've never noticed the judging and namecalling from the left?

Tell ya what, gi...gi I'll leave it to to you to write a post about the left...you're such an expert.
 
what am I? chopped Liver?

Evangelical preacher for 30 years... go ahead ask me a question, any question.
 
I have to believe if Christ were here today he'd be mighty ashamed of the slobbering rightwing [so-called] Christians who claim to represent him. Do they exhibit the love and forgiveness he entreated everyone to strive for? He set the perfect example yet man seems to neglect that fact altogether.

Franklin Graham is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Does he set a loving and forgiving example for the Christians today who hang on his every word? Of course not. He goes on national television espousing divisive political rhetoric about the President. None of this is new he's done it before. Weren't we warned about judging others? Are we willing to be judged by the same standard in which we judge? If so, there are a lot of so-called Christians who are in serious trouble.

Today I ran across a bit of encouraging news showing there are still loving Christian leaders who try to set the same example Christ set for them.

Better Witness
..
February 22, 2012


Speaking A Word of Truth


As Christian leaders, pastors, and most importantly followers of Jesus Christ, we are greatly troubled by recent attempts to use faith as a political weapon. From Rick Santorum’s claim that the President’s theology is “not a theology based on the Bible,” to Franklin Graham’s implication that the President may be a Muslim, to the drum beat of false claims about Obama’s so-called “war on religion,” these cynical attempts to use faith as a weapon of political division are bad for our country and especially harmful to the Christian witness.

We can disagree about what it means to be a Christian engaged in politics, but Christians shouldn’t bear false witness. And the teachings of Jesus and the prophets call us in our imperfection to put the most vulnerable among us ahead of our self-interest. As the President said at the last Easter Prayer Breakfast, Jesus “took on the sins of the world – past, present and future – and he extended to us that unfathomable gift of grace and salvation through his death and resurrection.” This gift of grace should remind Christians to enter the public square with a spirit of humility and respond to all we’ve been given (and forgiven) by serving our neighbor and protecting the vulnerable. That’s how we strengthen our witness. Using faith as a partisan tool weakens it.

No politician or government will ever reflect God’s will perfectly, but we prayerfully call on political leaders and members of the media to return to the issues Jesus and the prophets were most concerned about and to stop using faith as a weapon to advance partisan politics and self-interest.


To read the list of over 100 signators go here...

Ms. Sandy,

If Christ were here today, I would not be. Little thing called "The Rapture."

I would miss you, though.
 
here's a favorite.... give it a whirl....


“Nobody, certainly, will deny that the idea of the existence of an omnipotent, just, and omnibeneficent personal God is able to accord man solace, help, and guidance; also, by virtue of its simplicity it is accessible to the most undeveloped mind. But, on the other hand, there are decisive weaknesses attached to this idea in itself, which have been painfully felt since the beginning of history. That is, if this being is omnipotent, then every occurrence, including every human action, every human thought, and every human feeling and aspiration is also His work; how is it possible to think of holding men responsible for their deeds and thoughts before such an almighty Being? In giving out punishment and rewards He would to a certain extent be passing judgment on Himself. How can this be combined with the goodness and righteousness ascribed to Him?
 
oh boy, tell ya where you can find it... Isaiah chapter 66... man child is caught up to the throne. It is part of the first resurrection. there is no separate event by itself called the rapture... the word "rapture" is not found once in the New Testament. Now check this out... the man child is a small portion of the church, not everyone is caught up alive in the first resurrection, only the disciples of the two witnesses. So you would be wise to follow two witnesses around and post with him...
 
I agree, Days. Jesus never went and spoke to the government leaders in Rome. He said give Caesar what belongs to him and give God what belongs to Him...........two separate things. Jesus never told us to help the poor through Caesar.......he told us to do it ourselves.

Jesus is in the business of saving souls, not politics. my two cents.
 
that's easy... God is a hypocrite. We used to say it this way; Jesus is the answer, he's also the problem.

Go back to day one and see it right from the start... Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: notice the evil part! Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

so there you have it, he has always combined the two, everything is him, that's how he can judge it all, think of it this way... you clip your toe nails dontcha? same difference
 
Tell ya what, gi...gi I'll leave it to to you to write a post about the left...you're such an expert.

You mean in the way you're such an expert on the right?

I don't claim to be an expert. I was just reading your post and thinking I've seen people on the left do what you're talking about. IT was curious that you didn't see it, too, since you seem to be so tuned in to what people do and think and how they judge.
 
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