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Yeaaaay! Iran "deal" reached. Ending sanctions w/ no verification, no concessions

Personally, I think we need to read the fine print very closely. And why is it that every time I see a picture of John Kerry I want to tell him he forgot to put in his teeth?
 
Dino said:
Really? Who is?

Prove these "Pugs" are lying. ie, back something up for once you coward.
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Your subject line alone has 3 lies in it.

Sanctions are not ended, Iran has made concessions, and there will be verification.

P.S. That screed you linked is over 10 days old - before the deal was even reached. And yet you tout it as describing the deal.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Your subject line alone has 3 lies in it.

Sanctions are not ended, Iran has made concessions, and there will be verification.

P.S. That screed you linked is over 10 days old - before the deal was even reached. And yet you tout it as describing the deal.
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Ok great, you just tell us the steps and entities involved in that verification process, k pardner?
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
I take it you are confessing to 2 of the 3 lies I pointed out?
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LOL...no. I am concerned about the lack of verification. Iran's leadership is announcing they've made no concessions, other than verbal ones. This suggests a lack of seriousness and commitment.
At least if there is verification it would justify the loosening sanctions.

So you find it yet??
 
Charcat said:
Personally, I think we need to read the fine print very closely. And why is it that every time I see a picture of John Kerry I want to tell him he forgot to put in his teeth?
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Well, let's see................. as defensive as Kerry was during the whole speech (who makes a speech about a treaty being reached with half of it being weakly defensive like Kerry pretending that things had been said that weren't said etc etc............it was painful to listen to when he start off on that tangent, but I digress)

Based on his huge defensiveness (which nobody saw but me as far as I can tell) I'd say that we will lift sanctions and Iran can continue to secretly build their bomb and we'll be pretty much off their backs or we'll be accused of cheating whereby they can start making their bomb without the secret.
 
Dino said:
LOL...no. I am concerned about the lack of verification. Iran's leadership is announcing they've made no concessions, other than verbal ones. This suggests a lack of seriousness and commitment.
At least if there is verification it would justify the loosening sanctions.

So you find it yet??
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Nah, you know 2 of the 3 Lies I pointed out are undeniable. So you're hoping you can get off the hook on one of them.

You can't, but it's irrelevant - my point was that Pugs would lie about the Iran deal. You proved that right up front. The sanctions were not ended, and Iran made concessions.

The Iran deal may just piss off Pugs more than Obama's snuffing of OBL.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Nah, you know 2 of the 3 Lies I pointed out are undeniable. So you're hoping you can get off the hook on one of them.

You can't, but it's irrelevant - my point was that Pugs would lie about the Iran deal. You proved that right up front. The sanctions were not ended, and Iran made concessions.

The Iran deal may just piss off Pugs more than Obama's snuffing of OBL.
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Know what would have been classier?

Admitting there were no verification processes, or just saying you assumed they were in the agreement because they oughta...instead ya just lied.

Know why? Because you're an unapologetic Obama ass-kisser with no integrity.
 
Jen said:
Well, let's see................. as defensive as Kerry was during the whole speech (who makes a speech about a treaty being reached with half of it being weakly defensive like Kerry pretending that things had been said that weren't said etc etc............it was painful to listen to when he start off on that tangent, but I digress)

Based on his huge defensiveness (which nobody saw but me as far as I can tell) I'd say that we will lift sanctions and Iran can continue to secretly build their bomb and we'll be pretty much off their backs or we'll be accused of cheating whereby they can start making their bomb without the secret.
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Jen, you do know that every US, and Israeli, intelligence agency has stated that Iran has no nuclear weapons programme. The IAEA, who has had Iran nuclear facilities under supervision for over a decade, has consistently reported that they can find no evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons programme. - who do you want to believe, the intelligence agencies, and the IAEA inspectors, or the Israeli PM, who, last week forecast that Iran would have a nuclear weapon in three weeks time?

Iran did have a nuclear weapons programme - under the Shah, and with Americans blessing - the US gave the Shah two nuclear power stations to help his programme along. When the Shah got kicked out, one of the first actions of the Ayatollah Khomeini was to halt that nuke weapons programme, declaring it unIslamic.

The Iranians restarted a nuke weapons programme when they were attacked by Iraq, with US blessing and aid - blessings and aid to Iraq, not Iran. When the US invaded Iraq, in 2003, the Iranians, again, halted their nuke weapons programme. A halt that has been verified by all of the US, and Israeli, intelligence agencies.
 
I hope you righties are in church as we speak praying to god that this fails.
It must be hell to only see negativity as that is all you see. This was a good thing, and let's hope it is successful. But you pathetic souls do what you always do....create your own scenario filled with hope for failure. You hate Obama more than you love your country and it is so obvious
 
Dino said:
Know what would have been classier?

Admitting there were no verification processes, or just saying you assumed they were in the agreement because they oughta...instead ya just lied.

Know why? Because you're an unapologetic Obama ass-kisser with no integrity.
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All the details of the verification measures are the subject of the Sunday talk shows today.

Ready to retract your lies? This is your last chance.
 
Renee said:
I hope you righties are in church as we speak praying to god that this fails.
It must be hell to only see negativity as that is all you see. This was a good thing, and let's hope it is successful. But you pathetic souls do what you always do....create your own scenario filled with hope for failure. You hate Obama more than you love your country and it is so obvious
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They try to sabotage such a hugely important deal for the USA, and then call others "anti-American."

Pugs are a boil on the national ass.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Sane people will be shocked to learn that Pugs are already lying about the Iran deal and hoping it fails.
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Well, the deal does specifically say that there WILL BE ENRICHMENT. This is contrary to what we are being told.
But what do you expect when we have a president who lies about just about EVERYTHING, including the unemployment numbers, just to get elected.
You are a sap if you believe anything this guy or his administration stooges say.

They needed to get this to counter the news about the miserable failure of Obamacare, so they sold the US down the drain, giving Iran billions to sign a phony deal.

Iran would continue enrichment to the 3.5% purity needed for nuclear power stations – but agree to limit the number of centrifuges being used for this purpose. There would, however, be no requirement to remove or disable any other centrifuges.

"Since Iran could advance its program to a point of undetectable breakout during the six-month confidence building period, the Senate will have to act immediately to protect America’s national security – and that means imposing further sanctions on Iran," he said.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4450982,00.html
 
Sgt Staples said:
Well, the deal does specifically say that there WILL BE ENRICHMENT. This is contrary to what we are being told.
But what do you expect when we have a president who lies about just about EVERYTHING, including the unemployment numbers, just to get elected.
You are a sap if you believe anything this guy or his administration stooges say.

They needed to get this to counter the news about the miserable failure of Obamacare, so they sold the US down the drain, giving Iran billions to sign a phony deal.

Iran would continue enrichment to the 3.5% purity needed for nuclear power stations – but agree to limit the number of centrifuges being used for this purpose. There would, however, be no requirement to remove or disable any other centrifuges.

"Since Iran could advance its program to a point of undetectable breakout during the six-month confidence building period, the Senate will have to act immediately to protect America’s national security – and that means imposing further sanctions on Iran," he said.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4450982,00.html
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Iran has always been free to enrich for non-weapons purposes. The restrictions relate to enriching for weapons purposes.

Face it though - no matter what the deal said, treasonous Pugs would try to sabotage it. Anything Obama seeks, Pugs sabotage. You know that.
 
Bugsy McGurk said:
Iran has always been free to enrich for non-weapons purposes. The restrictions relate to enriching for weapons purposes.

Face it though - no matter what the deal said, treasonous Pugs would try to sabotage it. Anything Obama seeks, Pugs sabotage. You know that.
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Kerry and Obama said that there was NO enrichment allowed in the deal. And how in the hell do you think they're going to verify that just 'limited' enrichment is taking place, with UN Inspectors that can't find their arses with both hands and directions?

And even if Iran does only refine to a less pure level, it's one step out of the way, and this deal lets Iran accumuled all of that partially refined Uranium for further enrichment, which will occur much sooner that if no refining had been allowed.

And before you make the charge of TREASON against anybody, you better clean up your own house, because this Obama regime is commiting tons of it, including fraudulently stealing election by lying to the voters about Obamcare, unemployment statistics and Benghazi shortly before the election.

I swear, I've never seen such naiveté on the part of Obamabots.
But this is what Obama and the far left extremist Democrat party count on and that's why an informed voter is the Democrats worst enemy.
 
Sgt Staples said:
Kerry and Obama said that there was NO enrichment allowed in the deal. And how in the hell do you think they're going to verify that just 'limited' enrichment is taking place, with UN Inspectors that can't find their arses with both hands and directions?

And even if Iran does only refine to a less pure level, it's one step out of the way, and this deal lets Iran accumuled all of that partially refined Uranium for further enrichment, which will occur much sooner that if no refining had been allowed.

And before you make the charge of TREASON against anybody, you better clean up your own house, because this Obama regime is commiting tons of it, including fraudulently stealing election by lying to the voters about Obamcare, unemployment statistics and Benghazi shortly before the election.

I swear, I've never seen such naiveté on the part of Obamabots.
But this is what Obama and the far left extremist Democrat party count on and that's why an informed voter is the Democrats worst enemy.
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Seriously, you have all those bizarre thoughts because you've been brainwashed. For example, someone brainwashed you into thinking (or at least saying) there is no verification, when the truth us that there will be daily IAEA inspections.

And yes, it is treasonous to try to sabotage such a deal simply because you hate Obama and love your GOP cult, with what's best for the USA being secondary.
 
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