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YEP says gun nut MORONS....never to young to learn, huh?

NinaS

NinaS

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YEP says gun nut MORONS....never too young to learn, huh?

Reading Saladin's post awhile ago made me think of a school shooting in Jonesboro Arkansas in 1998.
Two cousins, 11 and 13 were the shooters. Yep...they were dang near babies when they learned to shoot daddy's guns.
Why one of them...the 11 yr old's picture was on the cover of TIME magazine in a camoflauge outfit. He was a crack shot.
Why I've read articles about the shooting and it was said that without all that "TRAINING" these boys would not have been able to
kill those kids and teacher from the distance they were shooting from. Yep real smart gun crazy family...teach the kids to be sharp shooters from the time they were toddlers and leave their damn ARSENAL laying around so they could use them on their classmates and teacher. Damn Redneck lunatic gun crazy [Unwelcome language removed] shouldn't be allowed to have kids. Yep CB....you just can't teach them soon enough, can you???>

This cute little boy in camoflauge on the cover of Time Magazine was none other than Andrew Golden when he was a toddler. I bet ma and pa are so damn proud of him....dontcha think?

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Mar 24, 1998:A school shooting in Jonesboro, Arkansas, kills five

Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Andrew Golden, 11, shoot their classmates and teachers in Jonesboro, Arkansas. Golden, the younger of the two boys, asked to be excused from his class, pulled a fire alarm and then ran to join Johnson in a wooded area 100 yards away from the school's gym. As the students streamed out of the building, Johnson and Golden opened fire and killed four students and a teacher. Ten other children were wounded.

The two boys were caught soon afterward. In their possession were thirteen fully loaded firearms, including three semi-automatic rifles, and 200 rounds of ammunition. Their stolen van had a stockpile of supplies as well as a crossbow and several hunting knives. All of the weapons were taken from the Golden family's personal arsenal. Both of the boys had been raised around guns. They belonged to gun clubs and even participated in practical shooting competitions, which involve firing at simulated moving human targets. Golden reportedly shot several dogs in preparation for the actual shooting.

Because Johnson and Golden were thirteen and eleven, they could not be charged as adults in Arkansas. They were both adjudicated as delinquent and sent to reform institutes. They were to be released when they turned eighteen, as they could legally no longer be housed with minors, but Arkansas bought a facility in 1999 that enabled the state to keep the boys in custody until their twenty-first birthdays. Johnson was freed in 2005; Golden was released in 2007. Neither has any criminal record. Arkansas changed its laws following the Jonesboro tragedy so that child murderers can be imprisoned past twenty-one.
School shootings were highly publicized in the media during the late 1990s who ascribed the supposed epidemic to violent movies, television and video games. However, violence against students in school actually went down significantly in the late 1990s, throwing into the question the entire theory.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/a-school-shooting-in-jonesboro-arkansas-kills-five
 
Seeing young children dressed in camos posing with weapons is usually the type of stuff you see with Hamas and Al Fatah...Young terrorists in training...Only they aren't 6,000 miles away
 
Saladin2 said:
Seeing young children dressed in camos posing with weapons is usually the type of stuff you see with Hamas and Al Fatah...Young terrorists in training...Only they aren't 6,000 miles away
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Yes and I think TIME magazine put that picture of the kid when he was a toddler on their cover for a reason. People think it's okay to teach a small child how to be a sharp shooter WAY before that child has the ability to know right from wrong. Sick bastards.
 
This gets interesting about here... "School shootings were highly publicized in the media during the late 1990s who ascribed the supposed epidemic to violent movies, television and video games. However, violence against students in school actually went down significantly in the late 1990s, throwing into the question the entire theory."

So uh, more guns sold, less crimes of violence using them. More guns, less crime..almost sounds like a book title.

Wonder if you read it?
 
Dino said:
This gets interesting about here... "School shootings were highly publicized in the media during the late 1990s who ascribed the supposed epidemic to violent movies, television and video games. However, violence against students in school actually went down significantly in the late 1990s, throwing into the question the entire theory."

So uh, more guns sold, less crimes of violence using them. More guns, less crime..almost sounds like a book title.

Wonder if you read it?
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Kiss off MORON. The article is about KIDS with guns. Teaching toddlers how to shoot and then leaving guns laying around.
Why do you ALWAYS put in your two cents worth when your input isn't worth a plug nickel.

Go find someone else to stalk.
 
The article wasn't about MORE GUNS SOLD LESS VIOLENCE....damn liar. It was talking about tv and video games and violent movies and since the 3 of them have multiplied they're obviously saying that they aren't to blame.
 
I puilled that quote from your link. Gonna blame me for what it says?

It shows that your rants and tantrums aren't statistically accurate and are inconsistent with the reality.

Complain about rifles and "assault weapons", but they account for less than 3% of all homicides involving weapons. There are more axe murders and bludgeonings than there are homicides by rifle.

Whatever is "to blame", you'd have to admit it isn't the prevalence or overall numbers of guns owned, since these numbers have risen while the number of violent crimes using them is lower.
 
Dino said:
I puilled that quote from your link. Gonna blame me for what it says?

It shows that your rants and tantrums aren't statistically accurate and are inconsistent with the reality.

Complain about rifles and "assault weapons", but they account for less than 3% of all homicides involving weapons. There are more axe murders and bludgeonings than there are homicides by rifle.

Whatever is "to blame", you'd have to admit it isn't the prevalence or overall numbers of guns owned, since these numbers have risen while the number of violent crimes using them is lower.
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Evidently they don't make Mall Security Guards take literacy tests in DC because you certainly have piss poor reading comprehension. WHERE IN HELL DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MORE GUNS??

School shootings were highly publicized in the media during the late 1990s who ascribed the supposed epidemic to violent movies, television and video games. However, violence against students in school actually went down significantly in the late 1990s, throwing into the question the entire theory.

The article didn't mention anything about MORE GUNS LESS VIOLENCE or anything of the kind. YOU added that of course. I didn't say anything about MORE GUNS other than the parents or family members having an arsenal that they didn't keep secure and their kid that they taught to be a sharp shooter was able to use them against his classmates.

If you want to talk about your DUMB ASS THEORY about more guns then post your own stupid thread..
 
You are an unintelligent, unread, ignorant jackass.

You think ALL the facts on guns come simply from the one article you cite? Is that it?

Are you even aware of the number of guns owned and how much it has risen? Or how many households now owning guns. how it has risen?

Apparently I'm posting to someone whose knowledge of guns and gun ownership is restricted to the one article she posted.

Is nina short for nincompoop?
 
Dino said:
You are an unintelligent, unread, ignorant jackass.

You think ALL the facts on guns come simply from the one article you cite? Is that it?

Are you even aware of the number of guns owned and how much it has risen? Or how many households now owning guns. how it has risen?

Apparently I'm posting to someone whose knowledge of guns and gun ownership is restricted to the one article she posted.

Is nina short for nincompoop?
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Listen JACKASS...the article I referred to was saying taht DESPITE the rhetoric about movies, games and such being the cause of violence in schools it was obviously disputed. it said NOTHING about how many damn guns are being sold.....NOTHING. You wanted to bring up that subject and pretend it said that violence in schools have nothing to do with the number of guns people own. If you want to make that assertion...then go for it in your own thread.

For someone who whines and bitches and moans about others not staying on topic,. you certainly know how to try to change the subject. These kids killed their classmates with weapons that their parents taught them to use at a young age. I was not referring to your stupid notion that MORE GUNS MEANS LESS VIOLENCE. Take that theory and stick it where the sun doesn't shine. If you have nothing to say about these kids learning to shoot and the FACT that they belonged to clubs for such things and then turning that knowledge into a bloody masacre...then stay the hell out of this thead.
 
Ummm, you can't tell me what I can and cannot post on huh toots? So I guess what you can do, is read this and have a nice glass of shut the [Unwelcome language removed] up. Ok, so here goes, you want to say that violence in schools has dropped DESPITE the movies and TV shows and video games displaying more violence. Thus you conclude that's not the cause of childhood school violence.

Well, I'm telling you for a FACT that the numbers of guns owned, and families possessing guns has never been higher in this country. And so your statistical proof of what causes school violence also applies to the total numbers of guns owned. School violence is low DESPITE the number of guns owned. So just keep howling at the moon.

Did it finally get through your thick repugnant cavewoman skull, Nincompoop?
 
Dino said:
Ummm, you can't tell me what I can and cannot post on huh toots? So I guess what you can do, is read this and have a nice glass of shut the [Unwelcome language removed] up. Ok, so here goes, you want to say that violence in schools has dropped DESPITE the movies and TV shows and video games displaying more violence. Thus you conclude that's not the cause of childhood school violence.

Well, I'm telling you for a FACT that the numbers of guns owned, and families possessing guns has never been higher in this country. And so your statistical proof of what causes school violence also applies to the total numbers of guns owned. School violence is low DESPITE the number of guns owned. So just keep howling at the moon.

Did it finally get through your thick repugnant cavewoman skull, Nincompoop?
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Well BOZO the CLOWN...maybe you should practice what you preach. The SUBJECT was about kids learning to shoot guns and I gave an example where it backfired and the kids used this knowledge to kill their classmates. IN FACT they used part of the arsenal from their family homes because their parents were too damn STUPID to have assault rifles and then keep them unsecured. AS YOU KNOW I was referring to the article about 2 boys and you CHANGED THE SUBJECT like you bitch about when someone else does it. SO maybe you should take a dose of SHUT THE [Unwelcome language removed] UP yourself you overbearing woman abusing [Unwelcome language removed].
 
No surprise there is at least ass hole out spouting this crazed non sense is okay...Kids who are taught to be crack shots!...might come in handy someday when they want to massacre there classmates
 
Saladin2 said:
No surprise there is at least ass hole out spouting this crazed non sense is okay...Kids who are taught to be crack shots!...might come in handy someday when they want to massacre there classmates
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There's absolutely no reason for anyone to train their kid when they are that young to be a sharp shooter. They could be taught that like booze and cigarettes, guns are something that GROWN UPS decide whether to have/use or not. They are too young to defend themselves and could kill the wrong people if they tried. They have no sense of responsibility at that age. Guns, like cars, alcohol and cigarettes are a choice they can make when they are mature enough to realize the consequences. IDIOTS like Eric are no better than Wayne LaPierre....conceited, self-serving and cruel. I wouldn't take the time to speak to someone like that if I knew them personally, let alone have a conversation with them about ANYTHING. So from here on out anything ERIC says to me will get a non-answer just like he gives when he changes every subject to something he feels like he is an expert about. He completely avoided the SUBJECT.....kids killing kids with guns and it being blamed on movies, TV and games. He had to make sure he threw in something he feels like he is an expert about....GUNS, GUNS, and MORE GUNS. Yet I'd guess that he's such a coward (indicated by his constantly running to the Mods here instead of handling his own problems) that he wouldn't have the balls to defend himself or his family if needed unless like Lanza...he had 100x the force his opponent did...then and only then would he maybe be able to shed his yellow coat and step up like a man. I'd guess that the fathers of the two boys they tried to make into men at such a young age are cut from the same cloth as ERIC.
 
A couple of points:

1: Your example show an exception to the rule rather than the rule itself. If the example were the rule, we'd have kids of militia members gunning down people daily. They're not. Millions of kids are 'raised around guns' and they're not shooting up the local schoolhouse.

2: You seem to think (by your top post and subsequent posts) that this is a gun issue when it is clearly not. It is a family issue. What sort of rage caused these boys to do what they did and what caused that rage? It sure as Hell wasn't the availability of guns. Millions of law abiding gun owner (and their kids) are testament to that.

You looking at a symptom, not the problem.
 
I have no doubt the families of those killed would be quite reassured their children's deaths were the exception...not the rule....
 
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