"The coup has started"

[RickWA]

Do you think that was said because just maybe, unlike Trump, some presidents understand that they aren't the only ones in their party running for office in their election years.

So you are asking for some parsing, subtlety, nuance, and context here...correct? We are now not insisting that the substantive quote stands on its own...in a vacuum...but now we should consider the bigger picture?

This is what you are petitioning for here...correct?

(This forum is doomed, because more and more normal people will not continue to do these gymnastics).

 

[Dino]

How did congress have oversight of Iranian funds ?

Who do you think passed the law in the first place?
Congress made the law saying the funds would be used to pay the victims of Iranian terrorism and paid back when they were satisfied such actions had ceased. It was a presumption of Congress they’d have direct input in that decision.

 

[Spamature]

So you are asking for some parsing, subtlety, nuance, and context here...correct? We are now not insisting that the substantive quote stands on its own...in a vacuum...but now we should consider the bigger picture?

This is what you are petitioning for here...correct?

(This forum is doomed, because more and more normal people will not continue to do these gymnastics).

Do you have some specifics that would flesh out the statement overheard on that open mike ? What does your bigger picture look like ?

 

[Spamature]

Who do you think passed the law in the first place?
Congress made the law saying the funds would be used to pay the victims of Iranian terrorism and paid back when they were satisfied such actions had ceased. It was a presumption of Congress they’d have direct input in that decision.

Do you have anything on the passing of this law ? Not doubting it was done just want to understand more about it. Because it kind of sounds like theft.

 

[FakeName]

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Dang!
Go back and read the OP please.

Holy cow, are you serious.

How about you read the Constitution or a dictionary......follow the evidence.....Facts matter.

'Some attorney tweeted.....' Sheesh!

Grow up!

 

[RickWA]

Do you have some specifics that would flesh out the statement overheard on that open mike ? What does your bigger picture look like ?

Awesome. So we now need some meat on the bone. The appearance of impropriety is off the table, correct? It is no longer an issue, because a Democrat did it. The awkward, inopportune optics are now merely unfortunate? Correct? Because, again, a Democrat did it. We now need something remarkably concrete. A depleted uranium-like, hardened case that shows not merely posturing and outcome-gaming...but conclusive, undeniable, unarguably perfect delivery of outcome. Benefit must be shown and realized.

Or not. Yes, I know...

 

[Spamature]

Awesome. So we now need some meat on the bone. The appearance of impropriety is off the table, correct? It is no longer an issue, because a Democrat did it. The awkward, inopportune optics are now merely unfortunate? Correct? Because, again, a Democrat did it. We now need something remarkably concrete. A depleted uranium-like, hardened case that shows not merely posturing and outcome-gaming...but conclusive, undeniable, unarguably perfect delivery of outcome. Benefit must be shown and realized.

Or not. Yes, I know...

That appearance of impropriety up to interpretation it appears. Do you think it would improper for Republicans to twist any ongoing international relations for political gain ? Because they have proven they will do that.


So telling your Russian counterpart that you will wait until after the US election to resume negotiations doesn't sound all that improper unless you have some specifics.

On the other hand calling on Russia to launch a cyber attack in order to obtain what he and Republicans believed were missing classified US State Dept. documents to help your campaign for President does sound improper without any other specifics.

 

[RickWA]

That appearance of impropriety up to interpretation it appears. Do you think it would improper for Republicans to twist any ongoing international relations for political gain ? Because they have proven they will do that.


So telling your Russian counterpart that you will wait until after the US election to resume negotiations doesn't sound all that improper unless you have some specifics.

On the other hand calling on Russia to launch a cyber attack in order to obtain what he and Republicans believed were missing classified US State Dept. documents to help your campaign for President does sound improper.

This is [mildly] humorous, if for no other reason the abject lack of self-awareness. This is the signature trait of lefty.

Of course, Democrats “have proven they will do that” as well. Over and over again. Profoundly so.

I really don’t care about Trump specifically. He’s a self-absorbed, mentally-arrested playboy. What I do care about is strapping you hyper-political kooks with the standards you now deploy. You must live by these.

Well...not really.

 

[Dino]

Do you have anything on the passing of this law ? Not doubting it was done just want to understand more about it. Because it kind of sounds like theft.

Look it up:

Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act (VTVPA)

 

[Tor-Pete-O]

With the level of sensitivity the Democrats are showing the Republicans very well could have impeached Obama quite easily.
They could have for the fast and furious scandal or the return of Iran’s money without Congressional approval. Either could be classified as an abuse of power.

Or after Obobo told Medvedev to tell Vlad Putin he'd have more flexibility after his re-election.

A crystal clear clear example of Russian collision and collaboration if there ever was one.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

As bad as the GOP wanted to, in 8 years they couldn't find anything to impeach Obama over.

So tell me are you proud of Trump? Do you think he works hard at being president - not fundraising/ tweeting, etc but actually doing Presidential work everyday ?

The deal with Iran without Congressional approval
DACA
both grounds for impeachment.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Democrats determined that they would take down our government the minute Trump was inaugurated.
Looking back, that's what should have been done the minute Obama was inaugurated in 2009.

Mark Zaid, one of the attorneys representing the intelligence community whistleblower at the center of the Democrats' ongoing impeachment inquiry, tweeted conspicuously in January 2017 that a "coup has started" and that "impeachment will follow ultimately."

Then, in July 2017, Zaid remarked, "I predict @CNN will play a key role in @realDonaldTrump not finishing out his full term as president."

Democrats will not ever allow any Republican to be president. They have tried to impeach every Republican president since Eisenhower except for Ford who wasn't an elected president.

A flat out admission of sedition. Sadly, nothing will be done. But DemocRATS may regret this. They always seem to forget the pendulum swings both ways.

 

[middleview]

Democrats determined that they would take down our government the minute Trump was inaugurated.
Looking back, that's what should have been done the minute Obama was inaugurated in 2009.

Mark Zaid, one of the attorneys representing the intelligence community whistleblower at the center of the Democrats' ongoing impeachment inquiry, tweeted conspicuously in January 2017 that a "coup has started" and that "impeachment will follow ultimately."

Then, in July 2017, Zaid remarked, "I predict @CNN will play a key role in @realDonaldTrump not finishing out his full term as president."

Democrats will not ever allow any Republican to be president. They have tried to impeach every Republican president since Eisenhower except for Ford who wasn't an elected president.

Perhaps it would help if they didn't have their campaign staff commit burglaries and then cover it up? Maybe they could refrain from secret arms sales to enemy countries or to groups engaged in terrorism? Might help if they wouldn't issue pardons to republicans under investigation...or could they not publicize the names of covert CIA agents?

Too much to ask?

 

[middleview]

The deal with Iran without Congressional approval
DACA
both grounds for impeachment.

So no president ever signs agreements with other nations without congressional approval?

Did "W" get congress to vote on his SOFA deal with Iraq?

 

[middleview]

He's the attorney representing the DNC stooge on whom you're currently hanging your entire attempt to overthrow the government! LOL, what a bunch of idiots.

Trump's version of the phone call backs up what the whistle blower said.

 

[middleview]

You mean when the house leader said they wouldn't impeach ? What planet do you live on?

https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/29/politics/boehner-obama-impeachment/index.html

57% of republicans and prominent political leaders of your party called for impeachment, according to your link.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

Trump's version of the phone call backs up what the whistle blower said.

Yet DemocRATS still do nothing.

 

[Deleted member 21794]

57% of republicans and prominent political leaders of your party called for impeachment, according to your link.

Your dodge is noted. And of course it's not news the establishment hates Trump. That tells many normal Americans he is the person for the job. But alas, leftists prefer the status quo.

 

[middleview]

Hard to believe some of the dumber Democrats here still lie and deny it when I say they're trying to overthrow the government.

So an overthrow of the government is what republicans had in mind when they spent $60 million investigating and then impeaching Clinton?

 

[middleview]

Your dodge is noted. And of course it's not news the establishment hates Trump. That tells many normal Americans he is the person for the job. But alas, leftists prefer the status quo.

That was people calling for Obama to be "over thrown"..