Trump's Ego Wall Crumbles

[Nostra]

My opposite to the wall isn't about hate or fear. My opposition is due to the fact its an ineffective waste of money.

You are wrong again. They are very effective.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma-sector-proves-it-elaine-duke-column/586853001/

 

[PhilFish]

True. But when the primary focus of your entire campaign is the wall, that is a whole new level. His supports were chanting "build that wall", not "fix that wall" or "slightly enhance the wall that is currently there".

i think there was other focus. but point taken

then again, as others cited it takes time... or was there an expectation thaat it should be done by now. (particularly in light of the amount of time it takes to build something of that scale..?)

 

[Nostra]

How is the wall an ineffective waste of money?

The wall that is already built hasn't stemmed the flow of people or drugs. There is nothing that leads me to believe a bigger wall would stem the flow of drugs or people. It's just a giant waste of money.

Your story is refuted by the facts.

Oops!

 

[PhilFish]

How is the wall an ineffective waste of money?

The wall that is already built hasn't stemmed the flow of people or drugs. There is nothing that leads me to believe a bigger wall would stem the flow of drugs or people. It's just a giant waste of money.

then why did fear and hate lead to what we have now, that seems to need replacing..

 

[ObamacareForever]

then why did fear and hate lead to what we have now, that seems to need replacing..

Trump is using fear and hate to convince people wasting money is a good idea.

 

[PhilFish]

Trump is using fear and hate to convince people wasting money is a good idea.

how were people convinced preceding trump. given that he is replacing construct already there?

 

[ObamacareForever]

how were people convinced preceding trump. given that he is replacing construct already there?

Stupidity. People want simple solutions for complex problems.

 

[ObamacareForever]

You are wrong again. They are very effective.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma-sector-proves-it-elaine-duke-column/586853001/

Yea, people lie under duress.

 

[PhilFish]

Stupidity. People want simple solutions for complex problems.

so obamas approvals for border barriers were due to his selling fear and hate? stupidity? or both?

 

[ObamacareForever]

so obamas approvals for border barriers were due to his selling fear and hate? stupidity? or both?

Yep, and we learned lessons from Obama about not wasting money. So we aren't going to build something that doesn't work.

 

[now_what]

i think there was other focus. but point taken

then again, as others cited it takes time... or was there an expectation thaat it should be done by now. (particularly in light of the amount of time it takes to build something of that scale..?)

There were other points, but I saw this as the number one issue of his campaign. That, repealing and replacing Obamacare and cutting taxes I would think would round out the top 3. I bet it's documented somewhere.

I never had anything to say about the timeliness of the wall being built. I believe that anything overly done for symbolic purposes will be destroyed in the future. But I'm only guessing.

 

[Bear Claw]

how so, it's not built yet

Never will be!!

 

[PhilFish]

Yep, and we learned lessons from Obama about not wasting money. So we aren't going to build something that doesn't work.

i know, and seemingly we are applying something more substantive

 

[PhilFish]

Never will be!!

potentially. time will tell

 

[now_what]

You are wrong again. They are very effective.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma-sector-proves-it-elaine-duke-column/586853001/

Thank you for posting this opinion piece to confirm your fact. ; )

 

[Nostra]

Yea, people lie under duress.

We don't care about your motivation here.

 

[Nostra]

Thank you for posting this opinion piece to confirm your fact. ; )

The numbers are the numbers. I note you can't debunk any of the numbers in the link.

 

[Nostra]

Never will be!!

Miles and miles already being built.

 

[ObamacareForever]

We don't care about your motivation here.

I am talking about Elaine Duke. Nobody trusts Trump officials to tell the truth. If they go off-brand then they get fired. Trump doesn't make credibility central to his administration.

 

[Bear Claw]

potentially. time will tell

Time is running out!


Only 14 months till election .

Can he get the wall built in that timeframe??

NO!!