Point of origin in Ferguson fallout.

[PhilFish]

We would not be discussing the tragic loss of life and resulting devastation if...

Wilson had let the two individuals go on their way in the middle of the street?

The police did not canvas the area for strong arm robbers?

Brown had not taken cigarillos which were not his to have, other than by purchase?

 

[MrMike]

It started right here...the rest is just noise and excuses

 

[Sunset Rose]

We would not be discussing the tragic loss of life and resulting devastation if...

Wilson had let the two individuals go on their way in the middle of the street?

The police did not canvas the area for strong arm robbers?

Brown had not taken cigarillos which were not his to have, other than by purchase?

I bet Officer Wilson would opt for the first scenario.

 

[marvin martian]

I bet Officer Wilson would opt for the first scenario.

He would have been derelicting his duty as a police officer if he had...and he didn't opt for that scenario. He opted for the scenario where he did his job.

If a cop sees two men who fit the description of strong-arm robbers and he lets them walk away, he's not doing his job...

 

[PhilFish]

I bet Officer Wilson would opt for the first scenario.

i dont follow. preference would be for the officer not to stop individuals fitting the description of the persons having just committed the strongarm robbery?

 

[Sunset Rose]

i dont follow. preference would be for the officer not to stop individuals fitting the description of the persons having just committed the strongarm robbery?

If you were to ask Officer Wilson TODAY what he wishes he would have done, I'm sure he would say, to leave them alone.

 

[marvin martian]

If you were to ask Officer Wilson TODAY what he wishes he would have done, I'm sure he would say, to leave them alone.

Actually, he maintains that he did his job, which he did, according to the grand jury and the prosecutor in the case. He may regret the outcome, as he should whenever a loss of life takes place, but part of being a responsible human being is accepting the consequences of your decisions.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If you were to ask Officer Wilson TODAY what he wishes he would have done, I'm sure he would say, to leave them alone.

Yes, just like a victim of Mob extortion, beaten and robbed in a back alley, wishes he would have just paid the ransom.

What pure ideals we're promoting here.

 

[Sunset Rose]

He would have been derelicting his duty as a police officer if he had...and he didn't opt for that scenario. He opted for the scenario where he did his job.

If a cop sees two men who fit the description of strong-arm robbers and he lets them walk away, he's not doing his job...

I've heard two conflicting stories about this. One story says Officer Wilson did not know about the conveince store robbery. Another story says that he did. If he really did know about the robbery, he would have been better off waiting for his back-up since there were 2 of them. Do you agree?

 

[as seen on tv]

my understanding is that wilson had not yet received a radio alert about the robbery when he told michael and accomplice to move to the sidewalk.

there was pot in michael's blood when he was shot. this may have contributed to the robbery (the swisher sweets are an essential component if you plan to manufacture more blunts), but its uncertain whether the drug also impaired his judgement, causing him to charge officer wilson.

if you read brown's "rap lyrics" any notion that this guy was a happy go lucky gentle giant are completely demolished. he was a woman-dissing, authority hating gangsta/poser. and his assault on wilson was possible a case of drug induced confusion between the reality of how you behave in civilized society, and his fantasy personality. i mean, how can you keep putting up gangsta/rap videos if you actually move to the sidewalk when instructed to do so by a police officer? your street cred is completely demolished.

 

[PhilFish]

If you were to ask Officer Wilson TODAY what he wishes he would have done, I'm sure he would say, to leave them alone.

http://mic.com/articles/105128/darren-wilson-speaks-for-the-first-time-and-he-has-no-regrets

last lines indicate he felt he did his job.

 

[marvin martian]

I've heard two conflicting stories about this. One story says Officer Wilson did not know about the conveince store robbery. Another story says that he did. If he really did know about the robbery, he would have been better off waiting for his back-up since there were 2 of them. Do you agree?

I don't know what Ferguson PD department policy is on backup, so I can't comment on that. I know in some departments officers are not required to call for backup if they feel they can handle the situation. In other departments, officers are always in pairs on patrol (which wasn't the case here).

Of course, the evidence in the case showed that Brown went in the window of Wilson's vehicle and assaulted him, so obviously by that point any option of waiting for backup was no longer an option, if Wilson had an intention of performing his duty as an officer.

 

[Sunset Rose]

http://mic.com/articles/105128/darren-wilson-speaks-for-the-first-time-and-he-has-no-regrets

last lines indicate he felt he did his job.

Officer Wilson said in this article that "there was a barrage of him hitting me for about 10 seconds". REALLY? Two blinks of your eye is 10 seconds! I guess Mike didn't hit him very many times. Just saying. Yes, I noticed that he doesn't have any remorse.

 

[PhilFish]

Officer Wilson said in this article that "there was a barrage of him hitting me for about 10 seconds". REALLY? Two blinks of your eye is 10 seconds! I guess Mike didn't hit him very many times. Just saying. Yes, I noticed that he doesn't have any remorse.

i'm still not sure your point? do there need to be gradations beyond his being in the window of the police car?

 

[Sunset Rose]

i'm still not sure your point? do there need to be gradations beyond his being in the window of the police car?

My point is that Officer Wilson wasn't hurt as bad as he said he was. I believe Micheal Brown was surrendering when Officer Wilson shot him. If believe Officer Wilson is lying about how afraid he was; if he was that scary he should have never been a police officer. Officer Wilson was angry that this young, Black kid disobeyed him and over powered him. He wasn't going to let him get away with it.
Those are my thoughts. Thank you.

 

[PhilFish]

My point is that Officer Wilson wasn't hurt as bad as he said he was. I believe Micheal Brown was surrendering when Officer Wilson shot him. If believe Officer Wilson is lying about how afraid he was; if he was that scary he should have never been a police officer. Officer Wilson was angry that this young, Black kid disobeyed him and over powered him. He wasn't going to let him get away with it.
Those are my thoughts. Thank you.

that is one way to recount it.
though neither of us were there to know for sure
but we can read the testimony and the varied witness accounts.
the overarching conclusion is that Brown was not. (surrendering)

this is not to say that the outcome is any less unfortunate or tragic.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

We would not be discussing the tragic loss of life and resulting devastation if...

Wilson had let the two individuals go on their way in the middle of the street?

The police did not canvas the area for strong arm robbers?

Brown had not taken cigarillos which were not his to have, other than by purchase?

Perhaps Wilson did enforce the jaywalking laws a little too harshly, no?

 

[PhilFish]

Perhaps Wilson did enforce the jaywalking laws a little too harshly, no?

?

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

?

Indeed.

 

[marvin martian]

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Wilson Derangement Syndrome. Bugs is particularly susceptible, as are all Sharpton disciples...