"Community of Nations"

[Jen]

What's that?

Steve Kroft: I want us to take some of these things one by one. You mentioned an awful lot of things. One, the situation with ISIS, you've managed to achieve a stalemate. So what's going to happen to ISIS?

President Barack Obama: Well, over time--

Steve Kroft: I mean, they have to be-- somebody has to take them on. I mean, what's going on right now is not working. I mean, they are still occupying big chunks of Iraq. They're still occupying a good chunk of Syria. Who's going to get rid of them?

President Barack Obama: Over time, the community of nations will all get rid of them, and we will be leading getting rid of them. But we are not going to be able to get rid of them unless there is an environment inside of Syria and in portions of Iraq in which local populations, local Sunni populations, are working in a concerted way with us to get rid of them.

Oh well GOOD then. That "community of nations", whatever that is, will get rid of ISIS.
But since there is no such thing as a "community of nations", don't expect it to be done in your lifetime.

LINK

 

[Charcat]

What's that?

Steve Kroft: I want us to take some of these things one by one. You mentioned an awful lot of things. One, the situation with ISIS, you've managed to achieve a stalemate. So what's going to happen to ISIS?

President Barack Obama: Well, over time--

Steve Kroft: I mean, they have to be-- somebody has to take them on. I mean, what's going on right now is not working. I mean, they are still occupying big chunks of Iraq. They're still occupying a good chunk of Syria. Who's going to get rid of them?

President Barack Obama: Over time, the community of nations will all get rid of them, and we will be leading getting rid of them. But we are not going to be able to get rid of them unless there is an environment inside of Syria and in portions of Iraq in which local populations, local Sunni populations, are working in a concerted way with us to get rid of them.

Oh well GOOD then. That "community of nations", whatever that is, will get rid of ISIS.
But since there is no such thing as a "community of nations", don't expect it to be done in your lifetime.

LINK

Interesting, Jen...it must be a new progressive mantra, or they're slowly leaking their agenda.

"The current president's U.N. ambassador, Susan Rice, was on Sunday television recently explaining why she thinks Iran, now several decades into its pursuit of nuclear weapons and close to consummation, might succumb to the siren song of sweet reason and retreat from success. Doing so, she said, would enable Iran "to be a responsible member of the international community"—perhaps not the highest priority for a regime that denies the Holocaust happened, and vows to complete it—and "enter the community of nations."
http://www.newsweek.com/will-there-community-nations-77409

 

[Jen]

Interesting, Jen...it must be a new progressive mantra, or they're slowly leaking their agenda.

"The current president's U.N. ambassador, Susan Rice, was on Sunday television recently explaining why she thinks Iran, now several decades into its pursuit of nuclear weapons and close to consummation, might succumb to the siren song of sweet reason and retreat from success. Doing so, she said, would enable Iran "to be a responsible member of the international community"—perhaps not the highest priority for a regime that denies the Holocaust happened, and vows to complete it—and "enter the community of nations."
http://www.newsweek.com/will-there-community-nations-77409

Yep. Must be progressive dope.

 

[Zam-Zam]

What's that?

Steve Kroft: I want us to take some of these things one by one. You mentioned an awful lot of things. One, the situation with ISIS, you've managed to achieve a stalemate. So what's going to happen to ISIS?

President Barack Obama: Well, over time--

Steve Kroft: I mean, they have to be-- somebody has to take them on. I mean, what's going on right now is not working. I mean, they are still occupying big chunks of Iraq. They're still occupying a good chunk of Syria. Who's going to get rid of them?

President Barack Obama: Over time, the community of nations will all get rid of them, and we will be leading getting rid of them. But we are not going to be able to get rid of them unless there is an environment inside of Syria and in portions of Iraq in which local populations, local Sunni populations, are working in a concerted way with us to get rid of them.

Oh well GOOD then. That "community of nations", whatever that is, will get rid of ISIS.
But since there is no such thing as a "community of nations", don't expect it to be done in your lifetime.

LINK

I'm confident that at the last possible moment, they will swoop in and save the day. At the moment, they are far too busy tending to their unicorns.

Odd to think the President's ME foreign policy depends largely on the strategic deployment of fairy dust......


"There's trouble afoot. Quick, somebody call the Community of Nations!"

 

[JackDallas]

What's that?

Steve Kroft: I want us to take some of these things one by one. You mentioned an awful lot of things. One, the situation with ISIS, you've managed to achieve a stalemate. So what's going to happen to ISIS?

President Barack Obama: Well, over time--

Steve Kroft: I mean, they have to be-- somebody has to take them on. I mean, what's going on right now is not working. I mean, they are still occupying big chunks of Iraq. They're still occupying a good chunk of Syria. Who's going to get rid of them?

President Barack Obama: Over time, the community of nations will all get rid of them, and we will be leading getting rid of them. But we are not going to be able to get rid of them unless there is an environment inside of Syria and in portions of Iraq in which local populations, local Sunni populations, are working in a concerted way with us to get rid of them.

Oh well GOOD then. That "community of nations", whatever that is, will get rid of ISIS.
But since there is no such thing as a "community of nations", don't expect it to be done in your lifetime.

LINK

I think it's pretty clear now (clear enough that even the most ardent Obama nut-licker can no longer deny) that Barack Obama is not only a pathological liar but is also delusional and is almost certainly certifiably insane. He should be examined to establish that he is not fit to serve in the office he holds. The man lives in a world that simply does not exist.

 

[Zam-Zam]

"We're saved! It's the Community of Nations!!!"

 

[American Patriot]

I think it's pretty clear now (clear enough that even the most ardent Obama nut-licker can no longer deny) that Barack Obama is not only a pathological liar but is also delusional and is almost certainly certifiably insane. He should be examined to establish that he is not fit to serve in the office he holds. The man lives in a world that simply does not exist.

Obama has been doing this Kabookie dance since he was elected. What he has actually done is put our nation at tremendous risk with his so called Iran deal and he has absolutely no plan or stratagy to deal with Isis or terror for that matter. Obama seems to exist in a make believe pretend world that is non existant. His political agendas are so out of touch and delusional that even like minded Democrats now question his lack of leadership. I mean when we all look at what Obama gas actually done since being elected we come away with a sick sinking feeling of complete and utter failure on every level. I love my country but I must admit that I dislike Obama and his administration.

 

[Max R.]

What's that?

Steve Kroft: I want us to take some of these things one by one. You mentioned an awful lot of things. One, the situation with ISIS, you've managed to achieve a stalemate. So what's going to happen to ISIS?

President Barack Obama: Well, over time--

Steve Kroft: I mean, they have to be-- somebody has to take them on. I mean, what's going on right now is not working. I mean, they are still occupying big chunks of Iraq. They're still occupying a good chunk of Syria. Who's going to get rid of them?

President Barack Obama: Over time, the community of nations will all get rid of them, and we will be leading getting rid of them. But we are not going to be able to get rid of them unless there is an environment inside of Syria and in portions of Iraq in which local populations, local Sunni populations, are working in a concerted way with us to get rid of them.

Oh well GOOD then. That "community of nations", whatever that is, will get rid of ISIS.
But since there is no such thing as a "community of nations", don't expect it to be done in your lifetime.

LINK

It's the politically correct version of "Coalition of Nations". You know, the warmer, fuzzier version.

http://www.state.gov/p/io/potusunga/207564.htm
....The regime of Saddam Hussein cultivated ties to terror while it built weapons of mass destruction. It used those weapons in acts of mass murder and refused to account for them when confronted by the world. The Security Council was right to be alarmed. The Security Council was right to demand that Iraq destroy its illegal weapons and prove that it had done so. The Security Council was right to vow serious consequences if Iraq refused to comply. And because there were consequences, because a coalition of nations acted to defend the peace and the credibility of the United Nations, Iraq is free, and today we are joined by representatives of a liberated country.....

Regardless of verbiage or labels, it's about frickin' time our allies started acting like allies and carried their own weight instead of standing around waiting for the US to do the dirty work saving their asses.

Example:

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

It's the politically correct version of "Coalition of Nations". You know, the warmer, fuzzier version.

http://www.state.gov/p/io/potusunga/207564.htm
....The regime of Saddam Hussein cultivated ties to terror while it built weapons of mass destruction. It used those weapons in acts of mass murder and refused to account for them when confronted by the world. The Security Council was right to be alarmed. The Security Council was right to demand that Iraq destroy its illegal weapons and prove that it had done so. The Security Council was right to vow serious consequences if Iraq refused to comply. And because there were consequences, because a coalition of nations acted to defend the peace and the credibility of the United Nations, Iraq is free, and today we are joined by representatives of a liberated country.....

Regardless of verbiage or labels, it's about frickin' time our allies started acting like allies and carried their own weight instead of standing around waiting for the US to do the dirty work saving their asses.

Example:

You mean George W. Bush actually used the phrase 'community of nations'?!?? I'm SHOCKED!!!

And I'm sure Jen is, too. You just made mincemeat out of her top post. Wasn't very nice of you.....

 

[Max R.]

You mean George W. Bush actually used the phrase 'community of nations'?!?? I'm SHOCKED!!!

And I'm sure Jen is, too. You just made mincemeat out of her top post. Wasn't very nice of you.....

Incorrect. He said "coalition of nations". A slight, but significant difference as I alluded earlier.

That said, I still support the idea we're a global economy with global alliances. A fact that separates me from the Libertarian party line.

Again, I have no problem with neither a "coalition of nations" nor a "community of nations". All I care about is that our "allies" carry their own weight by shedding their own blood and spending their own treasure defending the global economy and protecting global security instead of always relying upon the US to cover their asses.

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Incorrect. He said "coalition of nations". A slight, but significant difference as I alluded earlier.

That said, I still support the idea we're a global economy with global alliances. A fact that separates me from the Libertarian party line.

Again, I have no problem with neither a "coalition of nations" nor a "community of nations". All I care about is that our "allies" carry their own weight by shedding their own blood and spending their own treasure defending the global economy and protecting global security instead of always relying upon the US to cover their asses.

You're correct that he used the phrase 'coalition of nations' rather than 'community of nations'. I did miss that; I confess. However, to me, the difference is largely semantic rather than significant. I have no disagreement with your final paragraph; our allies should indeed be carrying more of their own weight....

 

[Zam-Zam]

Can anyone provide any evidence that the "Community of Nations" is coming to straighten out the mess in Syria? If it was in the news, I must have missed it.

 

[Max R.]

You're correct that he used the phrase 'coalition of nations' rather than 'community of nations'. I did miss that; I confess. However, to me, the difference is largely semantic rather than significant. I have no disagreement with your final paragraph; our allies should indeed be carrying more of their own weight....

Disagreed. There's a definite difference, but I agree the results are often headed for the same direction mentioned earlier.

Community connotes group hugs, kumbaya and "it takes a village". Coalition connotes "You're either with us or against us". One is definitely warmer and fuzzier than the other.

com·mu·ni·ty
kəˈmyo͞onədē/
noun

1. 1.
   a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.
   "Rhode Island's Japanese community"
   synonyms: group, body, set, circle, clique, faction; More
2. 2.
   a feeling of fellowship with others, as a result of sharing common attitudes, interests, and goals.
   "the sense of community that organized religion can provide

1. co·a·li·tion
   ˌkōəˈliSH(ə)n/
   noun
   

   1. an alliance for combined action, especially a temporary alliance of political parties forming a government or of states.
      "a coalition of conservatives and disaffected Democrats"
      synonyms: alliance, union, partnership, bloc, caucus;

 

[LeRoy_Was_Here]

Disagreed. There's a definite difference, but I agree the results are often headed for the same direction mentioned earlier.

Community connotes group hugs, kumbaya and "it takes a village". Coalition connotes "You're either with us or against us". One is definitely warmer and fuzzier than the other.

Fair enough. I'll grant you your point on this. At the very least, I don't think it is worth an extended argument.

 

[Jen]

I think it's pretty clear now (clear enough that even the most ardent Obama nut-licker can no longer deny) that Barack Obama is not only a pathological liar but is also delusional and is almost certainly certifiably insane. He should be examined to establish that he is not fit to serve in the office he holds. The man lives in a world that simply does not exist.

Insane? Maybe.
Certifiable? Doubtful.
If there is no one in the Justice department willing to acknowledge that Hillary has committed crimes when it is obvious to anyone with even minimal brain activity that she has, then it is certain that no one with an ability to certify someone as insane will be willing to certify that Obama is insane.

One thing for certain though: Obama is not fit to be president.

 

[Jen]

It's the politically correct version of "Coalition of Nations". You know, the warmer, fuzzier version.

http://www.state.gov/p/io/potusunga/207564.htm
....The regime of Saddam Hussein cultivated ties to terror while it built weapons of mass destruction. It used those weapons in acts of mass murder and refused to account for them when confronted by the world. The Security Council was right to be alarmed. The Security Council was right to demand that Iraq destroy its illegal weapons and prove that it had done so. The Security Council was right to vow serious consequences if Iraq refused to comply. And because there were consequences, because a coalition of nations acted to defend the peace and the credibility of the United Nations, Iraq is free, and today we are joined by representatives of a liberated country.....

Regardless of verbiage or labels, it's about frickin' time our allies started acting like allies and carried their own weight instead of standing around waiting for the US to do the dirty work saving their asses.

Example:

Fine. But "coalition of nations" is just as much a fantasy as "community of nations".

 

[Max R.]

Fair enough. I'll grant you your point on this. At the very least, I don't think it is worth an extended argument.

Agreed. I do think we are agreed that ours is a global economy therefore requiring we work closely with our allies out of self-interest.

 

[Jen]

Can anyone provide any evidence that the "Community of Nations" is coming to straighten out the mess in Syria? If it was in the news, I must have missed it.

There is no "community of nations" as far as I know. Letting Obama off his leash (teleprompter) is a huge mistake.

 

[Max R.]

Fine. But "coalition of nations" is just as much a fantasy as "community of nations".

Disagreed. As mentioned previously, ours is a global economy. If we cut off all trade ties with other nations and pulled our military back to our own shores, our economy would collapse to a level somewhere around pre-Civil War levels.

On a related note, I saw a US flag sticker recently on a Hummer that said "Don't put this flag on a foreign car". It showed the ignorance of the owner since 14% of it is foreign made. About the same as a Toyota Sienna and Dodge Viper.

The fact remains we can't turn back the global economic clock any more than tree huggers can turn back the same clock to where most Americans lived off their own land.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-03-21-car-content-chart_N.htm

 

[Max R.]

Can anyone provide any evidence that the "Community of Nations" is coming to straighten out the mess in Syria? If it was in the news, I must have missed it.

The comment certainly deals with the instability of the ME with Russia stepping into a vacuum left by the US in the region. ISIS and Iran are both growing in power while the US is receding.