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Trump - ideas on immigration are like from outer space, or somethin..

PhilFish

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ld-trump-terrorism-speech-20160815-story.html

I dunno, maybe this guy is batshit crazy...

secure the borders
monitor suspected terrorist activity
act on leads
vet immigrants from nations linked to terror.



Is this some crazy shit, or what?

kind of like taking actions in a crime ridden neignborhood..

do i lock my door?
scrutinize unknowns at my door?
react to threats to me or my family?
be wary of my safety? m family's safety?

crazy.. just crazy..
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ld-trump-terrorism-speech-20160815-story.html

I dunno, maybe this guy is batshit crazy...

secure the borders
monitor suspected terrorist activity
act on leads
vet immigrants from nations linked to terror.



Is this some crazy shit, or what?

kind of like taking actions in a crime ridden neignborhood..

do i lock my door?
scrutinize unknowns at my door?
react to threats to me or my family?
be wary of my safety? m family's safety?

crazy.. just crazy..
Are you considering putting a moratorium on any Muslims entering your house? Remember, Trump has openly called for such religious discrimination.

Also, just a reminder of what it would mean to suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States. That could mean no immigration from Canada, for starters:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/trail/etc/canada.html

And England:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid

And Germany:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-germany-militant-idUSKBN0TS28H20151209

And Jamaica:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Boyd_Malvo

That's in addition to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Lebanon, etc. There's probably a history of terrorism against the US in most major countries.
 
according to various pundits, "appropriate vetting" of those from extremist countries is ALREADY taking place.

I pose the following question to both those pundits and trump:

how do you "vet" someone with no birth certificate or other identification papers?
 
Trump's immigration policy is actually brilliant!

Imagine choosing immigrants based on their willingness to assimilate and (gasp) pull their weight???

Of course, it sort of calls into question the progressive immigration policy of seeking the most needy, the least willing to assimilate, and then requiring nothing of them at all once they are here. It almost seems like a policy designed to destroy America. OMG, do ya think maybe that's actually what they want???
 
Are you considering putting a moratorium on any Muslims entering your house? Remember, Trump has openly called for such religious discrimination.

Also, just a reminder of what it would mean to suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States. That could mean no immigration from Canada, for starters:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/trail/etc/canada.html

And England:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid

And Germany:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-germany-militant-idUSKBN0TS28H20151209

And Jamaica:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Boyd_Malvo

That's in addition to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Lebanon, etc. There's probably a history of terrorism against the US in most major countries.

a moratorium? no. odd question.
 
Are you considering putting a moratorium on any Muslims entering your house? Remember, Trump has openly called for such religious discrimination.

Also, just a reminder of what it would mean to suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States. That could mean no immigration from Canada, for starters:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/trail/etc/canada.html

And England:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid

And Germany:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-germany-militant-idUSKBN0TS28H20151209

And Jamaica:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Boyd_Malvo

That's in addition to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Lebanon, etc. There's probably a history of terrorism against the US in most major countries.

Maybe you'd like these Muslims to come for a visit at your house:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...y-from-main-roads-as-migrants-smash-vehicles/

I'd pay for a seat to watch that...
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ld-trump-terrorism-speech-20160815-story.html

I dunno, maybe this guy is batshit crazy...

secure the borders
monitor suspected terrorist activity
act on leads
vet immigrants from nations linked to terror.



Is this some crazy shit, or what?

kind of like taking actions in a crime ridden neignborhood..

do i lock my door?
scrutinize unknowns at my door?
react to threats to me or my family?
be wary of my safety? m family's safety?

crazy.. just crazy..

These were the mainstream positions of both major parties barely 25 years ago. It illustrates just how radical, subversive, and dangerous the Democrat party has become in a single generation.
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ld-trump-terrorism-speech-20160815-story.html

I dunno, maybe this guy is batshit crazy...

secure the borders
monitor suspected terrorist activity
act on leads
vet immigrants from nations linked to terror.



Is this some crazy shit, or what?

kind of like taking actions in a crime ridden neignborhood..

do i lock my door?
scrutinize unknowns at my door?
react to threats to me or my family?
be wary of my safety? m family's safety?

crazy.. just crazy..
Yep. Next thing you know, he'll want to issue free weapons to our military. Whatzzzz he thinking?
 
Are you considering putting a moratorium on any Muslims entering your house? Remember, Trump has openly called for such religious discrimination.

Also, just a reminder of what it would mean to suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States. That could mean no immigration from Canada, for starters:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/trail/etc/canada.html

And England:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid

And Germany:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-germany-militant-idUSKBN0TS28H20151209

And Jamaica:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Boyd_Malvo

That's in addition to Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Lebanon, etc. There's probably a history of terrorism against the US in most major countries.
Sounds good to me
 
Trump's immigration policy is actually brilliant!

Imagine choosing immigrants based on their willingness to assimilate and (gasp) pull their weight???

Of course, it sort of calls into question the progressive immigration policy of seeking the most needy, the least willing to assimilate, and then requiring nothing of them at all once they are here. It almost seems like a policy designed to destroy America. OMG, do ya think maybe that's actually what they want???
Oh, they require something from them. They require them to register to vote as dems.
 
according to various pundits, "appropriate vetting" of those from extremist countries is ALREADY taking place.

I pose the following question to both those pundits and trump:

how do you "vet" someone with no birth certificate or other identification papers?

That WOULD be difficult.

I suppose we could start by;

Requiring them to attend Jewish and Christian services to see if they can actually be accepting of other religions.

Insisting they cook for, serve, cater gay weddings to find out if they can be trusted to not run off and shoot a bunch of our homosexual citizens.

Requiring them to spend their first few weeks eating bacon for breakfast, ham at lunch and pickled pigs feet for dinner.

Making them live in dorms, shower in the same stall and sleep in the same beds with others of the same sex and watch gay midget porn at night while they are being processed.

Things like that might help....... There has to be a way...
 
Trump's immigration policy is actually brilliant!

Imagine choosing immigrants based on their willingness to assimilate and (gasp) pull their weight???

Of course, it sort of calls into question the progressive immigration policy of seeking the most needy, the least willing to assimilate, and then requiring nothing of them at all once they are here. It almost seems like a policy designed to destroy America. OMG, do ya think maybe that's actually what they want???

In the last 25 years or so, the progressive left have been disappointed at the rate at which they have been impoverishing Americans, so they stepped up their efforts to import more poverty. Hence the focus on bringing in the poorest, least educated, most unlikely to assimilate, prosper, or produce anything other than more people.
 
Sounds good to me
Doing that would shut the US off from the global economy, causing us to lose our position of leadership in it, and greatly impoverishing our people. We'd also soon lose our position as a cultural, academic, and scientific center.
 
Trump's immigration policy is actually brilliant!

Imagine choosing immigrants based on their willingness to assimilate and (gasp) pull their weight???

Of course, it sort of calls into question the progressive immigration policy of seeking the most needy, the least willing to assimilate, and then requiring nothing of them at all once they are here. It almost seems like a policy designed to destroy America. OMG, do ya think maybe that's actually what they want???
Midases Muffling Class Mobility

Immigration is a demand by the native countries' governments that run sweatshops for the outsourcing "American" companies. Under orders from the transnationals, "our" government gives a delayed-payments loan to select foreigners to open small businesses in the formerly United States. Another benefit for the plutocracy is that such treason eliminates a way to rise to middle-class status.
 
I judge all people individually, not by faith. I've had Hindus, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Unitarians, Wiccans, atheists and agnostics into my house. I wouldn't want to let someone who smashes vehicles into my house regardless of what faith he professes.

They didn't announce they were coming to smash vehicles when they "knocked on the door" of France. That's the problem with you. You are a smart guy, but you believe you are actually smarter than you in fact are. You believe that nothing can go wrong with properly designed and executed progressive policies, because you can rationalize everyone of them in one of your patented narcissistic navel gazes, despite the mountainous (and mounting) evidence that they are, in fact, destroying every developed nation on the planet that has embraced them.
 
They didn't announce they were coming to smash vehicles when they "knocked on the door" of France. That's the problem with you. You are a smart guy, but you believe you are actually smarter than you in fact are. You believe that nothing can go wrong with properly designed and executed progressive policies, because you can rationalize everyone of them in one of your patented narcissistic navel gazes, despite the mountainous (and mounting) evidence that they are, in fact, destroying every developed nation on the planet that has embraced them.
No. I accept that things will go wrong with any system and all we can do is design systems where the probabilities work out so that good things are happening as much more often than bad as practicable. I accept that taking in refugees, whether from the potato famine or the holocaust or Vietnam or Cuba or the Syrian Civil War will mean some of the refugees will do bad things. But if we implement it well, we'll save a lot more lives than are lost and ultimately mankind will be better off.
 
No. I accept that things will go wrong with any system and all we can do is design systems where the probabilities work out so that good things are happening as much more often than bad as practicable. I accept that taking in refugees, whether from the potato famine or the holocaust or Vietnam or Cuba or the Syrian Civil War will mean some of the refugees will do bad things. But if we implement it well, we'll save a lot more lives than are lost and ultimately mankind will be better off.

Like I said...thanks for confirming I have you pegged. Ultimately "mankind" will NOT be "better off." Demonstrably so. Every EU country is a quagmire of bad progressive policies, that is destroying the social and economic fabric of these long standing democracies. The EU is in full on implosion, fiscally, socially, and culturally!!! The progressives have been running the place for most of the past century and they are imploding under sclerotic economic growth, overly bureaucratic institutions, burgeoning government debt and unchecked immigration.

So how do you go about "designing" a progressive "system where the probabilities work?" By simply pointing to Scandinavia and suggesting that since it works so well there it will work the same everywhere. WTF? Can't you see???? It doesn't work anywhere but there!!! That should be your first clue that there's more to this than you are suggesting.

The reason it appears to have worked there is because of their homogeneous and high achieving populations. And, as I have demonstrated to you already (and you, in your typical narcissistic fashion, completely ignored) the Scandinavians who have come to America are, on average, doing better than those who remained in these socialist "paradises." So this stands as proof that these policies drive DOWN achievement, rather than improving it. So everyone is relatively worse off, albeit more equally so. Even in Scandinavia!!!!

And the fact is that when you apply the Scandinavian model in places where there are different demographics, indeed, as the demographics of the Scandinavian nations change, we can see the results getting worser and worser (always and everywhere). Yet you, in your "infinite wisdom," can "imagine" a socialist paradise where everyone is above average, so you cling to your failed ideology like Ahab to his dream of revenge on Moby Dick. You might be intelligent, but I would suggest you are also mentally deranged. Like the sick Captain Ahab you can't see that you are hitching us to this dream society of yours that is dragging us all to our doom. Whatever...
 
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