Despite what liberals are trying to sell us, the bitter truth is simply that

[Barbella]

Obamacare's heavy-handed regulation of the health insurance market has made coverage either unaffordable or unattractive for many.

Indeed, premiums on HealthCare.gov are now 105 percent higher than average individual-market rates from 2013 — before the exchanges opened for business.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/americans-arent-buying-what-obamacare-is-selling/article/2628849

And despite what liberals believe, Americans are smarter than to fall for the lies.

 

[Jen]

Obamacare's heavy-handed regulation of the health insurance market has made coverage either unaffordable or unattractive for many.

Indeed, premiums on HealthCare.gov are now 105 percent higher than average individual-market rates from 2013 — before the exchanges opened for business.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/americans-arent-buying-what-obamacare-is-selling/article/2628849

And despite what liberals believe, Americans are smarter than to fall for the lies.

And the only way to pay for Obamacare is to force people to buy it.

 

[Barbella]

And the only way to pay for Obamacare is to force people to buy it.

And use the penalty to subsidize those who can't afford to buy it....

So we have millions who can't afford it despite working their butts off, paying for millions who do nothing and get it for nothing. Doesn't even make sense to a rational person.

 

[Jen]

And use the penalty to subsidize those who can't afford to buy it....

So we have millions who can't afford it despite working their butts off, paying for millions who do nothing and get it for nothing. Doesn't even make sense to a rational person.

It stinks when a person is forced to buy health care at a high monthly price with deductibles of several thousand dollars.............and that person is insured but cannot go to a doctor because it would be out of pocket and the monthly health care cost takes away any available cash for that.

At the same time, the "poor" now have insurance which they really didn't need because they have always been able to be treated by going to the ER.

Once again the working class has been stiffed. This time by Obamacare.

 

[Barbella]

It stinks when a person is forced to buy health care at a high monthly price with deductibles of several thousand dollars.............and that person is insured but cannot go to a doctor because it would be out of pocket and the monthly health care cost takes away any available cash for that.

At the same time, the "poor" now have insurance which they really didn't need because they have always been able to be treated by going to the ER.

Once again the working class has been stiffed. This time by Obamacare.

Yep. Exactly.

 

[Bugsy McGurk]

Obamacare's heavy-handed regulation of the health insurance market has made coverage either unaffordable or unattractive for many.

Indeed, premiums on HealthCare.gov are now 105 percent higher than average individual-market rates from 2013 — before the exchanges opened for business.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/americans-arent-buying-what-obamacare-is-selling/article/2628849

And despite what liberals believe, Americans are smarter than to fall for the lies.

The GOP has just the "solution" - take away health care coverage from 20+ million people, and take away the ACA protections from everybody.

 

[Barbella]

The GOP has just the "solution" - take away health care coverage from 20+ million people, and take away the ACA protections from everybody.

I said that? Nope. I didn't say anything even close to that. You people need to do something about your delusions...

 

[Spamature]

Obamacare's heavy-handed regulation of the health insurance market has made coverage either unaffordable or unattractive for many.

Indeed, premiums on HealthCare.gov are now 105 percent higher than average individual-market rates from 2013 — before the exchanges opened for business.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/americans-arent-buying-what-obamacare-is-selling/article/2628849

And despite what liberals believe, Americans are smarter than to fall for the lies.

I am willing to bet that most of those policies on the individual market covered a lot less than they do now. 75% of the people that filed bankruptcy did so because of medical bills before the ACA had insurance. It was precisely because of those types of inferior policies.

http://time.com/money/4765443/obamacare-bankruptcy-decline/

Keep pushing for the bad old days and you get more than you bargained for.

 

[Jen]

I said that? Nope. I didn't say anything even close to that. You people need to do something about your delusions...

They would have nothing if not for their delusions.

 

[Barbella]

I am willing to bet that most of those policies on the individual market covered a lot less than they do now. 75% of the people that filed bankruptcy did so because of medical bills before the ACA had insurance. It was precisely because of those types of inferior policies.

http://time.com/money/4765443/obamacare-bankruptcy-decline/

Keep pushing for the bad old days and you get more than you bargained for.

Blah blah blah.... and yet, more and more hard-working middle class people can't afford this affordable health care, are forced to drop out, or decline to sign up in the first place.

Got ANY explanation for THAT?

 

[4/15]

Obamacare's heavy-handed regulation of the health insurance market has made coverage either unaffordable or unattractive for many.

Indeed, premiums on HealthCare.gov are now 105 percent higher than average individual-market rates from 2013 — before the exchanges opened for business.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/americans-arent-buying-what-obamacare-is-selling/article/2628849

And despite what liberals believe, Americans are smarter than to fall for the lies.

Americans proved their ignorance by voting for #45. As for premiums mine haven't hardly changed in 6 years. But then i live in a state that wasn't hesitant to create an exchange like the republican states where the exchanges are unregulated.

 

[Barbella]

Americans proved their ignorance by voting for #45. As for premiums mine haven't hardly changed in 6 years. But then i live in a state that wasn't hesitant to create an exchange like the republican states where the exchanges are unregulated.

Good for you.

 

[Jen]

Blah blah blah.... and yet, more and more hard-working middle class people can't afford this affordable health care, are forced to drop out, or decline to sign up in the first place.

Got ANY explanation for THAT?

Of course they don't.

 

[JuliefromOhio]

The public is against TrumpCare.
The insurance companies and medical associations are against TrumpCare.
The majority of the public wants to keep ObamaCare...and improve it.

That warms the cockles of my Midwestern heart.

THANKS, OBAMA!!

 

[RickWA]

The public is against TrumpCare.
The insurance companies and medical associations are against TrumpCare.
The majority of the public wants to keep ObamaCare...and improve it.

That warms the cockles of my Midwestern heart.

THANKS, OBAMA!!

Yep. Obama was/is in the sack with "the insurance companies".

Those "cockles" cackle, eh?

(Disclaimer: the GOP plan SUXXXX as well).

 

[4/15]

Blah blah blah.... and yet, more and more hard-working middle class people can't afford this affordable health care, are forced to drop out, or decline to sign up in the first place.

Got ANY explanation for THAT?

Post # 11 is your answer.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

I am willing to bet that most of those policies on the individual market covered a lot less than they do now. 75% of the people that filed bankruptcy did so because of medical bills before the ACA had insurance. It was precisely because of those types of inferior policies.

http://time.com/money/4765443/obamacare-bankruptcy-decline/

Keep pushing for the bad old days and you get more than you bargained for.

What would that be? more Democrat seats?

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Americans proved their ignorance by voting for #45. As for premiums mine haven't hardly changed in 6 years. But then i live in a state that wasn't hesitant to create an exchange like the republican states where the exchanges are unregulated.

@SW48 How did obamacare work out for you?

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

Post # 11 is your answer.

Yep, that was your answer. One of the biggest pile of bullshit ever posted in this forum.

 

[Constitutional Sheepdog]

http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/25/2/w74.full
MYTH OF THE HEALTHCARE BANKRUPTCY


Unfortunately, a lot of unrelated trends have whipsawed bankruptcy statistics around over the last decade. First the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 tightened up bankruptcy filing rules, so that a huge number of people rushed to file right before the rules changed, causing a spike in 2005 and an offsetting trough in 2006. Then, just as bankruptcy filings should have been reaching whatever their “natural” post-reform level was, we had the financial crisis. Then we had Obamacare. It’s hard to tease out the effects of one change when so much is happening all at once. It seems likely to me -- indeed, almost certain -- that without Obamacare, the number of bankruptcy filings in 2016 would have been higher than it actually was. I find it difficult to say whether the difference is closer to “major public policy problem” or “a series of unfortunate events.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-17/the-myth-of-the-medical-bankruptcy