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What should victims in SYG states do?

I would think the liberals want them to all give over all their stuff and hope the bullet kills them quick.

But for heaven's sake...don't fight back!

That's unAmerican!
 
I think I have concluded that if I am being followed by a stranger whose intentions are unknown as I return from the store I have to make sure I grab the gun and make sure I am the one who shoots me so I can be declared the dead innocent victim. If the person following me kills me first and I only fight back, some will feel I deserved it so it is imperative I work fast.

Aside from that, I like what Florida is doing in investigating whether SYG is being properly utilized and interpreted. There may be some good applications that can patch the holes if they do exist rather than shelving the entire concept. The idea that an aggressor can stand behind it would be a good example of a flaw.
 
You must die for the cause....after you are dead then you have real proof that your life was indeed in danger. Before that however there will always be doubt.
 
I think this set of laws has sprouted from the irrational judgment of a progressive belief that the offenders have rights equal to those they may prey upon....this is not and should never be true. As a result many a rightful defense has been criminalized and castigated over the years as anything but rightful up to and including racist, dysfunctional and murderous.
 
interesting. perhaps self limiting... but..not without merit. let me know how it goes.. :)
 
No, no, no.... it's perfectly OK to fight back and even used deadly force....

as long as the person trying to rob or kill you isn't black.

You guys need to study up on the leftie rules!

Corruptbuddha said:
I would think the liberals want them to all give over all their stuff and hope the bullet kills them quick.

But for heaven's sake...don't fight back!

That's unAmerican!
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Lapcat said:
No, no, no.... it's perfectly OK to fight back and even used deadly force....

as long as the person trying to rob or kill you isn't black.

You guys need to study up on the leftie rules!
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Oh that's right. being black in the USA is such a coddled life. So many white middle class women are lining up to have their skin died black its just astonishing. Heard you are eager for that procedure right???
 
justoffal said:
I think this set of laws has sprouted from the irrational judgment of a progressive belief that the offenders have rights equal to those they may prey upon.
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And since that is a strawman, and itself an irrational statement - what you are saying is that this sprang from irrationality.

As a result many a rightful defense has been criminalized and castigated over the years as anything but rightful up to and including racist, dysfunctional and murderous.
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RIGHT such as the shooting of innocent japanese exchange students asking for directions.

Sorry, there simply is no such case where "many a rightful defense has been criminalized".

Yes many who have used deadly force have been asked to defend that use before a jury ..... AS IT SHOULD BE
Yes many who have CLAIMED "self defense" have been adjudged to have been part of the cause.....AS THEY JURY SAID THEY WERE
Yes many who shot first when other less violent solutions would have also worked have been prosecuted.... AS THEY SHOULD BE IN A CIVIL SOCIETY
 
do you believe it is rational for a perpetrator to retain their rights when engaged in an unlawful act? or are those rights diminished or abrogated all together upon comission?
 
PhilFish said:
do you believe it is rational for a perpetrator to retain their rights when engaged in an unlawful act?
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How do you know the act is "unlawful" until it is adjudicated by a jury of peers as being such?

How does an innocent person (victim) retain any rights if they can arbitrarily be removed WITHOUT DUE PROCESS simply by the CLAIM that what the innocent person did was "unlawful"?
 
Lapcat said:
Well, obviously, they are supposed to allow the thugs to beat them to death. That would be the leftist politically correct thing to do.
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Hmm what part of Self-Defense do you not understand?

What part of "belief" as NOT BEING actual fact do you not understand?

FACTS MATTER
LOGIC MATTERS

got any?
 
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