Medicare for all

[Dawg]

Why do you suppose it is that the countries with socialized medicine DO NOT have "the best health care money can buy?" It is simplistic (and also very leftist, but that is a distinction without a difference) to assume that we can socialize our health care system and still maintain the world's best health care money can buy.

and few here have you expertise on hospitals and healthcare
at 65 they ALL will get their Medicare and watch the cost increase with each COLA

they must need Medicare due to their doctors not accepting Medicaid
if only leftist males could really be birthers

BTW: they will learn Medicare doesn't shorten appointment waits, if ALL have it they will incur Much longer waits..........4 to 6 months waits appear the norm today,,,,,,,,oh well

 

[georgephillip]

Cost of operating a doctors office

3) if healthcare gets cheaper there will be fewer Doctors

Depending on whether or not single-payer lowers overall costs by cutting waste, grift, and administrative bloat.

 

[Dawg]

Depending on whether or not single-payer lowers overall costs by cutting waste, grift, and administrative bloat.

Will gov paid the staff_______
People still going to get sick and die
with or without Medicare

 

[georgephillip]

I'm actually okay with that, at least Medicare Part A that covers inpatient care. However I harbor no illusion that it will not reduce the quality and availability of our most technologically advanced care, which I consider a good thing.

Then, as with Medicare, let the individuals cover their Parts B and C for outpatient care, Doctor visits and prescriptions, either through private insurance of FQHCs:

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That still leaves the problem of Long Term Care, but reducing access to advanced inpatient care should resolve that the old fashioned way...death.

Let me know if I misunderstood your post by resorting to an anecdotal account of my own first experience Medicare Part B.

Because of my low lifetime earnings I receive SSA and SSI. The latter covers my Part B costs.

The first time I used this coverage was to treat a skin cancer that had been growing on my right temple for 4-5 years.

The dermatologist who made the diagnosis was located in downtown LA; the surgeon he referred me to was located on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.

I was told he was Chief of Staff at UCLA Medical School.

I saw that surgeon over a dozen times.
The actual surgery lasted a total of 3-4 hours.

I paid at total cost of $1.80 for a pain medication.
That is the single-payer model I support

 

[georgephillip]

Will gov paid the staff_______
People still going to get sick and die
with or without Medicare

Universal Medicare could make those people's independent lifetimes far more productive and longer.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

Let me know if I misunderstood your post by resorting to an anecdotal account of my own first experience Medicare Part B.

Because of my low lifetime earnings I receive SSA and SSI. The latter covers my Part B costs.

The first time I used this coverage was to treat a skin cancer that had been growing on my right temple for 4-5 years.

The dermatologist who made the diagnosis was located in downtown LA; the surgeon he referred me to was located on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.

I was told he was Chief of Staff at UCLA Medical School.

I saw that surgeon over a dozen times.
The actual surgery lasted a total of 3-4 hours.

I paid at total cost of $1.80 for a pain medication.
That is the single-payer model I support

Yeah, based on income that would be how it worked. Those with higher earnings would have to pay for their own Part B (as I do for mine now, but it is actually covered by my employer since I am still working full time). Have you ever used a FQHC? People pay there from zero to full charge, based on income/insurance.

 

[Dawg]

Let me know if I misunderstood your post by resorting to an anecdotal account of my own first experience Medicare Part B.

Because of my low lifetime earnings I receive SSA and SSI. The latter covers my Part B costs.

The first time I used this coverage was to treat a skin cancer that had been growing on my right temple for 4-5 years.

The dermatologist who made the diagnosis was located in downtown LA; the surgeon he referred me to was located on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.

I was told he was Chief of Staff at UCLA Medical School.

I saw that surgeon over a dozen times.
The actual surgery lasted a total of 3-4 hours.

I paid at total cost of $1.80 for a pain medication.
That is the single-payer model I support

Example of why other patients and their insurance paid for what you didn't
and why SS is going bust due to Clinton and those as YOU
(my GF's teen nephew got SSI due to being a drug addict)

 

[Raoul_Luke]

and few here have you expertise on hospitals and healthcare
at 65 they ALL will get their Medicare and watch the cost increase with each COLA

they must need Medicare due to their doctors not accepting Medicaid
if only leftist males could really be birthers

BTW: they will learn Medicare doesn't shorten appointment waits, if ALL have it they will incur Much longer waits..........4 to 6 months waits appear the norm today,,,,,,,,oh well

Yeah I'm actually okay with the longer waits. We need more (old) people to die before they need nursing home care.

 

[Dawg]

Universal Medicare could make those people's independent lifetimes far more productive and longer.

Longer to ensure higher income, meanwhile the patient is confined to a bed and can't even wipe their own ass............you call that LIVING!

 

[Dawg]

Yeah I'm actually okay with the longer waits. We need more (old) people to die before they need nursing home care.

I done told'em if they put me in a nursing home I'll come back and haunt'em
take the track hoe, dig a hole and cover me up and tell all that ask that I got on my bike and rode off.

 

[Raoul_Luke]

I done told'em if they put me in a nursing home I'll come back and haunt'em
take the track hoe, dig a hole and cover me up and tell all that ask that I got on my bike and rode off.

Yep I told my son I ain't going into a nursing home. If I end up there and I'm not paralyzed I'll figure out a way to hang myself.

 

[Dawg]

Yep I told my son I ain't going into a nursing home. If I end up there and I'm not paralyzed I'll figure out a way to hang myself.

I understand completely

 

[georgephillip]

Have you ever used a FQHC? People pay there from zero to full charge, based on income/insurance.

There is an Emergency Medical Center located a few blocks from where I live in what had been a fully functional hospital before Private Equity closed it

I have had my primary care and specialists at Keck Medicine of USC since I retired in 2009.
https://keck.usc.edu/

 

[georgephillip]

Longer to ensure higher income, meanwhile the patient is confined to a bed and can't even wipe their own ass............you call that LIVING!

What's your solution for the decades of living that come before nursing homes?

AI Overview:

"Estimates show that medical expenses or illness-related income loss contribute to roughly 530,000 to 550,000 personal bankruptcy filings each year in the United States"

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[TBLee]

Let me know if I misunderstood your post by resorting to an anecdotal account of my own first experience Medicare Part B.

Because of my low lifetime earnings I receive SSA and SSI. The latter covers my Part B costs.

The first time I used this coverage was to treat a skin cancer that had been growing on my right temple for 4-5 years.

The dermatologist who made the diagnosis was located in downtown LA; the surgeon he referred me to was located on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.

I was told he was Chief of Staff at UCLA Medical School.

I saw that surgeon over a dozen times.
The actual surgery lasted a total of 3-4 hours.

I paid at total cost of $1.80 for a pain medication.
That is the single-payer model I support

Why did you receive SSA ad SSi?

 

[TBLee]

Longer to ensure higher income, meanwhile the patient is confined to a bed and can't even wipe their own ass............you call that LIVING!

The sad fact is some don’t care. At all…

 

[TBLee]

Yep I told my son I ain't going into a nursing home. If I end up there and I'm not paralyzed I'll figure out a way to hang myself.

I have to tell you….that is easier said then done. Just my personal perspective on the matter. As a care taker. Of two cherished loved ones

 

[Dawg]

The sad fact is some don’t care. At all…

exactly

 

[Dawg]

What's your solution for the decades of living that come before nursing homes?

AI Overview:

"Estimates show that medical expenses or illness-related income loss contribute to roughly 530,000 to 550,000 personal bankruptcy filings each year in the United States"

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[georgephillip]

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Possibly we could eliminate our carbon footprint by building data centers five stories below ground with nursing homes, solar panels, and windmills on top?